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Barnyard96 said:

They gonna have a boat load of water leaks in Fulton county.


They have to have their mail in ballots and votes counted by 8pm election night. According to newest law Kemp got passed

Idk if any other states have done anything to clean their voting up.

Something needs to be done if Trump wins the election. Republicans need to pass something making states clean their voter's rolls and have counting done by a certain time

It's obvious we cannot rely on states to get it done

As much as Republicans cry about it, they do absolutely nothing. NOTHING in most swing states to stop it.

There also needs to be something saying local judges cannot strike down election rules like they're doing in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The Georgia law that was just passed, if it survives Democrat lawsuits, does it apply already for 2024?
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I don't see how they don't force a slip or fall then pay off his family for him to go to pasture. The socialist regime needs Gavin installed next.

Great summary from VDH today:
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Joe Biden's personal approval rating is at historic lows; almost all his policies do not poll fifty percent. He is behind Trump in almost all the swing states. And now he lies serially even to sympathetic interviewers. In short, finally Biden has been exposed for what he always was and represented.

Senator and Vice President Joe Biden was always sort of a buffoon. He is by nature a grandstander who handsomely profited from his office while posing as good ole Joe from Scranton.

He is a blowhard meddler, one who proverbially has been "wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades (Robert Gates)," from dissenting on the Bin Laden raid to his trisection of Iraq scheme.

He is a fabulist who believes that the more animated he misleads and slurs ("semi-fascists" "fat", "lying dog-faced pony soldier", "chumps", "dregs of society", etc), the more likely he is to get away with it. He is a confessed plagiarist. And he has also invented much of his biography, from would be star, college-scholarship athlete and brilliant law student to semi-truck driver and jailed civil rights activist. His uncle, we are instructed, was eaten by cannibals. Joe assures us that he was the first in his family to go to college.

And he is a racist with a repertory of racial taunts and smears unrivaled among modern politicians ("junkie", "boy", "you ain't black", "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy", "put y'all back in chains", the Corn Pop and golden-leg hairs sagas, the "racial jungle" memes, the strange brag about Delaware as a "slave state" (e.g., "You don't know my state. My state was a slave state. My state is a border state."), and his encomia for the old Democratic racists of the Senate from former Klansman Robert Byrd (Biden's self-described "mentor" and "guide") to segregationist James Eastland ("never called me boy").

Biden has always had a mean streak that explains why for years he lied about the tragic, fatal auto accident of his first wife and child, using it to libel the truck driver, who was neither drunk nor culpable but smeared publicly for years by Biden as intoxicated and guilty. For years he ignored the pleas of the trucker's family to please stop libeling an innocent driver.

Biden just told his greatest whopper that inflation was at 9 percent (actually 1.4 percent) when he took office and yet soon spiked to 9 percent due to his reckless deficit spending and money printing spree.

But recently Biden has reached a nadir and even the Left is resigned to him as a mere construct. After bragging after October 7 that his support for Israel was rock-solid he is now cutting off military aid as it attempts finally to end the Hamas murderous threata reversion to old Joe Biden who in his long past has previously threatened to cut off Israel while boasting later that anyone who did so was reprehensible. (Leveraging congressional mandated aid for political advantage is precisely the (false) allegation of politicking that the Democrats demagogued to impeach Trumpto the then cheers of Biden himself).

But his sell out of Israel is but a small tessera in his election pandering mosaic. He will again begin drawing down the strategic petroleum reserve to lower gas prices during the campaign. He has badgered Ukraine not to hit Russian oil facilities. He has illegally forgiven billions in student loan aid to regain the elite youth vote. And as the campaign season begins, so too Biden suddenly poses as a border enforcerafter letting in nearly 10-million illegal aliens.

Biden has always put the agendas of his own and his family above the national interest. We witnessed that when he bragged that he fired the Ukrainian prosecutor looking into his son's Burisma skullduggery. The Biden consortium is corrupt and was enriched with over $25 million through foreign interests' assurance that Senator and Vice President Joe Biden would deliver on their quid pro quo investments in him.

Any other major politician who habitually invaded the private space of women and preteens to blow on their hair, gobble their necks, squeeze and hug far too long, and be accused of sexual assault would have long since been cancelled by the left.

Add the old disturbing narrative of a naked Vice President Joe Biden exiting his pool in front of female secret service agents, the showering with his pre-teen daughter, the Frank Biden and Hunter naked selfies, and there seems something eerie among the Biden family.

Despite fierce denials, the entire lawfare scheme directed at Trump originated with the White House. Biden was always said to have been exasperated with Merrick Garland for not hastily enough going after Trump.

