Student loan tears

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pdc093
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5:14p, 6/30/23

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In reply to Greener Acres • 5:21p, 6/30/23
Greener Acres said:
These tweets are funny, but I encourage everybody to read Gorsuch's opinion. He's a clever and concise writer. The conservatives have always pulled responsible adults into the fold, or people who finally become responsible, through well measured and rationale policies. The dreamy, utopian world view of young progressives eventually clashes with reality and that's were conservative policies shine.

Read the opinion (Here), so you can rebut these people with sound critiques. Gorsuch lays out the hypocrisy in Sotomayer's dissent and explains how she argues against her own point. Memes may win the day, but well-reasoned argument wins the war.
Unfortunately, we're at the point where reason doesn't matter anymore. They call conservatives "close minded, but the left has moved to a position of framing the argument so that it can't be won with persuasion and changing the meaning of language so they can't lose. For example,
Quote:
Leftist: The US is systemically racist.
Me: Not it's not, because [gives reasoned position.]
Leftist: The fact that you can't see how systemically racist this US means you're racist, and I can disregard your arguments.
That's essentially woke ideology in a nut-shell. It has nothing to do with well-reasoned argument.
Paper. An insane deer. Taco meat.
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Big Al 1992
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5:24p, 6/30/23
Of the 3 liberal justices, Kagan is thought to be the smartest - and she wrote this!! How Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch listen to this gibberish I have no idea.

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In reply to rgag12 • 5:26p, 6/30/23
rgag12 said:
Get a load of this gem

Sounds to me like she should have taken a few finance/accounting courses while she was there.

More proof that just because a person has college degrees, they don't necessarily equate to smarts or common sense.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 5:28p, 6/30/23
GeorgiAg said:
Things getting a little violent over there.




plittle chicken needs to get on with it, and we can let nature take its course.
"Green" is the new RED.
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In reply to TRM • 5:32p, 6/30/23
Gets even worse.

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PRIVILEGE: Failed Congressional candidate Alessandra Biaggi @Biaggi4NY is complaining that American taxpayers aren't willing to pay off her student loans. Alessandra is the privileged granddaughter of a US Congressman. She struggled through four of the most expensive private universities in the world in her pursuit of an education - finally graduating from Fordham Law School with $180,000 in student debt.

Since then she's worked as a lawyer making over $832,684 between 2014 and 2023. Despite that, she elected not to even pay the interest on her loans causing the balance owed to balloon to $206,000.

Ironically, at her first job, she made $273,684 as Assistant General Counsel for New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo. If she had remained in that job (without pay increases) she'd have made $2,463,156 to date. Instead, she chose to work in politics for Hillary Clinton's campaign making just $85,000 in 2016, and then served in the New York State Senate making just $110,000.

Alessandra could have easily paid off her loans if she chose even making just $832,684 but she decided not to pay them off. She decided not to maximize her income by making $2.5M. She should be allowed to make those choices - but she shouldn't be allowed to expect taxpayers to pay for the loans she wasn't willing to pay off.
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In reply to Old Sarge • 5:33p, 6/30/23
Old Sarge said:
GeorgiAg said:
Things getting a little violent over there.




plittle chicken needs to get on with it, and we can let nature take its course.
Get balls like the French?
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In reply to pdc093 • 5:34p, 6/30/23
pdc093 said:

Biden can go to hell.
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6:12p, 6/30/23
Op making a tears thread about a policy he voted for....


Big brain on that one
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6:15p, 6/30/23
I'm surprised the draft opinion didn't leak on this one.
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In reply to annie88 • 6:21p, 6/30/23
annie88 said:
pdc093 said:

Biden can go to hell.


Biden WILL go to hell. FIFY!
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 6:25p, 6/30/23
Yes. This is exactly what Hussein wanted. It gave government a huge carrot to use against dummies. He hopes they'll revolt.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 7:14p, 6/30/23
GeorgiAg said:
This Trump Supreme Court flip is entertaining as hell to me.
Despite all his personal and professional failings, Donald Trump is the best Supreme Court nominator that this country has ever had. That alone makes it worth it to have voted for him in 2016.
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In reply to GenXAg • 7:23p, 6/30/23
GenXAg said:
My generation was the start of the problem. Student loans in the 90's were easy to get and payment options were very lenient. It took me nearly 10 years to pay back my $25K in student loans. It was a great feeling when I finally sent that last check. I knew when I signed them they had to be paid back. Everyone does and if you aren't smart enough to realize that only paying interest or less will never get them paid off, quite frankly, you're too dumb to attend college anyways, you need to go back to Jr. High.

