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This is low IQ stuff from Tucker. Disappointing.

average Russian income is $15,000 per year.

GDP per capita is $12,000.

But those subways though...

And the "family structure" approach to analyzing the Israel-Hamas conflict was bizarre but also another method of projecting equivalence between the two conflicting entities.

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Another who completely missed the point.

Is there a contest or something I'm not aware of?

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TA-OP said:

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No thanks. He's a right wing propagandist.

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Right Wing? He's an asset of the GRU

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Why do you insist on beclowning yourself?

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rgvag11 said:

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Lol at all the people that think Russia cities are better than American cities. Russia psyops has done well.

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So judging by your posts and your OP, this is exactly what I thought it was. You're not interested in honest discussion at all.

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Not at all. I would love to have a rational, evidence based comparison of Moscow and NYC. Now where are we going to get realistic crime statistics from an authoritarian police state?

I was in Moscow about ten years ago.

it was the early spring and the traffic was horrendous, the cars were ugly Soviet pieces of @#$, everything was still snowy and caked with mud.

only a simp for Putin believes that Russia is better than Miami, Boston, Charleston, Charlotte, Atlanta, Dallas...

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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rgvag11 said:

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Lol at all the people that think Russia cities are better than American cities. Russia psyops has done well.

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So judging by your posts and your OP, this is exactly what I thought it was. You're not interested in honest discussion at all.

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Not at all. I would love to have a rational, evidence based comparison of Moscow and NYC. Now where are we going to get realistic crime statistics from an authoritarian police state?

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Probably would be a challenge to get them from the Russians too.

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average Russian income is $15,000 per year.

GDP per capita is $12,000.

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Moscow is much richer than the national average, though.

Actually, it's 5th place among Russia's "states", being beaten by Siberian regions with oil and gas or gold mining.

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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fixer said:

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This is low IQ stuff from Tucker. Disappointing.

average Russian income is $15,000 per year.

GDP per capita is $12,000.

But those subways though...

And the "family structure" approach to analyzing the Israel-Hamas conflict was bizarre but also another method of projecting equivalence between the two conflicting entities.

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Another who completely missed the point.

Is there a contest or something I'm not aware of?

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The point wasn't well made at all. Tucker can and has done better.

We just have to cane a few million asses to keep the gum out from under the chairs.

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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fixer said:

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This is low IQ stuff from Tucker. Disappointing.

average Russian income is $15,000 per year.

GDP per capita is $12,000.

But those subways though...

And the "family structure" approach to analyzing the Israel-Hamas conflict was bizarre but also another method of projecting equivalence between the two conflicting entities.

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Another who completely missed the point.

Is there a contest or something I'm not aware of?

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The point wasn't well made at all. Tucker can and has done better.

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But Moscow is so much prettier than any American city. Look at all their beautiful government housing.








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We just have to cane a few million asses to keep the gum out from under the chairs.

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we could start by executing dangerous illegal drug traffickers and caning perpetrators of thievery, vandalism, and assault. Whose freedom does that authoritarian rule take away?

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JJxvi said:

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We just have to cane a few million asses to keep the gum out from under the chairs.

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we could start by executing dangerous illegal drug traffickers and caning perpetrators of thievery, vandalism, and assault. Whose freedom does that authoritarian rule take away?

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All the people executed and caned for child abuse because they wouldn't let their kid get a sex change surgery. The law of unintended consequences applies to everyone...

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Monoculture

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The obvious reason that no one in America would admit publicly for fear of retribution.

Diversity is not a strength when that includes certain cultures. If diverse ethnic groups want to come here and leave behind their inferior, third world culture then great.

Unfortunately, that horse is out of the barn and there is no going back.

That's actually really cool in a The Walking Dead kind of way.

oh yeah, putin ain't got nothin on the chicago housing authority. our projects are clearly more beautiful than russia's. you just have to manage to not get shot to admire their beauty.

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There are nice parts of American cities but the reality is that we are coasting in comparison to what they were in the 1950s.