The misadventurous Georgia prosecutor Nathan Wade met with and was tutored by the White House counsel's office. One of the top Biden DOJ prosecutors was dispatched to rescue the bungling Alvin Bragg farce.

Jack Smith, appointed by the Biden DOJ to go after Biden's 2024 presidential rival, timed his indictments to coincide with the campaign season, even as Smith's office mishandled classified files taken at Mar-a-Lago to bolster its prosecutionand then lied about it.

Hard-won American deterrence was destroyed by the humiliation in Afghanistan and the lies surrounding the disaster, the Chinese balloon flight and the misinformation about it, the wars in Ukraine, Gaza, and on the Red Sea, and the accompanying disinformation from the White House.

Such recklessness abroad is the bookend to the home front where massive borrowing, the destruction of the border, crippling inflation, spiraling crime, and the epidemic of "progressive" anti-Semitism on campuses have made American almost unrecognizable.

Again, at the heart of this Biden catastrophe is the Faustian bargain of 2020 when unelectable leftist candidates dropped out in unison to use a fumbling Biden as their more presentable veneer. So he was foisted upon the nation to serve as "moderate" cover to advance a radical, veritable Obama third-term. In that sense, his duties were ceremonialas the hard-left channeled through him the most radical agenda in U.S. history, and found his debility and dementia advantageousthe country be damned.

If Biden makes it to and through the convention, he and his record remain indefensible. And so expect his campaign largely to be waged through lawfare against Trump, and massive infusions of leftist cash to ensure record mail-in and early voting. In the campaign Biden will become an afterthought, a ghost, vapor, as his party seeks to construct the entire election one of leftwing, blue-city prosecutors, judges, and juries versus serial defendant Trump.

But will Nemesis first catch up to Biden's long record of hubris and dishonesty?
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May God protect us from this evil the Democrat Party has become.
Buy a man eat fish, he day, teach fish man, to a lifetime.

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I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled.

- Kamala Harris
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They're gaslighting you.

For example:
Look in PA, Trump wins PA, but is polling 5% worse with whites. Biden is at 50% with blacks. Blacks may think he sucks, but he support isn't going to crater from 90+% to 50%.

WI - Trump has less support among white voters than in 2020 and is losing the suburbs by 8% when he won them by 12 in 2020, and getting is polling at 0% of the black vote. Biden is only getting 40% of the black vote and 14% of blacks are gonna vote for Jill Stein over Biden.

Think critically about the data!
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Well if they're gaslighting us, they're also starting to gaslight the lib media because they're starting to see the light of what's coming. You should be worried.
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I don't believe Biden will be Trump's opponent in November…
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You could be right, but who?
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Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.
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I find it hard to believe as well but I just do not see a way around it for the Dems. Their only other option is Kamala whow Trump would mop the floor with.

How are they going to change leaders? It has to be at the convention in Chicago correct??
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There are actually some states that have the nomination due before the convention. The turmoil that would cause if they didn't let the replacement on the ballot.
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oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…

Michelle Obama scares the hell outta me as a conservative…that would really back in the minority and female votes…she's very popular still…

I know she says she's not interested, but I'm not sure I buy that…
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FireAg said:

oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…

Michelle Obama scares the hell outta me as a conservative…that would really back in the minority and female votes…she's very popular still…

I know she says she's not interested, but I'm not sure I buy that…


Newsome has no chance and from what I understand Michelle Obama truly hates politics. I listened to someone from the Obama White House a few weeks ago talk about this on the radio and he was beyond certain that she would never run no matter what. Apparently in the eight years she was in the WH she avoided any and all involvement in political strategy. And yes she scares me too.

I just do not see how it could be anyone other than Kamala Harris. Which is why it will almost certainly be Joe Biden.
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If they replace Biden and it isn't with Newsom, it will likely be Frau Whitmer.

There are a few other governors they might go with, but Whitmer is the most likely after Newsom.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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FireAg said:

oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…

Michelle Obama scares the hell outta me as a conservative…that would really back in the minority and female votes…she's very popular still…

I know she says she's not interested, but I'm not sure I buy that…
we need to pray Biden holds on for another 6 months.
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Rapier108 said:

If they replace Biden and it isn't with Newsom, it will likely be Frau Whitmer.

There are a few other governors they might go with, but Whitmer is the most likely after Newsom.


No chance. Not that she wouldnt be a good candidate. She probably would be. But their DEI mindsets would never let them pass up Kamala. No chance. It would absolutely destroy the Democrat Party.
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LMCane said:

FireAg said:

oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…

Michelle Obama scares the hell outta me as a conservative…that would really back in the minority and female votes…she's very popular still…

I know she says she's not interested, but I'm not sure I buy that…
we need to pray Biden holds on for another 6 months.


