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Trump with a mature response as usual. A mock video worshipping himself.

“BATTLE OF LOSERVILLE” pic.twitter.com/eCCVLMCb89

— Liz Harrington (@realLizUSA) December 1, 2023

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And MAGA is incapable of figuring out why more and more Republicans will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

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It won't matter because I live in a state that's solidly RED thanks to DeSantis (despite what some may think, proof that he's ready for the big dance), but Trump is slowly losing my vote with his immature, crass B.S. online posting. How the hell am I supposed to proudly cast my vote for an 80-yr old jackass who pulls stuff like that? What a pathetic buffoon.

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Trump with a mature response as usual. A mock video worshipping himself.

“BATTLE OF LOSERVILLE” pic.twitter.com/eCCVLMCb89

— Liz Harrington (@realLizUSA) December 1, 2023

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And MAGA is incapable of figuring out why more and more Republicans will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

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It won't matter because I live in a state that's solidly RED thanks to DeSantis (despite what some may think, proof that he's ready for the big dance), but Trump is slowly losing my vote with his immature, crass B.S. online posting. How the hell am I supposed to proudly cast my vote for an 80-yr old jackass who pulls stuff like that? What a pathetic buffoon.

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Smart people base their vote on policy and production not feelings and pride and butt hirt over mean tweets, that's a liberal view.

Elon Musk said it best, "People are more worried about the perception and appearance of looking good while doing evil, instead of actual substance, action and policy and doing good."

Just keep basing your votes on feelings and you will forever be losing.

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Trump with a mature response as usual. A mock video worshipping himself.

“BATTLE OF LOSERVILLE” pic.twitter.com/eCCVLMCb89

— Liz Harrington (@realLizUSA) December 1, 2023

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And MAGA is incapable of figuring out why more and more Republicans will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

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It won't matter because I live in a state that's solidly RED thanks to DeSantis (despite what some may think, proof that he's ready for the big dance), but Trump is slowly losing my vote with his immature, crass B.S. online posting. How the hell am I supposed to proudly cast my vote for an 80-yr old jackass who pulls stuff like that? What a pathetic buffoon.

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The only way this ever stops is people finally say that the line has been crossed, and we won't vote for just anyone who has an R next to their name. Trump will never not be this way, and the more people who are willing to vote for him just because he isn't Biden is enabling it and encouraging it for the future. This is literally the reason why we live in Idiocracy.

Foreverconservative said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Trump with a mature response as usual. A mock video worshipping himself.

“BATTLE OF LOSERVILLE” pic.twitter.com/eCCVLMCb89

— Liz Harrington (@realLizUSA) December 1, 2023

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And MAGA is incapable of figuring out why more and more Republicans will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

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It won't matter because I live in a state that's solidly RED thanks to DeSantis (despite what some may think, proof that he's ready for the big dance), but Trump is slowly losing my vote with his immature, crass B.S. online posting. How the hell am I supposed to proudly cast my vote for an 80-yr old jackass who pulls stuff like that? What a pathetic buffoon.

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Smart people base their vote on policy and production not feelings and pride and butt hirt over mean tweets, that's a liberal view.

Elon Musk said it best, "People are more worried about the perception and appearance of looking good while doing evil, instead of actual substance, action and policy and doing good."

Just keep basing your votes on feelings and you will forever be losing.

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Ok, then based on production, uhhhmmmm, Trump leaves a lot to be desired as well. Sorry to break that to you.

Oh, and maybe if you expected just a little bit more from politicians for your vote then we wouldn't be stuck with a jackass grifter as the leading candidate.

No more mean tweets and acting "Unpresidential" but you'd rather pay double at the pump, the grocery store and watch your country go to crap, what a great philosophy to live by.

Foreverconservative said:

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No more mean tweets and acting "Unpresidential" but you'd rather pay double at the pump, the grocery store and watch your country go to crap, what a great philosophy to live by.

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You really think that's what Desantis' policies would bring? Are you familiar with him at all?

FL_Ag1998 said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Trump with a mature response as usual. A mock video worshipping himself.

“BATTLE OF LOSERVILLE” pic.twitter.com/eCCVLMCb89

— Liz Harrington (@realLizUSA) December 1, 2023

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And MAGA is incapable of figuring out why more and more Republicans will not vote for him if he is the nominee.