You used to be able to walk around them at night but I can't think of any major American city where I would do this, even carrying weapons.

This is what homogeneity gets you. It's what we had prior to 1960.

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That's what car culture gets you. We wanted our own plots of land with our own house, lawns, and space to enjoy. You simply can't do that in a densely populated urban core. We can complain about NYC having lots of issues but it is absolutely a walkable, generally safe city.

Libs love them some Europe and Moscow is a European city so I'd assume the libs are all like "of course it's a great city"

Tucker probably only saw a curated view of Moscow around red square and that area is pretty cool

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Nanomachines son said:

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There are nice parts of American cities but the reality is that we are coasting in comparison to what they were in the 1950s.

You used to be able to walk around them at night but I can't think of any major American city where I would do this, even carrying weapons.

This is what homogeneity gets you. It's what we had prior to 1960.

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That's what car culture gets you. We wanted our own plots of land with our own house, lawns, and space to enjoy. You simply can't do that in a densely populated urban core. We can complain about NYC having lots of issues but it is absolutely a walkable, generally safe city.

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Bull***** Our cities were safe and fine in 1960 when the nation was 90% white and much of it homogeneous. Our cities were built around cars and none of this was a problem.

We had clean public transportation and no homeless issues. Our roads were in good condition even with commuting, etc.

Graffiti wasn't a thing anywhere.

Diversity has destroyed every major city in the US. Nearly all of them are incredibly dangerous at night and covered in graffiti and the general beauty has been destroyed. Art Deco buildings were the last truly great architectural movement the US had. Everything after 1960 has been pure garbage.

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That's actually really cool in a The Walking Dead kind of way.

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Too funny.

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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Did you not understand his point or something?

What is it with this board constantly mischaracterizing or taking things out of context to try and prove a point lately?

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What was taken out of context?

jagvocate said:

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Uncontrolled immigration is unaffordable

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You can have open borders or a welfare state but you can't have both

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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Did you not understand his point or something?

What is it with this board constantly mischaracterizing or taking things out of context to try and prove a point lately?

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Is this your shtick now? Goaltending for Putin? Seriously though, Tucker didn't have any points in his interview. He just let Putin talk for 2 hours and then say "yeah you guys are awesome and the U.S. sucks".

Softball is a girls sport.

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Hypothetical: would you feel safer walking around Moscow at night (you look like yourself, but nobody knows you're an American) or say the west side or south side of Chicago at night (you look just like yourself)?

I'm going with the unknown of Moscow because what will happen in Chi-Town is a given.

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To be fair, the question should be whether you would feel safer walking around the most dangerous part of Moscow or the most dangerous part of Chicago and knowing just how unsafe they are.

Just about any city of any size is going to have areas with low crime rates and areas of high crime rates.

Effing hack

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Monoculture

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so do you want America to only be one ethnic race? Which race gets America

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I used to know someone who was convinced that America is the lost tribe of Israel.

So no matter what our heritage, we are all Jewish.

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RED AG 98 said:

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I don't follow Jack but this was shared with me earlier. There's certainly nothing in the US that compares to this aesthetic, which is what Tucker mentioned...

Subway in Moscow that Tucker Carlson was talking about pic.twitter.com/99DnxdesTP

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) February 13, 2024

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Our subways could look like that, but there's a huge difference between what can be built using conscripted labor, including artisans and fine craftsmen versus low-bid contracts using the cheapest labor, materials, and designs possible. US standards are: cheap, easy, and low-maintenance.

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Were the woman fat with tattoos and blue hair?

Mike Hancho said:

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Gee whiz I'm sure a black person wouldn't feel safe walking around Moscow at night vs downtown Houston. Stupid comparison

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It sounds like you are admitting that diversity is not a strength but a weakness. Statistics prove you right. The countries with the highest standards of living are all pretty homogenous - Netherlands, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Finland, Oman, Austria, Norway ...

