Texas HB 1181 (porn website age verification bill) preliminarily enjoined

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gbaby23 said:

FatZilla said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.


So we don't care about your freedoms. Got it. Glad we are on the same page.

Request denied.
Good to know you are on the side of Marxism.


It's the communists that banned porn
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul

Big Tech IS the empire of lies

TEXIT
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waitwhat? said:

gbaby23 said:

FatZilla said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.


So we don't care about your freedoms. Got it. Glad we are on the same page.

Request denied.
Good to know you are on the side of Marxism.


It's the communists that banned porn


Obscenity had always been illegal in the US until the sexual revolution made everyone relativistic morons that don't understand what liberty is.
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boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
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Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


They already do that.
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Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


They already do that.
Make it required for all gun purchases and transfers.
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cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?
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waitwhat? said:

gbaby23 said:

FatZilla said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.

Yikes. Don't like political speech? Send them to the gulags!
I do not care about the supposed freedoms of people whose only goal is to destroy America and its people.


So we don't care about your freedoms. Got it. Glad we are on the same page.

Request denied.
Good to know you are on the side of Marxism.


It's the communists that banned porn


The communists of 80 years ago would have called our communists fairies and lined them up against the wall shortly after us
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Ag_of_08 said:

gbaby23 said:

Teslag said:

gbaby23 said:

ArcticPenguin said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.
So freedom really isn't your thing
Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.


Just say you hate liberty and own it
I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.



"Hates america"..... but you're encouraging unconstitutional restrictions on your political enemies, and a curtailing of the very first point in the bill of rights. Seems very...anti American to me?


Are you telling me America was founded as a place without obscenity laws? Or are you one of those "Lawrence v Texas was the real start of America"
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boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Tell me you've never bought a gun without telling me you've never bought a gun
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boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
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Most porn isn't considered obscene.
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Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.
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fka ftc said:

Faustus said:

Andrew Dufresne said:


. . .
Ex: Ted Bundy freely admitted that porn addiction is what set him down the wrong path...


Yeah, but he said it was because Cinemax and France churned out Emmanuel flicks until your eyes bled in the 80s. It would have been funnier if he'd have said it was Judas Priest that led him astray. Pretty cheeky band name JP.

Regardless I think we can all agree with a serial killer's opinion on why he had to kill.


Watching all those Emmanuel movies could lead to more than your eyes bleeding…


But invoking Ted Bundy and other serial killers here and tying it to a porn addiction blatantly ignores that whilst many serial killers have veracious sexual appetites that may factor into their killings, it has little to do with how many booby pics and flics they could get their hand on.

In fact, it would be more appropriate to say that access to porn allows potential serial killers an alternative to release the built up urges.
It could also cause hair to grow on your palms...I heard...
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RebelE Infantry said:

Steampunk-Kangaroo said:

exp said:

Conservatives love freedom until they have a chance to Lord morally superior central planning onto others.
Unfortunately very true... I'm a conservative but I hate this moral enforcement and censorship stuff.

And I'm pretty appalled that they don't seem to care about the MASSIVE privacy concerns that ID verification would bring up


What, precisely, do you think it is that you are conserving?
Freedom of choice, comrade.
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boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
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AGC said:

exp said:

This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.

Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.

Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.


Statistically your kid's seen it by 8-9. If your child is a boy there's a 90% chance they'll be addicted by high school unless you just keep them from having a smart phone and keep them out of all schools that allow phones (and mixed in with likeminded parents who don't permit it).

But most of the 'I'll parent my own kids' crowd on here isn't smart enough or capable enough of doing it, nor will they put in that effort. Becuase it's about peers and because porn is addictive on the level of heroin. All the 'but muh freedoms' and 'liberty' crown really have no idea what porn actually does to the brain in terms of addiction and rewiring it. Kids have ED because their body knows the dopamine comes from a little black box with images (not real women - that's what the research says). Too bad y'all can't outsmart your biology, otherwise you might actually have a real argument instead of some abstract intellectual idea of a real thing.
I am a real woman who watches porn ~4-7 times a week. Nice try.

Yes, real men would be better but until then... (ps that's not an invitation, 99% of y'all are old enough to be my grandfathers and I don't like the way you approach relationships anyway)
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Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
Why not?
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Steampunk-Kangaroo said:

AGC said:

exp said:

This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.

Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.

Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.


Statistically your kid's seen it by 8-9. If your child is a boy there's a 90% chance they'll be addicted by high school unless you just keep them from having a smart phone and keep them out of all schools that allow phones (and mixed in with likeminded parents who don't permit it).

But most of the 'I'll parent my own kids' crowd on here isn't smart enough or capable enough of doing it, nor will they put in that effort. Becuase it's about peers and because porn is addictive on the level of heroin. All the 'but muh freedoms' and 'liberty' crown really have no idea what porn actually does to the brain in terms of addiction and rewiring it. Kids have ED because their body knows the dopamine comes from a little black box with images (not real women - that's what the research says). Too bad y'all can't outsmart your biology, otherwise you might actually have a real argument instead of some abstract intellectual idea of a real thing.
I am a real woman who watches porn ~4-7 times a week. Nice try.

Yes, real men would be better but until then... (ps that's not an invitation, 99% of y'all are old enough to be my grandfathers and I don't like the way you approach relationships anyway)


The true face of conservatism reveals itself as a porn addicted barren millennial fembot
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Steampunk-Kangaroo said:

AGC said:

exp said:

This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.

Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.

Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.


Statistically your kid's seen it by 8-9. If your child is a boy there's a 90% chance they'll be addicted by high school unless you just keep them from having a smart phone and keep them out of all schools that allow phones (and mixed in with likeminded parents who don't permit it).

But most of the 'I'll parent my own kids' crowd on here isn't smart enough or capable enough of doing it, nor will they put in that effort. Becuase it's about peers and because porn is addictive on the level of heroin. All the 'but muh freedoms' and 'liberty' crown really have no idea what porn actually does to the brain in terms of addiction and rewiring it. Kids have ED because their body knows the dopamine comes from a little black box with images (not real women - that's what the research says). Too bad y'all can't outsmart your biology, otherwise you might actually have a real argument instead of some abstract intellectual idea of a real thing.
I am a real woman who watches porn ~4-7 times a week. Nice try.

Yes, real men would be better but until then... (ps that's not an invitation, 99% of y'all are old enough to be my grandfathers and I don't like the way you approach relationships anyway)
Go on...
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Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?

That's easy "child" is already defined in the law.
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cecil77 said:

Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?

That's easy "child" is already defined in the law.


Who defined it?
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Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
Just because you say that doesn't make it true.

Currently, there is a right to porn and it's protected by the 1st amendment.
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Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?

That's easy "child" is already defined in the law.


Who defined it?

Society and culture in general (this could also locally apply to porn) but then codified in law - which is where "porn" becomes problematic.
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Steampunk-Kangaroo said:

AGC said:

exp said:

This thread proves that people on the right want thy state to protect them as much as people on the left.

Power corrupts and once people have it they want to use it.

Screw all you nanny state loving wimps. I'll make sure my kids are safe. Don't need a politician sorting that out for me.


Statistically your kid's seen it by 8-9. If your child is a boy there's a 90% chance they'll be addicted by high school unless you just keep them from having a smart phone and keep them out of all schools that allow phones (and mixed in with likeminded parents who don't permit it).

But most of the 'I'll parent my own kids' crowd on here isn't smart enough or capable enough of doing it, nor will they put in that effort. Becuase it's about peers and because porn is addictive on the level of heroin. All the 'but muh freedoms' and 'liberty' crown really have no idea what porn actually does to the brain in terms of addiction and rewiring it. Kids have ED because their body knows the dopamine comes from a little black box with images (not real women - that's what the research says). Too bad y'all can't outsmart your biology, otherwise you might actually have a real argument instead of some abstract intellectual idea of a real thing.
I am a real woman who watches porn ~4-7 times a week. Nice try.