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It won't matter because I live in a state that's solidly RED thanks to DeSantis (despite what some may think, proof that he's ready for the big dance), but Trump is slowly losing my vote with his immature, crass B.S. online posting. How the hell am I supposed to proudly cast my vote for an 80-yr old jackass who pulls stuff like that? What a pathetic buffoon.

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Smart people base their vote on policy and production not feelings and pride and butt hirt over mean tweets, that's a liberal view.

Elon Musk said it best, "People are more worried about the perception and appearance of looking good while doing evil, instead of actual substance, action and policy and doing good."

Just keep basing your votes on feelings and you will forever be losing.

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Ok, then based on production, uhhhmmmm, Trump leaves a lot to be desired as well. Sorry to break that to you.

Oh, and maybe if you expected just a little bit more from politicians for your vote then we wouldn't be stuck with a jackass grifter as the leading candidate.

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Grifter? You consider DeSantis a grifter? If you think Trump is a grifter I'd love to hear evidence of that BS claim. You think DeSantis is going to return his paycheck to the taxpayers? Or any president as far as that goes? The panty waists love to claim Trump is a grifter but he had the economy red hot and rolling despite faing the headwinds of the DC Machine full on like no other POTUS in history has faced. Grifter my azzzz

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Foreverconservative said:

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No more mean tweets and acting "Unpresidential" but you'd rather pay double at the pump, the grocery store and watch your country go to crap, what a great philosophy to live by.

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You really think that's what Desantis' policies would bring? Are you familiar with him at all?

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DeSantis isn't POTUS and likely will never be

Despite all the fan boy rah rah rah DeSantis let the lying POS Newsome stand there and lie his azzz off and the best he could do was poop charts and a few quips. I thought he was a Navy Seal...... the Seals I know don't take beatings they deliver them.

I think DeSantis is a good person, but he's trying to be too polite in a slugfest with the lying left. He was an idiot to take up that debate. Newsome will NEVER be POTUS and he's not even running now. There was no upside to debating that lying POS

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BigBrother said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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No more mean tweets and acting "Unpresidential" but you'd rather pay double at the pump, the grocery store and watch your country go to crap, what a great philosophy to live by.

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You really think that's what Desantis' policies would bring? Are you familiar with him at all?

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DeSantis isn't POTUS and likely will never be

Despite all the fan boy rah rah rah DeSantis let the lying POS Newsome stand there and lie his azzz off and the best he could do was poop charts and a few quips. I thought he was a Navy Seal...... the Seals I know don't take beatings they deliver them.

I think DeSantis is a good person, but he's trying to be too polite in a slugfest with the lying left. He was an idiot to take up that debate. Newsome will NEVER be POTUS and he's not even running now. There was no upside to debating that lying POS

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Is this the "Navy Seal" you are familiar with?

Biden will appreciate your vote

Takes from the CM from CA that has never voted for Newsom and voted to recall him.

1. Newsom is my least favorite kind of politician. Just a walking hot air DB without a sense of integrity or humility. Hes quite good at polishing a turd, but that only works for low-IQ morons.
2. I live here and at least LA is noticeably cleaner / fewer homeless than it was 1 year ago. lt has a ways to go, but it is serious about adding more housing and police (via an exasperated public) are given more leiway. I say that because
3. Every statistic was shown to make CA look way worse than FL. Where warranted, totally fair game. Where nuance or even admitting FL may be worse, it was lazy moderation expected on Fox News. FL does in fact have a meaningfully higher homocide and gun violence rate than CA. CA has a substantially worse property crime problem. Ergo, CA is worse for crime in aggregate is fact, but the nuance does matter, especially with homocides.
4. On every economic and quality of life issues, DeSantis pantsed Newsom. Newsom insulted everyones intelligence and reading skills. Just admit the problem, heres what were doing to fix it, would have been reasonable. Denying, doubling down, or saying Florida is worse was embarsassing.
5. Culture war stuff I gave Newsom the edge, although both sides were cringy. Nobody should defend graphic novels depicting sex acts in school libraries, nor should anyone weasel out of saying nobody is banning, on a local level, Tony Morrison. The excesses of the culture war are nauseatingand Id like to see two grown men vying for national power try to turn down the volume with common sense. Its probably too much to ask.
6. At least Ron said nice things about CA. Newsom couldnt be bothered to say FL has nice beaches and great tourism.

