Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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P.U.T.U said:

USA was solely on the Iran side until 1982 and then we started providing intelligence to Iraq. Pretty much every time we got involved in a conflict since 1950 we messed it up more
US and Iran broke off relations in 1979 when they overran the embassy. The Islamic Republic of Iran has hated us since then...intelligence to Iraq didn't change anything.

What are you claiming was different from 1979-1982?
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

72 Sq Km will look smaller/larger depending on zoom, yes, but it still 72 Sq Km.

Not a ton of land, but a noticeable increase for anyone who is not plugging their ears and declaring "stalemate"


So in a year Russia has taken roughly the same amount of land Ukraine has taken from Russia…

I wonder if there's a term for that…
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

72 Sq Km will look smaller/larger depending on zoom, yes, but it still 72 Sq Km.

Not a ton of land, but a noticeable increase for anyone who is not plugging their ears and declaring "stalemate"


So in a year Russia has taken roughly the same amount of land Ukraine has taken from Russia…

I wonder if there's a term for that…


What map are you looking at where this is true?
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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ISW. Russias gains this year have largely been offset by Ukraine's foothold in Kursk.
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ISW. Russias gains this year have largely been offset by Ukraine's foothold in Kursk.
100% delusional nonsense.

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Or I'm capable of simply comparing the size of numbers. It's not hard. Ukraine has gained 500 square miles in Kursk. Russia has gained a little more than that in Ukraine over the past year.
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Sitrep:




Meh, a comparatively slow day, for this week. Zelensky begging for more of everything in Munich, and apparently being told 'nothing is guaranteed forever.'
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nortex... how many of these sites were your sources?

Russia Used a Fake Investor to Dupe Influencers, US Says (msn.com)
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wtmartinaggie said:

nortex... how many of these sites were your sources?

Russia Used a Fake Investor to Dupe Influencers, US Says (msn.com)
None of them. I mean, I will link to RT when it has an interesting angle, but I think that is…pretty clear for what it is, and only a handful have been confused by that over the years of this war. I'd never even heard of "Tenet Media.". I noted on the main thread about the latest Russia Russia Russia hoax that the folks targeted were generally anti-Trump, for some reason. That's who Blaze media fired. Heck, I've linked to Tass and Ukrainian Pravda too quite a few times. I don't mean to be rude, but if you only want news sources that support your position/views 100 percent of the time…I'm probably not the person to ask.

For instance, we don't get a lot of coverage in approved sites of admissions like this from Syrsky:
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Ukraine is sending fresh troops with only limited training to the conflict front line, Kiev's top general, Aleksandr Syrsky, has acknowledged. He made the comment as his troops struggle to contain Russian advances in Donbass.

In a rare interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour on Thursday, Syrsky confirmed media reports about Ukraine's ongoing manpower problems despite the government's recent push to boost mobilization.
While stressing that Kiev "wants the level of training to be the best" and is trying to pursue programs aimed at fostering highly qualified professional military personnel, the general admitted that "the dynamics at the front require us to put conscripted servicemen into service as soon as possible."

According to Syrsky, who replaced his predecessor, Valery Zaluzhny, in February, new recruits receive one month of basic military training and two to four weeks of specialized training before deployment. However, reservists usually have previous army experience.
I'm sure if I rooted around I could find the full puff piece on CNN (btw Amanpour has never sat down with a dictator she didn't fawn over), but it's not worth it to me. In truth, Garland's show is just part of the State Department's (and CIA) long-term program to censor what Americans see/hear. As is the situation in Brazil (about which the State Department has said not a word):



Despite what my fan club will say about me here/elsewhere, I am not a particular fan of Putin himself (though I think the 'unprovoked' insanity is laughable at best), but I do not buy the narrative about Ukraine/Zelensky being the good guys/victims here, at all. The link/accusation Garland really was making is just Russia Hoax 3.0:



I've seen some pretty nasty videos of Ukrainians who released Russian prisoners to be chased by an explosive drone on foot today, and it is too disgusting to link to. They're also somehow still proudly looting that one grocery store in Sudzha, on camera. Lovely people.
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And that is not all there is to this, and if you don't know that then I can't help you.

By the way are you part of the 10th group Special forces out Fort Carson?
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wtmartinaggie said:

nortex... how many of these sites were your sources?

Russia Used a Fake Investor to Dupe Influencers, US Says (msn.com)
And I'll ask you where your 'sources' are coming from and MSN is probably the most corrupt source out there. LOL
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Does anyone know what is happening in this video?


Don't tell me what it isn't (forced mobilization) but tell me what it is?
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Does anyone know what is happening in this video?


Don't tell me what it isn't (forced mobilization) but tell me what it is?
Those are Russians.
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Sometimes, it's the little things that are the real give-away;

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OPAG said:

And that is not all there is to this, and if you don't know that then I can't help you.