I do think that an argument for him to step down and let Kamala Harris take over today does make some sense. If it is going to be someone else it is going to be Harris and the sooner she gets running the better off she will be. But no way that happens.

It's going to be Biden
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So many people on the right underestimate how logistically difficult it would be to replace Biden either at the convention or after. It's going to be Biden.
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FireAg said:

oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…
why does it matter that he performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate or that folks are fleeing commiefornia in droves? or even how much debt he's been racking up in CA? He's a democrat doing democrat things that the elites and the regime love over there. We've already seen this story play out before with fortified elections and well-funded mailed out ballot harvesting operations in key swing state cities: they don't need a good candidate to install who they want to install.
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That's a meltdown. Heilimann is a Dem shill from long back.
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It's…gonna get worse for them. This is no longer an outlier poll/stat.



The problem for them is that their GOTV efforts are keyed on their demographics, to make a difference in a 'surge' effort toward Election Day/week, but if…their coveted demographic/racial groups are breaking more toward Trump than needed, it becomes useless.
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nortex97 said:

their GOTV efforts
GOTV efforts used to be commercials, rallies, concerts to excite voters enough to go exercise their right. Now, GOTV efforts entail elitist billionaire-funded NGOs managing mail-in ballot harvesting operations. Polls, or what the people actually want, no longer matter. GOTV "surges" are no longer a concern. Having good candidates or even viable sensical good policies or platforms don't even matter anymore. It's controlled and the outcome is predetermined. We've already seen this story play out.
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Well Kamala was supposed to take over for joe, and Trump was supposed to be legally disqualified so…

ETA Hillary was supposed to win.
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ImSoDumb said:

They're gaslighting you.

For example:
Look in PA, Trump wins PA, but is polling 5% worse with whites. Biden is at 50% with blacks. Blacks may think he sucks, but he support isn't going to crater from 90+% to 50%.

WI - Trump has less support among white voters than in 2020 and is losing the suburbs by 8% when he won them by 12 in 2020, and getting is polling at 0% of the black vote. Biden is only getting 40% of the black vote and 14% of blacks are gonna vote for Jill Stein over Biden.

Think critically about the data!
This is what I think. NO ONE, needs to think this is in the bag. R's need to turn out over 95% of their base in my mind

I have seen other polls with similar results, and I do not believe Trump is faring worse with the groups he did well with in 2020. THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO FING SENSE

So I do think some of these polls are an attempt to drive either campaign to focus on certain groups.

idk, I am baffled with the breakdowns, to a point where I just do not believe them. Everyone should assume we are losing, send money or do whatever you can to help, so do not let polls fool you in to believing Rs do not need your help
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oh no said:

FireAg said:

oh no said:

Comrade Newsom seems pretty effective at lying about everything while destroying everything. Would be a perfect fit.

He performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate, and folks are fleeing California in droves due to lawlessness, illegal aliens, and oppressive taxes…I don't see it being Newsom…
why does it matter that he performed horribly against DeSantis in a debate or that folks are fleeing commiefornia in droves? or even how much debt he's been racking up in CA? He's a democrat doing democrat things that the elites and the regime love over there. We've already seen this story play out before with fortified elections and well-funded mailed out ballot harvesting operations in key swing state cities: they don't need a good candidate to install who they want to install.
Newsom is a very talented politician and is a legit candidate

But he had a big problem explaining his deficit, he blamed it on global warming lol

People are pretty stupid but I think even they are starting to realize global warming is BS and a BS excuse

I think he would lose to Donald if he were the replacement

THE ONLY PERSON that can beat Trump is Biden or Micheal Obama. And Biden is falling fast out of that horizon

I worry about cheating, While tv is losing their asses over the polls, Biden Campaign thinks they still have it in the bag, which tells me they know something we do not fully see. They must have a bigger cheating scheme this election than last and that worries me big time
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losing their asses over the polls, Biden Campaign thinks they still have it in the bag, which tells me they know something we do not fully see.
how do people not see it? we've already seen this story play out before.

as Joe Biden and Joe Stalin both said, "it's who COUNTS the votes".
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SwigAg11 said:

2023NCAggies said:

Barnyard96 said:

They gonna have a boat load of water leaks in Fulton county.


They have to have their mail in ballots and votes counted by 8pm election night. According to newest law Kemp got passed

Idk if any other states have done anything to clean their voting up.

Something needs to be done if Trump wins the election. Republicans need to pass something making states clean their voter's rolls and have counting done by a certain time

It's obvious we cannot rely on states to get it done

As much as Republicans cry about it, they do absolutely nothing. NOTHING in most swing states to stop it.