Overall, I came away hating Newsom more and left feeling no different than before about Ron.

Foreverconservative said:

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Biden will appreciate your vote

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No Dem has ever earned my vote. Trump has lost mine. Don't be like the PA voters willing to vote for Fetterman just because of the D after his name.

Foreverconservative said:

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Biden will appreciate your vote

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And the millions of votes of white suburban women that Trump has forever turned off.

Dr. Teeth said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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Biden will appreciate your vote

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And the millions of votes of white suburban women that Trump has forever turned off.

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Once again proving my original point about voting based on butthurt feelings and mean tweets. If you're condoning that you're part of the problem

I don't condone anything.

I just observe reality.

Foreverconservative said:

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BigBrother said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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No more mean tweets and acting "Unpresidential" but you'd rather pay double at the pump, the grocery store and watch your country go to crap, what a great philosophy to live by.

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You really think that's what Desantis' policies would bring? Are you familiar with him at all?

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DeSantis isn't POTUS and likely will never be

Despite all the fan boy rah rah rah DeSantis let the lying POS Newsome stand there and lie his azzz off and the best he could do was poop charts and a few quips. I thought he was a Navy Seal...... the Seals I know don't take beatings they deliver them.

I think DeSantis is a good person, but he's trying to be too polite in a slugfest with the lying left. He was an idiot to take up that debate. Newsome will NEVER be POTUS and he's not even running now. There was no upside to debating that lying POS

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California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom's wife reportedly ended the Fox News debate on Thursday night between Newsom and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

After the first 90 minutes of the debate were finished, moderator Sean Hannity said that he had more time to extend the debate. Both candidates agreed to stay and Newsom said that he would be "happy to do it."

"We will take a break. They have agreed to stay," Hannity said. "Well, that's I guess the debate on the fly. We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage."

Behind the scenes, however, the Newsom team was reportedly furious over the outcome of the debate, with Newsom adviser Sean Clegg claiming: "The debate was rigged."

Much of the reaction on social media to the debate was positive for DeSantis and negative for Newsom.

During the break before the extended portion of the debate, Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, entered the room and intervened to end the debate, NBC News reported, citing multiple sources with the DeSantis campaign and another source that was unaffiliated with either side.

"We're done," she reportedly said.

POLITICO reported that two sources, including a DeSantis campaign aide, said the Newsom's wife had put a stop to the debate extension.

"Gavin Newsom got beat so badly last night his wife literally had to throw in the towel for him," said DeSantis spokesperson Andrew Romeo.

Newsom's team claimed that both sides wanted to end the debate. DeSantis team strongly pushed back on those claims, saying that DeSantis was prepared to potentially go as long as three hours.


A spokesperson for Newsom claimed without evidence that there was a teleprompter set up that allowed DeSantis to see what was going to be asked. A Fox News spokesperson said this claim was not true.

Newsom's team was also angered that DeSantis used printed images during the debate to show graphic material taught in California schools and a map of fecal matter on the streets of San Francisco.

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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I don't condone anything.

I just observe reality.

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So are you basing your suburban women claims on the NYT or USA Today or what. Because one of the most notable trends to emerge from the 2016 presidential election was the large number of white women who actually helped solidify Trump's victory. Many of them lived in suburbs, and they supported the grab-'em-by-the-pu**y candidate, despite MSM calling him a sexist, racist, Hitler you name it, and his so called derogatory behavior on the campaign trail, was a stark reminder that in reality suburban women vote on their pocket books and what they experience in the retail stores not TMZ headlines and hot mic tapes.