By the way are you part of the 10th group Special forces out Fort Carson?


Nope. Fell under 5th group as part of SOJTF in northern Iraq and Syria in 2021. To be clear I was not nor have ever been SF nor ever went through selection. Only there to provide them with logistical support.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Does anyone know what is happening in this video?


Don't tell me what it isn't (forced mobilization) but tell me what it is?


I can't say with certainty what's happening in the video, but I think it's likely being used to embarrass gullible people on the internet
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Teslag said:

OPAG said:

And that is not all there is to this, and if you don't know that then I can't help you.

By the way are you part of the 10th group Special forces out Fort Carson?


Nope. Fell under 5th group as part of SOJTF in northern Iraq and Syria in 2021. To be clear I was not nor have ever been SF nor ever went through selection. Only there to provide them with logistical support.


You'll never be governor of Minnesota with that kind of honesty. Could have just said "yes" and worn a hat
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GAC06 said:

Teslag said:

OPAG said:

And that is not all there is to this, and if you don't know that then I can't help you.

By the way are you part of the 10th group Special forces out Fort Carson?


Nope. Fell under 5th group as part of SOJTF in northern Iraq and Syria in 2021. To be clear I was not nor have ever been SF nor ever went through selection. Only there to provide them with logistical support.


You'll never be governor of Minnesota with that kind of honesty. Could have just said "yes" and worn a hat
So, he shouldn't say he's a Corporal Captain? It's a new rank they're trying out...
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GAC06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Does anyone know what is happening in this video?


Don't tell me what it isn't (forced mobilization) but tell me what it is?


I can't say with certainty what's happening in the video, but I think it's likely being used to embarrass gullible people on the internet


I'm certain you're correct. "Those are Russians" was a pretty embarrassing take.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Does anyone know what is happening in this video?


Don't tell me what it isn't (forced mobilization) but tell me what it is?


I can't say with certainty what's happening in the video, but I think it's likely being used to embarrass gullible people on the internet


I'm certain you're correct. "Those are Russians" was a pretty embarrassing take.
If they weren't Russians, who were they?
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Sitrep: Grind continues. Russians appear to be flattening out/encircling the area around Pokrovsk, and UFA pulled the 72nd from the Kursk pocket to this area to reinforce it. Lying Drunk called out by his subordinate commander?
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A clearly intoxicated Syrsky gave an interview to a medicated Amanpour, admitting the reinforcement of Pokrovsk with new reserves, though he lies that Russia has not advanced at all in the past week, which it clearly has:

In fact, a commander of the 47th Brigade, Mykola Melnyk openly contradicted his C-in-C by reporting just how much Russians have actually advanced:

A long discussion of the Ukrainian 'migration' situation into Europe, funding situation with the military, and Russian losses is good. In short, the Ukrainian situation heading into winter is desperate, both militarily and economically, as one might expect if following along with this war. That's why Zelensky is so desperate to end it asap, though not allowed to do so until mid November of course.

On the evolution of Russian drone/artillery operations. Long post, I recommend opening it up:


Pushback from the right in Germany:


Will try to post some more later, a lot of stuff out there this weekend about this forever war.
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Is this true?



West side of the Dniepr?





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Fits a pretty consistent pattern of Ukrainian incompetence/corruption.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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Are you aware of what 10th Special forces designated area of concern is?
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No and I don't particularly give a ***** I only care about my responsibilities and what my down trace units need. In Syria we were up close to Russian ops. I know what they are and what they are about.

Savage animals all of them.
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OPAG said:

Are you aware of what 10th Special forces designated area of concern is?
What does that have to do with the subject of this thread?
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10th group SF area of concern is Eastern Europe, Russia and Ukraine.
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OPAG said:

10th group SF area of concern is Eastern Europe, Russia and Ukraine.
Ok.

Again, what does that have to do with the subject of this thread?
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That is the only US based intelligence (Mil or otherwise) that has any clue about what is really going on in that arena and has been since the onset. Figure it out. LOL




















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OPAG said:

That is the only US based intelligence (Mil or otherwise) that has any clue about what is really going on in that arena and has been since the onset. Figure it out. LOL





















That's nice. I'm proud of them and wish them well.

What's your point?

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No point, except I was given permission to point that fact out. LOL
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You needed permission to post something you read on Wikipedia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Special_Forces_Group_(United_States)


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I guess we found the high level source
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Tucker and Tulsi discuss opposition to the war on Russia, and how she was jettisoned from the Dem War party machine for speaking out against forever wars, and of course Dick Cheney's endorsement of the War Party Ticket (which Kamala dutifully embraced);



'All your children are belong to us' sure sounds vaguely familiar;

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Sure, if you say so!
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