Texas HB 1181 (porn website age verification bill) preliminarily enjoined

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Pinochet
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So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
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They should bring back the Sear Catalog in the mail again!
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I don't think it should be outlawed, but should only be allowed by law abiding citizens.

There should be a registry where people register who want access to the sites. This will help keep children and known sexual predators off these sites.

Call it 'Common Sense Pornography Control'

If it saves one child...
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gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

No, I was referring to the asshats in this thread who are trying to ban porn completely "at the federal level" because it is destructive and addictive. But you knew that.
Yes, because the benefits of banning it outweigh your need to play with your dick.
I dated a chick once that wanted to watch a little porn together. Usually really cheesy vintage stuff to laugh at, like Deep Throat. However, that wasn't terrible - usually led to other things.

Don't need to ban it at a federal level for all adults.
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Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.
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GeorgiAg said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

No, I was referring to the asshats in this thread who are trying to ban porn completely "at the federal level" because it is destructive and addictive. But you knew that.
Yes, because the benefits of banning it outweigh your need to play with your dick.
I dated a chick once that wanted to watch a little porn together. Usually really cheesy vintage stuff to laugh at, like Deep Throat. However, that wasn't terrible - usually led to other things.

Don't need to ban it at a federal level for all adults.
Congratulations on the sex, man. Weird that you have to watch other people **** to get laid though.
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Scantily clad women are a problem too. Perhaps we could pass a law they need to wear a loose fitting sheet that covers their entire body. Also, their hair can be distracting. Maybe cover their head too.
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GeorgiAg said:

Go live in Saudi Arabia if you want a country like that.


Low IQ take.

We had laws against this filth until very recently. Are you suggesting the USA was some sort of oppressive theocracy until "enlightened minds" unleashed a tidal wave of porn on our culture?

Anyone who is advocating for banning porn is simply repeating the opinion of the majority of Americans from the not so distant past.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
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gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.


Carry Nation still lives, apparently.
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gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
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Pinochet said:

No, I was referring to the asshats in this thread who are trying to ban porn completely "at the federal level" because it is destructive and addictive. But you knew that.
They always show up on these threads.

Their idea of the ideal America is the one from Escape from LA, except it would be ruled from the Vatican.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.
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RebelE Infantry said:

GeorgiAg said:

Go live in Saudi Arabia if you want a country like that.


Low IQ take.

We had laws against this filth until very recently. Are you suggesting the USA was some sort of oppressive theocracy until "enlightened minds" unleashed a tidal wave of porn on our culture?

Anyone who is advocating for banning porn is simply repeating the opinion of the majority of Americans from the not so distant past.


He wants to be governed by his base appetites instead of exercising his rational will to determine what is good and moral. Everybody has to serve somebody. He chooses to serve himself instead of the good of society.

Libertarianism only makes sense if you're a moral relativist that can't make a determination as to what is right and wrong.
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gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.


So we don't care about your freedoms. Got it. Glad we are on the same page.

Request denied.
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Rapier108 said:

Pinochet said:

No, I was referring to the asshats in this thread who are trying to ban porn completely "at the federal level" because it is destructive and addictive. But you knew that.
They always show up on these threads.

Their idea of the ideal America is the one from Escape from LA, except it would be ruled from the Vatican.
No, Vatican is too woke these days.

Probably Joel Osteen's mega mansion is closer to the truth but still not quite there.
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FatZilla said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.


So we don't care about your freedoms. Got it. Glad we are on the same page.

Request denied.
Good to know you are on the side of Marxism.
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On the one hand, I wish there was a functional Republican Party to act as a counterweight in our two party system. On the other hand this kind of ****
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Stmichael said:

Pinochet said:

aggiez03 said:

Every single bill that tries to prevent degeneracy is challenged by the left in this country.

Especially degeneracy with regards to children.

'We just want to have sex with your children, what is the big deal ?'

-signed libs everywhere.




Wait… is porn a degenerate activity?


It absolutely is. It's every bit as addictive and habit forming as cocaine, and the consequences are destructive.


And just like cocaine, I don't think it's the governments job to protect me from it.
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TA-OP said:

Cons go from not caring what people do in their private bedrooms to outlawing anything that's not straight marital missionary sex. Remind me again about slippery slopes…
Meh, realizing how destructive infinite hardcore internet porn is to young males and making it at least a little more difficult to access or bringing awareness to parents is hardly a slippery slope. I get that liberals are ALWAYS vehemently against protecting children from degenerate sexual stuff.
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Philip J Fry said:

Stmichael said:

Pinochet said:

aggiez03 said:

Every single bill that tries to prevent degeneracy is challenged by the left in this country.

Especially degeneracy with regards to children.

'We just want to have sex with your children, what is the big deal ?'

-signed libs everywhere.




Wait… is porn a degenerate activity?


It absolutely is. It's every bit as addictive and habit forming as cocaine, and the consequences are destructive.


And just like cocaine, I don't think it's the governments job to protect me from it.
What about children? I thought this was about children/minors?
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Philip J Fry said:

Stmichael said:

Pinochet said:

aggiez03 said:

Every single bill that tries to prevent degeneracy is challenged by the left in this country.

Especially degeneracy with regards to children.

'We just want to have sex with your children, what is the big deal ?'

-signed libs everywhere.




Wait… is porn a degenerate activity?


It absolutely is. It's every bit as addictive and habit forming as cocaine, and the consequences are destructive.


And just like cocaine, I don't think it's the governments job to protect me from it.


It's not about protecting you from it. It's about protecting society writ large from it. Believe it or not, government has an interest in forming a functional society. One individual doing cocaine or indulging in porn doesn't matter. A society of people engaging in that activity causes tons of problems.

