Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)
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samurai_science said:
Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia won't have the ability to push against superior weaponry. It's no longer 1943. Wars are won with weapons, not superior manpower.
Lots of predictions, we will see. Men take and hold ground, not weapons.Teslag said:samurai_science said:
Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia won't have the ability to push against superior weaponry. It's no longer 1943. Wars are won with weapons, not superior manpower.
Men with superior weapons hold ground. War has changed.
Not really
Additionally, manpower shortages are stretching the lines thin. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a law Tuesday that is aimed at overhauling mobilization rules, effectively making it possible to bring even older troops into a war already being fought by soldiers with an average age over 40.
Additionally, manpower shortages are stretching the lines thin. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a law Tuesday that is aimed at overhauling mobilization rules, effectively making it possible to bring even older troops into a war already being fought by soldiers with an average age over 40.
Yes, really
Ukraine proudly used a cruise missile to strike at a 100-year old salvage ship in port.
Good summary from Mike:
The "good guys" people/Democrats are excited to arm;
I do wonder if saint Zelensky the beautiful has cut down on his take:
RCP: Administration should be honest (LOL) with Kiev.
Supposedly the 117th Mechanized brigade (UFA) just gave up its positions/left (or 67th?), allowing a large Russian advance, around Ocheretyne.
▪️Ukraine claims it used Neptune cruise missile, existing in small numbers, launched as fast as they're made with NATO help;
— Brian Berletic (@BrianJBerletic) April 22, 2024
▪️Such strikes are purely for PR which is why Forbes/others upgraded Kommuna to "warship";
Good summary from Mike:
If you think it's even close to being over, you don't get it yet. No matter what happens this year, the Seize Eurasia master plan & the Ukraine pivot point war will rage on for 70 yrs. If a deal is struck, we'll simply shift from formal DOD military to deniable CIA paramilitary. https://t.co/2UrHHooIGl pic.twitter.com/55RpImxSo1
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) April 22, 2024
The "good guys" people/Democrats are excited to arm;
I find it hilarious how the Left accuse Trump supporters of being “Nazis”, and then celebrate sending hundreds of billions of our tax dollars to Ukraine…
— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) April 21, 2024
Ukraine’s military is the only military on Earth with literal Nazi regiments… 😂
The lack of awareness is astonishing. pic.twitter.com/LYVOCbHzW9
I do wonder if saint Zelensky the beautiful has cut down on his take:
“People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.”
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) April 21, 2024
— top Ukrainian official to TIME Magazine (once the tape recorder was turned off) pic.twitter.com/Lal4MvHHpD
RCP: Administration should be honest (LOL) with Kiev.
That ain't gonna happen.Quote:
While complex and advanced systems like tanks, armored personnel carriers, and sophisticated anti-air weapons are important for Ukraine's ability to fight back, the United States is struggling just to produce enough of the relatively simple artillery ammunition that Kyiv relies on to push back Russian front lines. In early 2023, American factories were producing just over 3,000 155mm artillery shells a month. As Ukraine's needs became more apparent, factories surged production working overtime to up production to 28,000 a month, or 336,000 a year. Ukraine fired 6,000 shells a day during its counteroffensive, and could need over 2,100,000 shells a year to maintain the kind of high intensity effort that failed to push back Russian forces last year. These hard realities lead many to question the feasibility of Ukraine retaking the rest of their territory from Russia.
It remains unlikely that lawmakers will pass another multi-billion dollar package filled with advanced weapon systems and an open-ended resupply of munitions. Going into an election year, lawmakers are more likely to back significantly smaller support focused on providing the material and construction supplies for hardening Ukraine's front lines. The White House could help Kyiv weather further Russian offensives and reduce the risk of losing further territory by encouraging Ukraine to build more lines of fortified positions, digging trenches, laying minefields, and placing "dragon's teeth" tank traps. The resources needed for this approach are substantially more affordable and easier to source and most importantly, they're far more realistic than further tranches of expensive military hardware.
While Ukraine has professed a desire to expel all Russian forces and return to its pre-2014 borders, the success of this approach appears increasingly unlikely as Russia taps into vast resources and a significant population for a long war. Ukraine is already struggling to find fighting age men to rotate troops and continue its efforts. As unpleasant as it may be, Kyiv must begin considering what negotiations with its aggressor could look like, and what could be acceptable and realistic terms for a ceasefire. Though any pause in fighting would give Moscow the opportunity to resupply and prepare for further fighting, the same is true for Kyiv and its partners in Europe that are still supplying arms.
Supposedly the 117th Mechanized brigade (UFA) just gave up its positions/left (or 67th?), allowing a large Russian advance, around Ocheretyne.
We wrote about it here:https://t.co/aOrg47te2P
— MilitaryLand.net (@Militarylandnet) April 21, 2024
Oh man that’s going to be devastating https://t.co/DSrgEAJ6I7
— ayden (@squatsons) April 21, 2024
I didn't catch this surrender of a US Air base to Russians yesterday in all the celebrations about crushing Russia with the "aid" bill to prolong the proxy war against Russia:
And Chad:
I think this comparison is a misnomer as American aid for instance is providing much higher cost items (on a unit basis) than what Russia is producing:
For freedom and democracy!