And as the 2020 election season got under way, pollsters pundits and the MSM predicted that 2020 would be different. Countless articles with headlines like "Revenge of the Wine Moms" and "Why Suburban Women Changed Their Minds" suggested that BS you're spouting that white suburban women would finally come around to their senses and turn on Trump. Then there was all the BS mea-culpa-style interviews seemed backed up by numbers pollsters pulled out of their collective butts claiming the 2018 primaries were Trumps fault, and that group helped propel a blue wave in the suburbs, and all their BS pre-election data suggested it would do the same in 2020

But the actual exit polls quickly told the real story. While 90 percent of Black women voters supported Joe Biden, along with almost 60 percent of Hispanic women, the available data showed that 55% of white suburban women voted for Trump again. So it's pretty fu**ing clear that despite all the polls and the idiots that believe them, it's Trump's policies and performance with the economy that draw their votes not his antics. No amount of mean tweets or hateful speech will stop these suburban women voters from supporting Trump, They give a damn about their grocery bill and kids futures not butt hurt panty waists hurt feelings. Trump has more votes than any republican ever in history and bigger numbers with minorities and suburban women including Reagan's landslide victory over Mondale. So your claims of suburban women forever nonsense is laughable. Stop reading the garbage media and look at the exit polls numbers.

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

5.5 million viewers

Foreverconservative said:

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aggiehawg said:

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

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Lol, he destroyed him so badly his wife literally stopped him from continuing.

If you didn't love that debate you simply aren't a conservative.

aggie93 said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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aggiehawg said:

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

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Lol, he destroyed him so badly his wife literally stopped him from continuing.

If you didn't love that debate you simply aren't a conservative.

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He's not, he's a Trump fan.

Malibu said:

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Takes from the CM from CA that has never voted for Newsom and voted to recall him.

1. Newsom is my least favorite kind of politician. Just a walking hot air DB without a sense of integrity or humility. Hes quite good at polishing a turd, but that only works for low-IQ morons.
2. I live here and at least LA is noticeably cleaner / fewer homeless than it was 1 year ago. lt has a ways to go, but it is serious about adding more housing and police (via an exasperated public) are given more leiway. I say that because
3. Every statistic was shown to make CA look way worse than FL. Where warranted, totally fair game. Where nuance or even admitting FL may be worse, it was lazy moderation expected on Fox News. FL does in fact have a meaningfully higher homocide and gun violence rate than CA. CA has a substantially worse property crime problem. Ergo, CA is worse for crime in aggregate is fact, but the nuance does matter, especially with homocides.
4. On every economic and quality of life issues, DeSantis pantsed Newsom. Newsom insulted everyones intelligence and reading skills. Just admit the problem, heres what were doing to fix it, would have been reasonable. Denying, doubling down, or saying Florida is worse was embarsassing.
5. Culture war stuff I gave Newsom the edge, although both sides were cringy. Nobody should defend graphic novels depicting sex acts in school libraries, nor should anyone weasel out of saying nobody is banning, on a local level, Tony Morrison. The excesses of the culture war are nauseatingand Id like to see two grown men vying for national power try to turn down the volume with common sense. Its probably too much to ask.
6. At least Ron said nice things about CA. Newsom couldnt be bothered to say FL has nice beaches and great tourism.

Overall, I came away hating Newsom more and left feeling no different than before about Ron.

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Good, well presented insights and fair. This is the Malibu I used to know.

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California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom's wife reportedly ended the Fox News debate on Thursday night between Newsom and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

After the first 90 minutes of the debate were finished, moderator Sean Hannity said that he had more time to extend the debate. Both candidates agreed to stay and Newsom said that he would be "happy to do it."

"We will take a break. They have agreed to stay," Hannity said. "Well, that's I guess the debate on the fly. We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage."

Behind the scenes, however, the Newsom team was reportedly furious over the outcome of the debate, with Newsom adviser Sean Clegg claiming: "The debate was rigged."

Much of the reaction on social media to the debate was positive for DeSantis and negative for Newsom.

During the break before the extended portion of the debate, Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, entered the room and intervened to end the debate, NBC News reported, citing multiple sources with the DeSantis campaign and another source that was unaffiliated with either side.

"We're done," she reportedly said.

POLITICO reported that two sources, including a DeSantis campaign aide, said the Newsom's wife had put a stop to the debate extension.

"Gavin Newsom got beat so badly last night his wife literally had to throw in the towel for him," said DeSantis spokesperson Andrew Romeo.

Newsom's team claimed that both sides wanted to end the debate. DeSantis team strongly pushed back on those claims, saying that DeSantis was prepared to potentially go as long as three hours.


A spokesperson for Newsom claimed without evidence that there was a teleprompter set up that allowed DeSantis to see what was going to be asked. A Fox News spokesperson said this claim was not true.