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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Did you not understand his point or something?

What is it with this board constantly mischaracterizing or taking things out of context to try and prove a point lately?

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Is this your shtick now? Goaltending for Putin? Seriously though, Tucker didn't have any points in his interview. He just let Putin talk for 2 hours and then say "yeah you guys are awesome and the U.S. sucks".

Softball is a girls sport.

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Goaltending for Putin? What planet are you on? Are you having issues following along?

And speaking of schticks…yours is one of the worst on this board. It's absolutely bizarre for a middle-aged woman.

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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Did you not understand his point or something?

What is it with this board constantly mischaracterizing or taking things out of context to try and prove a point lately?

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Is this your shtick now? Goaltending for Putin? Seriously though, Tucker didn't have any points in his interview. He just let Putin talk for 2 hours and then say "yeah you guys are awesome and the U.S. sucks".

Softball is a girls sport.

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Goaltending for Putin? What planet are you on? Are you having issues following along?

And speaking of schticks…yours is one of the worst on this board. It's absolutely bizarre for a middle-aged woman.

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Good one. I didn't realize middle aged gay men were so funny.

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RED AG 98 said:

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I don't follow Jack but this was shared with me earlier. There's certainly nothing in the US that compares to this aesthetic, which is what Tucker mentioned...

Subway in Moscow that Tucker Carlson was talking about pic.twitter.com/99DnxdesTP

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) February 13, 2024

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Our subways could look like that, but there's a huge difference between what can be built using conscripted labor, including artisans and fine craftsmen versus low-bid contracts using the cheapest labor, materials, and designs possible. US standards are: cheap, easy, and low-maintenance.

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Opened in 1913. The USA's "cheap, easy, and low-maintenance" standard of (non-)architecture only really took off after WW2.

Take a look at Pennsylvania Station after it was relegated to the basement in 1963.

I have opened an office in Abu Dhabi and have to travel there for about 2 weeks every quarter. It is astonishing how nice Abu Dhabi and Dubai are. Everything is clean, everyone at the airport is diligent and competent, everything is safe, they have gleaming parks everywhere without a wino, gang member or spec of trash visible. It seems to be a beautiful place to raise a family.

I understand that life is only like that for the expats and small minority citizenry, and not the teeming mass of Indian and Filipino labor that makes up the lower class work force, however if you are wealthy, it is an absolutely phenomenal place.

Our downtowns are absolute embarrassments to the country and its citizens. Our government workers are clowns. It's too tall of an order to ask our country to compete with a tiny petrobillionaire state, but we should expect better

TC Shorts: The Moscow Subway Station pic.twitter.com/xX8qRrda3X

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) February 14, 2024

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TC Shorts: The Moscow Subway Station pic.twitter.com/xX8qRrda3X

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) February 14, 2024

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Look at El Salvador, all it takes is political will. You have to have someone who is willing to stand up and say "ok we aren't going to permit that anymore", and has to literally round up, remove and detain, those that violate the new social contract.

We can have a spotless country, we just have to be willing to unleash the hounds on the homeless and the drug addicted.

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oh no said:

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TC Shorts: The Moscow Subway Station pic.twitter.com/xX8qRrda3X

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) February 14, 2024

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Look at El Salvador, all it takes is political will. You have to have someone who is willing to stand up and say "ok we aren't going to permit that anymore", and has to literally round up, remove and detain, those that violate the new social contract.

We can have a spotless country, we just have to be willing to unleash the hounds on the homeless and the drug addicted.

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Or completely overhaul the culture, which is impossible too. Everywhere we went in Japan was extremely clean and safe. Japan is not an example of an authoritarian police state, so how do they do it? It's due to the unique combination of Buddhist and Shinto practices and the pervasive "politeness" ingrained in their culture. It's admirable, but no other country would be able to replicate it.

Mike Hancho said:

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Gee whiz I'm sure a black person wouldn't feel safe walking around Moscow at night vs downtown Houston. Stupid comparison

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