WAR: Niger’s Russian-backed military junta has agreed to release 1,000 US troops it was effectively holding hostage in exchange for Biden’s agreement to turn over our $100M airbase to Niger and Russian forces. The US media will barely mention this humiliation today. pic.twitter.com/UpmnsMMI2g
— @amuse (@amuse) April 21, 2024
And Chad:
I said yesterday: watch for the Russian presence and Chinese capital in Niger-Chad-Burkina Faso. #DragonBear #Velsig https://t.co/hbEtwIrp7L
— Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) April 22, 2024
I think this comparison is a misnomer as American aid for instance is providing much higher cost items (on a unit basis) than what Russia is producing:
"Russia’s military spending increased by 24% to an estimated $109 billion in 2023, marking a 57% rise since 2014, the year that Russia annexed Crimea. In 2023, Russia’s military spending made up 16% of total government spending, and its military burden (military spending as a…
— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) April 22, 2024
🇺🇦 HEARTLESS MANHUNT IN UKRAINE!
— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) April 22, 2024
The amount of such mobilization videos drastically increased recently.
He needs to “protect NATO” as Zelensky said. pic.twitter.com/LZrXZ9urBL
For freedom and democracy!
samurai_science said:Lots of predictions, we will see. Men take and hold ground, not weapons.Teslag said:samurai_science said:
Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia won't have the ability to push against superior weaponry. It's no longer 1943. Wars are won with weapons, not superior manpower.
It always tough talk from that poster. Never mind Uke actively losing ground. The best is when he says the lines are frozen and Russia advances/takes a new town in the very next update. "All hat no cattle" comes to mind.
PlaneCrashGuy said:samurai_science said:Lots of predictions, we will see. Men take and hold ground, not weapons.Teslag said:samurai_science said:
Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia won't have the ability to push against superior weaponry. It's no longer 1943. Wars are won with weapons, not superior manpower.
It always tough talk from that poster. Never mind Uke actively losing ground. The best is when he says the lines are frozen and Russia advances/takes a new town in the very next update. "All hat no cattle" comes to mind.
I said Russia was incapable of an offensive and was proven correct with their ineptitude these past four months. A few miles and a handful of small towns is no better than what Ukraine did last summer. And with aid Russia's window has closed. The very aid package you routinely mocked me for by asking when it would come…
Teslag said:PlaneCrashGuy said:samurai_science said:Lots of predictions, we will see. Men take and hold ground, not weapons.Teslag said:samurai_science said:
Going to be a long summer as Russia pushes and then when the 61 billion does not magically restore Ukraines manpower out of thin air we will hear the calls start asking for more.
Russia won't have the ability to push against superior weaponry. It's no longer 1943. Wars are won with weapons, not superior manpower.
It always tough talk from that poster. Never mind Uke actively losing ground. The best is when he says the lines are frozen and Russia advances/takes a new town in the very next update. "All hat no cattle" comes to mind.
I said Russia was incapable of an offensive and was proven correct with their ineptitude these past four months. A few miles and a handful of small towns is no better than what Ukraine did last summer. And with aid Russia's window has closed. The very aid package you routinely mocked me for by asking when it would come…
You just redefine words to mean something they don't. its the tell tale sign you're lying. "Russia can't mount an offensive. I was proven correct when they gained ground"
Sorry, no you weren't. Continuing to repeat your lies into your next ban wont change the facts.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/21/house-approves-61bn-aid-for-ukraine-what-we-know-so-far-and-what-happens-next
Once senate approves this aid will be in Ukraine within days. And of course the article quotes the gnashing of teeth and tantrums by the Russians. With good reason. They know what's coming.
In the next few weeks you'll begin to see the usual Russian state supported media types begin the "this aid won't matter" narrative in a heeping helping of copiium. Just wait.
Once senate approves this aid will be in Ukraine within days. And of course the article quotes the gnashing of teeth and tantrums by the Russians. With good reason. They know what's coming.
In the next few weeks you'll begin to see the usual Russian state supported media types begin the "this aid won't matter" narrative in a heeping helping of copiium. Just wait.
Let's hope Teslag's predictions on the war are better than his position is/was on the Covid vax.
https://t.co/tN50UoDM4C pic.twitter.com/7HgxnxCFZt
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) April 22, 2024
This is a funny meme, because it is so true. But isn't it strange how Uke can repeat "Russia has no ability to mount an offensive" while admitting they've been gaining ground and also declaring "America is next if we don't stop them now"
The conflicting narrative is the plain-on-its-face proof they are lying. No one cared about the most corrupt country in Europe until CNN told them to.
Who has said the US is next if we don't stop Russia in Ukraine?
