Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
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exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
There is nothing conservative about our resident theocrats
gbaby23 said:Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
Just say you hate liberty and own it
I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.Teslag said:gbaby23 said:Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
Just say you hate liberty and own it
I guess you're onboard with removing age restrictions for alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana? Hell let's allow kids to drive as soon as their feet can reach the pedals too. Don't need any nanny state 'round here. As long as you can keep your kids safe that's all that matters in this country of 330 million.exp said:
This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.
Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.
Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.
Andrew Dufresne said:
The whole easy access to porn era has been detrimental to society.
It's great that you are a caring parent that protects your kids and all, but lil Timmy over there in your daughter's class has been getting mind warped for years by going to pronhub on his completely unlocked tablet. Lil Timmy might grow up to be a dangerous sexual deviant that preys upon the innocent.
Ex: Ted Bundy freely admitted that porn addiction is what set him down the wrong path.. and it's way easier for kids to get porn now than it was then.
ID check for porn sites is fine with me. Feel free to call me a communist.
Saw pics of boobies on the interwebs. Still don't want to kill anyone.
Please don't kill anyone Ted Bundys of F16.
Thankfully our nanny state is hereAndrew Dufresne said:
Bottom Line: It's too easy for some children to access porn via the Internet.
Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."
It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.
It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
Teslag said:exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
There is nothing conservative about our resident theocrats
Conservatives conserving porn in the hands of children? Just as John Adams intended? Laughable
Ya I should have used one of the many, less extreme examples on why children accessing porn is bad instead. My bad
Andrew Dufresne said:
Ya I should have used one of the many, less extreme examples on why children accessing porn is bad instead. My bad
The Gilgo serial killer also has a horrible porn addiction that increased in brutality towards women. Porn addiction leading to violent fantasies is attached to quite a few murderers
RebelE Infantry said:
Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."
It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.
Well now come on, if we use the government to restrict kid's access to porn, the left might use the government to infiltrate Catholic parishes, or investigate angry parents who's kids get assaulted by trans "women" in school bathrooms. Can't go down that slippery slope. Can't risk the left using government against us, fellow conservative.
Unfortunately very true... I'm a conservative but I hate this moral enforcement and censorship stuff.exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
And I'm pretty appalled that they don't seem to care about the MASSIVE privacy concerns that ID verification would bring up
--- Go and try, you'll never break me! ---
Steampunk-Kangaroo said:Unfortunately very true... I'm a conservative but I hate this moral enforcement and censorship stuff.exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
And I'm pretty appalled that they don't seem to care about the MASSIVE privacy concerns that ID verification would bring up
What, precisely, do you think it is that you are conserving?
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
Liberty
Degeneracy
Steampunk-Kangaroo said:Unfortunately very true... I'm a conservative but I hate this moral enforcement and censorship stuff.exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
And I'm pretty appalled that they don't seem to care about the MASSIVE privacy concerns that ID verification would bring up
Yeah, it's better to continue to allow kids unfettered access to porn because it might inconvenience some adults. Can't infringe on that sacred right to porn.
#trueconservativevalues
Teslag said:
Liberty
A- define "liberty" as you understand it.
B- liberty to what end?
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
exp said:
This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.
Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.
Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.
Statistically your kid's seen it by 8-9. If your child is a boy there's a 90% chance they'll be addicted by high school unless you just keep them from having a smart phone and keep them out of all schools that allow phones (and mixed in with likeminded parents who don't permit it).
But most of the 'I'll parent my own kids' crowd on here isn't smart enough or capable enough of doing it, nor will they put in that effort. Becuase it's about peers and because porn is addictive on the level of heroin. All the 'but muh freedoms' and 'liberty' crown really have no idea what porn actually does to the brain in terms of addiction and rewiring it. Kids have ED because their body knows the dopamine comes from a little black box with images (not real women - that's what the research says). Too bad y'all can't outsmart your biology, otherwise you might actually have a real argument instead of some abstract intellectual idea of a real thing.
Steampunk-Kangaroo said:
This would be a privacy nightmare. I'm not about to give any website my ID or real name. I really hope it doesn't pass.