Yes, real men would be better but until then... (ps that's not an invitation, 99% of y'all are old enough to be my grandfathers and I don't like the way you approach relationships anyway)


Yeah, 4-7 times a weeks is a legit problem. I've been there before but I was also a horny, single 15 year old boy.
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gbaby23 said:

Ag_of_08 said:

gbaby23 said:

Teslag said:

gbaby23 said:

ArcticPenguin said:

gbaby23 said:

Pinochet said:

So the benefits of banning alcohol outweigh your need to get drunk. Let's outlaw alcohol. There are countries that won't mind depriving you of your freedom of speech (or any other god-given rights). You should move there.
This Libertarian mindset is exactly the reason this country has devolved in state of ruin. Pornography is destructive and has no place in society. The current alcohol culture is the same and I wouldn't mind if it was banned until we got a handle on that too. I would also support restricting the speech of all Marxists and Communists, but the preferable plan would be to send them elsewhere.
So freedom really isn't your thing
Letting nefarious actors use the Constitution as a shield to infiltrate and destroy our country isn't my thing.


Just say you hate liberty and own it
I hate liberty for Marxists, Communists, and anyone else who hates America.



"Hates america"..... but you're encouraging unconstitutional restrictions on your political enemies, and a curtailing of the very first point in the bill of rights. Seems very...anti American to me?
And how do you expect to beat the our enemies? Those that are already restricting speech and persecuting political enemies while using the Constitution and the Federal bureaucracy as a shield to destroy you and I from within. Do you think these insidious interlopers who do not play by rules will be beaten by restricting yourself? They have already restricted your speech and **** on the Bill of Rights. There will be no honor in this defeat.


The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
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cecil77 said:

Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?

That's easy "child" is already defined in the law.


Who defined it?

Society and culture in general (this could also locally apply to porn) but then codified in law - which is where "porn" becomes problematic.


Okay, those same people would be the ones who would decide what is porn and what isn't porn. That's how things are done. I find it infantile when people act like determining limits to things is somehow beyond our capacity as a nation.
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boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
Just because you say that doesn't make it true.

Currently, there is a right to porn and it's protected by the 1st amendment.


There is no right to own slaves yet at one time the law pretended to make it so. Discuss
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Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Dies Irae said:

cecil77 said:

Who gets to decide what "pornography" is?


Who gets to decide what "child pornography" is?

That's easy "child" is already defined in the law.


Who defined it?
It was either Samuel Johnson Jr or Noah Webster...there's some disagreement over which one was first.
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Dies Irae said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
Just because you say that doesn't make it true.

Currently, there is a right to porn and it's protected by the 1st amendment.


There is no right to own slaves yet at one time the law pretended to make it so. Discuss
Why would there not be a right to porn?

I'm not talking watching on the bus or showing it to kids in school...
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Andrew Dufresne said:

Bottom Line: It's too easy for some children to access porn via the Internet.


This is 100% correct.

This thread went off the rails when someone started talking about full federal ban for all. That's a completely different conversation.
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AgRyan04 said:

dp
This is funny on a thread about porn...
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Ag with kids said:

Dies Irae said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

Kvetch said:

boboguitar said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Wanting to restrict access to porn for minors is now "nanny state."

It is so incredibly over for whatever passes for conservatism these days. Very sad.


It's already against the law.

Can we restrict guns purchases in the same manner? Age verification with ID that has to be stored n a database. You know, for the children.


Show where porn is in the second amendment.
First amendment.


You find that one in the penumbras? Because obscenity has never been protected speech.
And the supreme court has drawn a line between porn and obscenity. It considers the former protected speech.


The Supreme Court also wrongly considered abortion to be a protected right based on laughable contortions of the law. Hence my comment about the penumbras.

There is no right to porn. Any argument otherwise is just silly. There is especially no right to anonymous porn.
Just because you say that doesn't make it true.

Currently, there is a right to porn and it's protected by the 1st amendment.


There is no right to own slaves yet at one time the law pretended to make it so. Discuss
Why would there not be a right to porn?

I'm not talking watching on the bus or showing it to kids in school...


You do not have a right to evil, and some things are intrinsically evil. For an off the wall comparison, it's why you can't have sex with your horse even though it is your property.

Porn is intrinsically evil and leads to societal contagion.
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Dies Irae said:





You do not have a right to evil, and some things are intrinsically evil. For an off the wall comparison, it's why you can't have sex with your horse even though it is your property.

Porn is intrinsically evil and leads to societal contagion.
Excuse me? I have never been told this. Does it apply to all barnyard animals? Asking for a friend...
 
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