Newsom's team was also angered that DeSantis used printed images during the debate to show graphic material taught in California schools and a map of fecal matter on the streets of San Francisco.

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Wow, those are Trump level excuses

Foreverconservative said:

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aggiehawg said:

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

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You are wrong. DeSantis was very effective at throwing the poop all over Newsome. Newsome came off as arrogant, pompous, unprepared, rude, self absorbed, uninformed and rather dull.

Anytime a demoRat like this comes way dipped in sh** its been a good night. So how come Trump is hiding in his bunker and never doing his part to discredit the left? Has he lost that real fighting spirit- and no I dont mean 8th grade level name calling from Social Truth. I'm talking about hammering them on issues and substance.

Trump is a man-child in comparison.

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aggie93 said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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aggiehawg said:

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

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Lol, he destroyed him so badly his wife literally stopped him from continuing.

If you didn't love that debate you simply aren't a conservative.

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He's not, he's a Trump fan.

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Username definitely doesn't check out.

aggie93 said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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aggiehawg said:

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That poop map has been around for years. Can't believe Newsom has never seen it. It was that map that they used to clean up the areas that Xi would see during his visit, didn't they?

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90% of what that clown was spewing was a lie and DeSantis and Hannity let him get away with a lot of it and gave him a platform to spout it from. No good came from giving Newsome a shouting board.

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Lol, he destroyed him so badly his wife literally stopped him from continuing.

If you didn't love that debate you simply aren't a conservative.

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Yep. Prefers mean tweets and 3rd grade insults over actual effective conservative policy. Username definitely does not check out.

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California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom's wife reportedly ended the Fox News debate on Thursday night between Newsom and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

After the first 90 minutes of the debate were finished, moderator Sean Hannity said that he had more time to extend the debate. Both candidates agreed to stay and Newsom said that he would be "happy to do it."

"We will take a break. They have agreed to stay," Hannity said. "Well, that's I guess the debate on the fly. We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage."

Behind the scenes, however, the Newsom team was reportedly furious over the outcome of the debate, with Newsom adviser Sean Clegg claiming: "The debate was rigged."

Much of the reaction on social media to the debate was positive for DeSantis and negative for Newsom.

During the break before the extended portion of the debate, Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, entered the room and intervened to end the debate, NBC News reported, citing multiple sources with the DeSantis campaign and another source that was unaffiliated with either side.

"We're done," she reportedly said.

POLITICO reported that two sources, including a DeSantis campaign aide, said the Newsom's wife had put a stop to the debate extension.

"Gavin Newsom got beat so badly last night his wife literally had to throw in the towel for him," said DeSantis spokesperson Andrew Romeo.

Newsom's team claimed that both sides wanted to end the debate. DeSantis team strongly pushed back on those claims, saying that DeSantis was prepared to potentially go as long as three hours.


A spokesperson for Newsom claimed without evidence that there was a teleprompter set up that allowed DeSantis to see what was going to be asked. A Fox News spokesperson said this claim was not true.

Newsom's team was also angered that DeSantis used printed images during the debate to show graphic material taught in California schools and a map of fecal matter on the streets of San Francisco.

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Why am I not surprised that Mrs. Newsom wears the pants in that marriage.

🤣🤣🤣@CharlieOnAir with a zinger: “I just saw a story where the National Association of Hairdressers is boycotting you for using Gavin Newsom’s head to mop the floor up with him last night.” pic.twitter.com/gpNSkKBHe7

— Lindsey Curnutte 🐊 (@lindseycurnutte) December 1, 2023

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Trump's favorite checked in with her 2 cents, apparently she disagrees with Levin.

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Another Trump sycophant showing, yet again, that nothing, no one, and not even those on the same party come before Trump. I'm sure she, like others say, will "vote for any republican over any dem," in the general (which isnt exactly surprising, it's not like they'll ever vote for the other side) but between now and then many like her obviously have no problem doing everything they can to make anyone deemed a political threat to Trump look as bad as possible.

When one can't even stay neutral, or just stay silent, to someone on their same team and says something like that, I can't think of a better word than cult-like.

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No. She's said ONLY Trump. No other Republicans.

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It was over when he decided he could do a better Trump but that debate didn't go well for Ron.

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Well over 5 million people saw it and a lot more are watching highlights. I guess we will find out.