They already know who you are with cookies and tracking. Who cares about your ID?
exp said:
Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
I think having rash and pornography in the same conversation is a bad idea...GeorgiAg said:gbaby23 said:
Ban pornography at the federal level.
RebelE Infantry said:Teslag said:
Liberty
A- define "liberty" as you understand it.
B- liberty to what end?
Anything that doesn't cause direct harm to another individual
Andrew Dufresne said:
. . .
Ex: Ted Bundy freely admitted that porn addiction is what set him down the wrong path...
Yeah, but he said it was because Cinemax and France churned out Emmanuel flicks until your eyes bled in the 80s. It would have been funnier if he'd have said it was Judas Priest that led him astray. Pretty cheeky band name Judas Priest.
At least he didn't say the Bible set him off. We'd have to write him off as crazy if he went there.
gbaby23 said:I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.Teslag said:gbaby23 said:Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
Just say you hate liberty and own it
"Hates america"..... but you're encouraging unconstitutional restrictions on your political enemies, and a curtailing of the very first point in the bill of rights. Seems very...anti American to me?
Ag_of_08 said:gbaby23 said:I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.Teslag said:gbaby23 said:Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
Just say you hate liberty and own it
"Hates america"..... but you're encouraging unconstitutional restrictions on your political enemies, and a curtailing of the very first point in the bill of rights. Seems very...anti American to me?
There is no mention of restrictions. He is merely saying it is disgusting when Marxist, communist and Obummer types use the constitution, our own decency and all of the protections the USA affords them as protection while trying to destroy America.
Go back up the thread of the discussion, you'll see he does actually support restrictions. Specifically, he advocates for ejecting anyone that doesn't believe as he does, or restricting their speech.
Which is highly un-American as that freedom of speech is the actual first specific right the founders decided to protect, but...
Which is highly un-American as that freedom of speech is the actual first specific right the founders decided to protect, but...
Faustus said:Andrew Dufresne said:
. . .
Ex: Ted Bundy freely admitted that porn addiction is what set him down the wrong path...
Yeah, but he said it was because Cinemax and France churned out Emmanuel flicks until your eyes bled in the 80s. It would have been funnier if he'd have said it was Judas Priest that led him astray. Pretty cheeky band name JP.
Regardless I think we can all agree with a serial killer's opinion on why he had to kill.
Watching all those Emmanuel movies could lead to more than your eyes bleeding…
But invoking Ted Bundy and other serial killers here and tying it to a porn addiction blatantly ignores that whilst many serial killers have veracious sexual appetites that may factor into their killings, it has little to do with how many booby pics and flics they could get their hand on.
In fact, it would be more appropriate to say that access to porn allows potential serial killers an alternative to release the built up urges.
. When did this happen?TA-OP said:
Cons go from not caring what people do in their private bedrooms to outlawing anything that's not straight marital missionary sex. Remind me again about slippery slopes…
RebelE Infantry said:
Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."
It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.
It's already against the law.
Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.
And how do you expect to beat the our enemies? Those that are already restricting speech and persecuting political enemies while using the Constitution and the Federal bureaucracy as a shield to destroy you and I from within. Do you think these insidious interlopers who do not play by rules will be beaten by restricting yourself? They have already restricted your speech and **** on the Bill of Rights. There will be no honor in this defeat.Ag_of_08 said:gbaby23 said:I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.Teslag said:gbaby23 said:Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.ArcticPenguin said:So freedom really isn't your thinggbaby23 said:This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.Pinochet said:
So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
Just say you hate liberty and own it
"Hates america"..... but you're encouraging unconstitutional restrictions on your political enemies, and a curtailing of the very first point in the bill of rights. Seems very...anti American to me?
Yes, I believe that Communists and Marxists have no place in America and should not be protected by the Bill of Rights. They are enemies of the state and people of this nation by ideology alone. You do not need to let a viper in your house because you have an open door policy for friends and family.Ag_of_08 said:
Go back up the thread of the discussion, you'll see he does actually support restrictions. Specifically, he advocates for ejecting anyone that doesn't believe as he does, or restricting their speech.
Which is highly un-American as that freedom of speech is the actual first specific right the founders decided to protect, but...
Using the Founding Fathers as some sort of justification for complacency towards the enemy is laughable when they would have been watering the Tree of Liberty by now.
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