There also needs to be something saying local judges cannot strike down election rules like they're doing in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The Georgia law that was just passed, if it survives Democrat lawsuits, does it apply already for 2024?
this election I believe. Lawsuits wont do anything. And if they do indeed enforce this, it will be interesting to see how elections go in that state from now on. IF Trump wins big and they lose their senate seat in 2026, we will all know they cheated their asses off

Texas and all Republican states need to be passing these hardliner election laws in to place, before the big cities run wild with cheating and turn their states blue.

Abbott needs to be cleaning up Harris County, that county can still be flipped to Republicans if the cheating is squashed.

the other big blue counties just need to be put in check, never let them get to Atlanta levels of cheating or we are screwed
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Can you imagine if Minnesota is actually in play. IF that is true (even if he doesn't actually win the sate), at some point Trump's momentum could make this race 'to big to rig'. A lot of time left though....

I'm voting for DeSantis in the primary, but will happily vote for Trump in the general election if he wins the primary.
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Minnesota and Texas are never in play. I don't care what the polling says. It is fools gold for each side.
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Idk how to find it but I wonder what the sample pool is, are they over sampling Dems or Rs?

Usually it is Dems, which I agree with on the northern states, I think polling should be at least +3 Dems with those states. There are vastly more Dems than Rs up there. Anything less and the poll is useless
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2023NCAggies said:

ImSoDumb said:

They're gaslighting you.

For example:
Look in PA, Trump wins PA, but is polling 5% worse with whites. Biden is at 50% with blacks. Blacks may think he sucks, but he support isn't going to crater from 90+% to 50%.

WI - Trump has less support among white voters than in 2020 and is losing the suburbs by 8% when he won them by 12 in 2020, and getting is polling at 0% of the black vote. Biden is only getting 40% of the black vote and 14% of blacks are gonna vote for Jill Stein over Biden.

Think critically about the data!
This is what I think. NO ONE, needs to think this is in the bag. R's need to turn out over 95% of their base in my mind

I have seen other polls with similar results, and I do not believe Trump is faring worse with the groups he did well with in 2020. THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO FING SENSE

So I do think some of these polls are an attempt to drive either campaign to focus on certain groups.

idk, I am baffled with the breakdowns, to a point where I just do not believe them. Everyone should assume we are losing, send money or do whatever you can to help, so do not let polls fool you in to believing Rs do not need your help
I think it is just more evidence of the seismic shift in party loyalties no different than the major shifts in the civil rights era. This time though instead of race it is the shift of working class and white collar voters.
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

Minnesota and Texas are never in play. I don't care what the polling says. It is fools gold for each side.
Trump lost Minnesota by 44k in 2016

There should be enough votes in the rural areas to overcome that. But Trump would need a massive ground game to get it and he does not have ANY ground game right now

Which is a huge problem. Most of the polls Trump is losing with likely voters, which means he needs a ground game to get the results of the "adults" polls that are showing him with the big leads.

IDk how Republicans allowed the RNC to shut down all their ground game offices but that was a huge mistake and a dumbass one
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nortex97 said:

It's…gonna get worse for them. This is no longer an outlier poll/stat.



The problem for them is that their GOTV efforts are keyed on their demographics, to make a difference in a 'surge' effort toward Election Day/week, but if…their coveted demographic/racial groups are breaking more toward Trump than needed, it becomes useless.
Trump under siege with BS litigation resonates sharply with the Black community who have always believed there is a 2 tier justice system. If Trump gets convicted expect those numbers to go even higher.
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expect those numbers to go even higher
but are they going in for early voting or on election day and if not, who is intercepting/collecting, filling out, and dropping off their mailed out ballots? are the harvesting operations as well-funded this time as they were last time? Zuck and friends still motivated to part with half a bill to election "charity" again?
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oh no said:

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expect those numbers to go even higher
but are they going in for early voting or on election day and if not, who is intercepting/collecting, filling out, and dropping off their mailed out ballots? are the harvesting operations as well-funded this time as they were last time? Zuck and friends still motivated to part with half a bill to election "charity" again?
I'm hoping the left views a Trump conviction the same way they did the Access Hollywood tapes and think "it's in the bag, we can coast to a victory."
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Again, as stated earlier, "it's not the vote that counts, it's who's counting the votes".
Say it, say it again and again and again....
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I've typed it over and over -- since January 2021, liberals have said they'll stop at nothing to prevent Trump from getting back into the White House.

Until this paradigm shifts, these polls are just digital toilet paper.
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
 
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