Off the top of my head, I know 3 people I attended A&M with in the 90's that are still paying back their student loans 25 years later and aren't anywhere close to paying them off. They get deferments and pay the absolute minimum every chance they get. 2 are educators teaching my kids generation and I guarantee you they aren't teaching them the correct way to pay for your schooling. All 3 post on social media constantly about how much they owe and how unfair it is. I looked earlier and yep, all 3 are having a melt down today about the ruling. Funny thing is, I know 2 of them visit TexAgs regularly and are probably reading this.

In any case, this is my prediction. Hopefully student loan forgiveness dies and goes away. Hopefully we have enough responsible people left in this country that it never happens. That being said, people my age are already starting to die off. I go to more and more funerals every year for friends near my age. If all these people that are my age (45 to 55 years old) start dying off in greater numbers while still owing the same or more than they borrowed 25 to 35 years ago, if I'm not mistaken the banks can't collect on those loans from the estate. If that is the case, the banks are going to have to start absorbing those losses at increasingly higher rates and that along with already shaky loan portfolios is going to just add to a collapsing banking industry that is already having to be propped up by the government. Hold on to your seats boys and girls, loan forgiveness is going to happen the hard way once my generation and beyond start dying off.

The banks don't own the loans anymore. Obama put an end to that. There are other entities in the servicing business for student loans, but those aren't banks.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 7:24p, 6/30/23
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I'm surprised the draft opinion didn't leak on this one.

What makes you think the Biden admin didn't have it and wasn't using it to formulate their response?
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 7:32p, 6/30/23
Biaggi... don't go away mad... just go away... but never forget to pay off your debts.
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7:36p, 6/30/23
This is a bad ruling for our country
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 7:39p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
This is a bad ruling for our country
Suck it, freeloader!
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 7:46p, 6/30/23
Why?
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 7:56p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
This is a bad ruling for our country
Hedge, no surprise you'd think that way.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:11p, 6/30/23
Hedge is a right wing nut, I'm not even close to right wing. I'm sick of you calling me hedge. I'm an ardent liberal
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8:28p, 6/30/23
Funny watching Gen Z influencers claiming that they're the ones bearing most of the brunt of the loss of student loan relief while they'd actually be the least benefitted group outside of Boomers.
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8:29p, 6/30/23
If you change your name to "opposite ag" and everything you say will make sense!
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 8:34p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
Hedge is a right wing nut, I'm not even close to right wing. I'm sick of you calling me hedge. I'm an ardent liberal


You gonna be okay? Relax, drink a Bud Light, and call it a day.
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In reply to Pinochet • 8:35p, 6/30/23
Pinochet said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I'm surprised the draft opinion didn't leak on this one.
What makes you think the Biden admin didn't have it and wasn't using it to formulate their response?
True.

The entire SC building is probably wiretapped.
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 8:36p, 6/30/23
Big Al 1992 said:
Of the 3 liberal justices, Kagan is thought to be the smartest - and she wrote this!! How Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch listen to this gibberish I have no idea.



We are lucky. Scalia convinced Axelrod Obama should nominate her vice some of the other far lefties.
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 8:39p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
Hedge is a right wing nut, I'm not even close to right wing. I'm sick of you calling me hedge. I'm an ardent liberal
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 8:49p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
Hedge is a right wing nut, I'm not even close to right wing. I'm sick of you calling me hedge. I'm an ardent liberal


Sheesh. Repay your own debts you freeloading bum.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 9:02p, 6/30/23
MarathonAg12 said:
I received a 4 year army scholarship. Don't know how the student loan repayment works.

The options are there if you work hard enough for them.


Not going into it, but I also received a 4 year scholarship and had to enlist. (Long story). I believe though that instead of the Montgomery GI Bill you could have opted for student loan repayment instead.
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In reply to JABQ04 • 9:05p, 6/30/23
Interesting. Currently using my Post 9-11 for grad school.

All sorts of avenues for this I guess.
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 9:10p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
This is a bad ruling for our country


Guess you'll just have to stay in your mom's basement even longer.
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 9:14p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
This is a bad ruling for our country
You'll have to explain - not just troll and run.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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In reply to pdc093 • 9:25p, 6/30/23
pdc093 said:

Now it is time for the Republicans to start filing lawsuits as to Biden again trying to circumvent Congress.

Time to start using the Democratic playbook against them.
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In reply to Bexar Ag • 9:29p, 6/30/23
Bexar Ag said:
This is a good ruling for our country
FIFY
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In reply to APHIS AG • 9:59p, 6/30/23
APHIS AG said:
pdc093 said:

Now it is time for the Republicans to start filing lawsuits as to Biden again trying to circumvent Congress.

Time to start using the Democratic playbook against them.


Nobody has any standing /libs
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