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We would be far better off to nominate a candidate that can actually win the general election

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And therein lies the rub. Has DeSantis proved that yet?

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He's proven that he can take a small win in Florida and turn it into a blowout the next election.

With Trump, we have seen a small win in the general turned into a loss vs a potato.

DeSantis won a debate vs a younger, more vibrant Democrat in Newsom.

Trump lost a debate to an old, half-dementia Democrat in Biden.

We HAVE data.

Now, it's just up to us to act on it...

PA24 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aggiehawg said:

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We would be far better off to nominate a candidate that can actually win the general election

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And therein lies the rub. Has DeSantis proved that yet?

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He's proven that he can take a small win in Florida and turn it into a blowout the next election.

With Trump, we have seen a small win in the general turned into a loss vs a potato.

DeSantis won a debate vs a younger, more vibrant Democrat in Newsom.

Trump lost a debate to an old, half-dementia Democrat in Biden.

We HAVE data.

Now, it's just up to us to act on it...

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DSantis battle cry........wait till the next election by golly!!!!

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Battle cry is Iowa. In the end the people get to choose.

Phatbob said:

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California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom's wife reportedly ended the Fox News debate on Thursday night between Newsom and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

After the first 90 minutes of the debate were finished, moderator Sean Hannity said that he had more time to extend the debate. Both candidates agreed to stay and Newsom said that he would be "happy to do it."

"We will take a break. They have agreed to stay," Hannity said. "Well, that's I guess the debate on the fly. We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage."

Behind the scenes, however, the Newsom team was reportedly furious over the outcome of the debate, with Newsom adviser Sean Clegg claiming: "The debate was rigged."

Much of the reaction on social media to the debate was positive for DeSantis and negative for Newsom.

During the break before the extended portion of the debate, Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, entered the room and intervened to end the debate, NBC News reported, citing multiple sources with the DeSantis campaign and another source that was unaffiliated with either side.

"We're done," she reportedly said.

POLITICO reported that two sources, including a DeSantis campaign aide, said the Newsom's wife had put a stop to the debate extension.

"Gavin Newsom got beat so badly last night his wife literally had to throw in the towel for him," said DeSantis spokesperson Andrew Romeo.

Newsom's team claimed that both sides wanted to end the debate. DeSantis team strongly pushed back on those claims, saying that DeSantis was prepared to potentially go as long as three hours.


A spokesperson for Newsom claimed without evidence that there was a teleprompter set up that allowed DeSantis to see what was going to be asked. A Fox News spokesperson said this claim was not true.

Newsom's team was also angered that DeSantis used printed images during the debate to show graphic material taught in California schools and a map of fecal matter on the streets of San Francisco.

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Wow, those are Trump level excuses

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Well, he's a Democrat, so...

PA24 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aggiehawg said:

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We would be far better off to nominate a candidate that can actually win the general election

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And therein lies the rub. Has DeSantis proved that yet?

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He's proven that he can take a small win in Florida and turn it into a blowout the next election.

With Trump, we have seen a small win in the general turned into a loss vs a potato.

DeSantis won a debate vs a younger, more vibrant Democrat in Newsom.

Trump lost a debate to an old, half-dementia Democrat in Biden.

We HAVE data.

Now, it's just up to us to act on it...

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DSantis battle cry........wait till the next election by golly!!!!

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DeSantis?

That's been your MAGA crowd since 2018...

DeSantis is saying AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN.

Trump is saying NEXT TIME, IT'LL WORK

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Trump is saying YOU DIDN'T REALLY EXPECT ME TO GET IT DONE, BUT GIVE ME YOUR MONEY AND NEXT TIME I'LL DO IT

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FIFY

Nation In Shock After Gavin Newsom Murdered On Live TV https://t.co/b59f3CDzYI pic.twitter.com/YFjEYWC2vh

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) December 1, 2023

These numbers from last night’s debate are absolutely bonkers. 👀

• It accounted for 73% of all cable news viewership.

• It more than doubled the viewership from Donald Trump’s Hannity Town Hall.

• Ron DeSantis was the #1 Google inquiry last night.

Talk about momentum!

— Dustin Grage 🐊 (@GrageDustin) December 2, 2023

DeSantis got the spotlight to himself and did very well. The next day all the right wing shows talked about it and even the Trumpy ones complimented him.

Dan Scott said:

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DeSantis got the spotlight to himself and did very well. The next day all the right wing shows talked about it and even the Trumpy ones complimented him.

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That's cool. Watched the debate, but I really didn't get a chance to see any of that the next day. Good to hear.

This was DeSantis's best opportunity to move up. It couldn't have gone any better.

Now we have to see if it actually swayed any soft Trump supporters or undecideds.

If it did, then it gives him a glimmer of hope.