A self governing society has every right to stop people from doing things that are harmful to themselves and society writ large.
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People need to read the laws before they spout stupid opinions. I read an article yesterday about Senate Bill 12, the one that allegedly stops drag queens from reading library books to kids. Of course that bill got so narrowed down you would never make that connection from reading it. One of the reader comments was that the bill would make it a crime to present Shakespeare to kids because in days of yore all actors were male and female characters had to be men in drag.


I don't know how a moral and ethical person would have an issue with Section 43.28 of the Texas Penal Code as modified by SB 12.

Quote:

SECTION 3.
Subchapter B, Chapter 43, Penal Code, is amended by adding Section 43.28 to read as follows:

Sec. 43.28. CERTAIN SEXUALLY ORIENTED PERFORMANCES PROHIBITED. (a) In this section: (1) "Sexual conduct" means: (A) the exhibition or representation, actual or simulated, of sexual acts, including vaginal sex, anal sex, and masturbation; (B) the exhibition or representation, actual or simulated, of male or female genitals in a lewd state, including a state of sexual stimulation or arousal; (C) the exhibition of a device designed and marketed as useful primarily for the sexual stimulation of male or female genitals; (D) actual contact or simulated contact occurring between one person and the buttocks, breast, or any part of the genitals of another person; or (E) the exhibition of sexual gesticulations using accessories or prosthetics that exaggerate male or female sexual characteristics. (2) "Sexually oriented performance" means a visual performance that: (A) features: (i) a performer who is nude, as defined by Section 102.051, Business & Commerce Code; or (ii) any other performer who engages in sexual conduct; and (B) appeals to the prurient interest in sex. (b) A person commits an offense if, regardless of whether compensation for the performance is expected or received, the person engages in a sexually oriented performance: (1) on public property at a time, in a place, and in a manner that could reasonably be expected to be viewed by a child; or (2) in the presence of an individual younger than 18 years of age. (c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.


Liberals need to stop with the hysteria.
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Kvetch said:

Philip J Fry said:

Stmichael said:

Pinochet said:

aggiez03 said:

Every single bill that tries to prevent degeneracy is challenged by the left in this country.

Especially degeneracy with regards to children.

'We just want to have sex with your children, what is the big deal ?'

-signed libs everywhere.




Wait… is porn a degenerate activity?


It absolutely is. It's every bit as addictive and habit forming as cocaine, and the consequences are destructive.


And just like cocaine, I don't think it's the governments job to protect me from it.


It's not about protecting you from it. It's about protecting society writ large from it. Believe it or not, government has an interest in forming a functional society. One individual doing cocaine or indulging in porn doesn't matter. A society of people engaging in that activity causes tons of problems.

A self governing society has every right to stop people from doing things that are harmful to themselves and society writ large.


It's almost like this is the whole point or something…
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
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Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
Andrew Dufresne
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Bottom Line: It's too easy for some children to access porn via the Internet.
Ozzy Osbourne
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Lots of coomers on this thread wants kids to get into porn. If you think the first amendment exists to protect kids access to porn, you need to go back to 3rd grade civics class
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Tex117 said:

YallQueda strikes again.

Wasn't funny the first time and isn't getting better. Childish, moronic, but par for the left. All they have is name calling and screaming. Go back to Reddit where the circle jerk finds that stuff amusing.
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gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.
So freedom really isn't your thing
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TxSquarebody said:

Tex117 said:

YallQueda strikes again.

Wasn't funny the first time and isn't getting better. Childish, moronic, but par for the left. All they have is name calling and screaming. Go back to Reddit where the circle jerk finds that stuff amusing.
You are describing the leading candidate for POTUS by the GOP
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Dimebag Darrell said:

TA-OP said:

Cons go from not caring what people do in their private bedrooms to outlawing anything that's not straight marital missionary sex. Remind me again about slippery slopes…
Meh, realizing how destructive infinite hardcore internet porn is to young males and making it at least a little more difficult to access or bringing awareness to parents is hardly a slippery slope. I get that liberals are ALWAYS vehemently against protecting children from degenerate sexual stuff.
Interesting, becuase I agree with you and I am liberal. I do not want my daughters thinking porn (or their partners) thinking porn is what a sex is supposed to be like. Minors shouldn't have access, just like they shouldn't have access to alcohol, drugs, gambling etc. I think very few people liberal or not disagree with the premise. The question is always lies in the execution and the law of unintended consequences
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Andrew Dufresne said:

Bottom Line: It's too easy for some children to access porn via the Internet.


Amen. That's it.
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This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.

Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.

Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.
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GeorgiAg said:

Andrew Dufresne said:

Bottom Line: It's too easy for some children to access porn via the Internet.


Amen. That's it.
Then parent your kids! Its not the job of a nanny state to do it.
Andrew Dufresne
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The whole easy access to porn era has been detrimental to society.

It's great that you are a caring parent that protects your kids and all, but lil Timmy over there in your daughter's class has been getting mind warped for years by going to pronhub on his completely unlocked tablet. Lil Timmy might grow up to be a dangerous sexual deviant that preys upon the innocent.

Ex: Ted Bundy freely admitted that porn addiction is what set him down the wrong path.. and it's way easier for kids to get porn now than it was then.

ID check for porn sites is fine with me. Feel free to call me a communist.
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ArcticPenguin said:

TxSquarebody said:

Tex117 said:

YallQueda strikes again.

Wasn't funny the first time and isn't getting better. Childish, moronic, but par for the left. All they have is name calling and screaming. Go back to Reddit where the circle jerk finds that stuff amusing.
You are describing the leading candidate for POTUS by the GOP

Also much of the reason most have stopped listening. Maybe he should use another left tactic and just get louder and more unhinged? Nice try, though.
 
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