Look at the tweet you're replying to
But you said the same people declaring russia can't mount an offensive were also saying america is next. Who are they?
Teslag said:
But you said the same people declaring russia can't mount an offensive were also saying america is next. Who are they?
Ukraine supporters. What are you even doing except trolling?
I'm just asking who made the comment that Russia can't mount an offensive and the US next.
Teslag said:
I'm just asking who made the comment that Russia can't mount an offensive and the US next.
Then look at the tweet.
I did. Where did she say that Russia can't mount an offensive?
Teslag said:
I did. Where did she say that Russia can't mount an offensive?
" Different Uke supporters are saying different things" was the whole point I was making.
If you were all spreading the truth, your message would be uniform because there's only one truth.
So much for the 'tide being turned' by the 'big' aid package.
Maybe some 'advisors' under Xiden's command can be airlifted from Niger/Chad.
Source: https://t.co/JvFzqAX5Ij
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) April 22, 2024
for people who do not know how important Ocheretino is.
— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) April 22, 2024
it dominates the whole area and will give Russian forces the opportunity to spread out in all directions.
I would call that a breakthrough. https://t.co/nTW8toRNyR pic.twitter.com/CmE0tIcvv9
Maybe some 'advisors' under Xiden's command can be airlifted from Niger/Chad.
Teslag said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/21/house-approves-61bn-aid-for-ukraine-what-we-know-so-far-and-what-happens-next
Once senate approves this aid will be in Ukraine within days. And of course the article quotes the gnashing of teeth and tantrums by the Russians. With good reason. They know what's coming.
In the next few weeks you'll begin to see the usual Russian state supported media types begin the "this aid won't matter" narrative in a heeping helping of copiium. Just wait.
Called it.
Ukraine like your college daughter; don't want no 'advice,' just keep them checks coming.
Ocheretino is a town of 3,000 people and a whopping 4 miles from Adviikaa.
4 months, 4 miles. And we thought Ukraine's offensive had failed.
4 months, 4 miles. And we thought Ukraine's offensive had failed.
The money wont matter. Kick backs to the politicians, kick backs to the defense contractors, Zelenskyy's new car and apartment. Plus the 10% to the big guy. Mean while Russia is selling oil to Iran, who's selling it to Saudi Arabia, who's selling it to us. At least I saved 15% by switching to GEICO.Teslag said:Teslag said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/21/house-approves-61bn-aid-for-ukraine-what-we-know-so-far-and-what-happens-next
Once senate approves this aid will be in Ukraine within days. And of course the article quotes the gnashing of teeth and tantrums by the Russians. With good reason. They know what's coming.
In the next few weeks you'll begin to see the usual Russian state supported media types begin the "this aid won't matter" narrative in a heeping helping of copiium. Just wait.
Called it.
Liberal tears taste so sweet.
Some will be wasted. Most won't. And a bunch of dead Russians found that out the hard way with our prior aid.
"Important
— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) April 22, 2024
🔴 It is reported that the enemy is urgently transferring all its reserves to the border areas of the Sumy and Kharkov regions.
🔴 Intensive construction of defense lines and fortifications is underway. What can we say to civilians in the Sumy and Kharkov regions?… https://t.co/1MVfxbVZ6i pic.twitter.com/37YMwQpszv
I'd expect a large strike overnight.
And yet the bulk of Russians Army is still sitting on the sideline. You would think with almost 100 billion sent to Ukraine. Those people would find away to defeat Russia. Or at least bribe Russia to leave the area.
Liberal tears taste so sweet.
Psycho Bunny said:
And yet the bulk of Russians Army is still sitting on the sideline. You would think with almost 100 billion sent to Ukraine. Those people would find away to defeat Russia. Or at least bribe Russia to leave the area.
We still buying into the super secret Russian army in reserve bit?
Is that in the tweet?PlaneCrashGuy said:Teslag said:
I did. Where did she say that Russia can't mount an offensive?
" Different Uke supporters are saying different things" was the whole point I was making.
If you were all spreading the truth, your message would be uniform because there's only one truth.
But you can go multiple directions from Ocheretino. So, now you get to divide that distance by the number of directions.Teslag said:
Ocheretino is a town of 3,000 people and a whopping 4 miles from Adviikaa.
4 months, 4 miles. And we thought Ukraine's offensive had failed.
What are these "kick backs to defense contractors"? Please explain in detail.Psycho Bunny said:The money wont matter. Kick backs to the politicians, kick backs to the defense contractors, Zelenskyy's new car and apartment. Plus the 10% to the big guy. Mean while Russia is selling oil to Iran, who's selling it to Saudi Arabia, who's selling it to us. At least I saved 15% by switching to GEICO.Teslag said:Teslag said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/21/house-approves-61bn-aid-for-ukraine-what-we-know-so-far-and-what-happens-next
Once senate approves this aid will be in Ukraine within days. And of course the article quotes the gnashing of teeth and tantrums by the Russians. With good reason. They know what's coming.
In the next few weeks you'll begin to see the usual Russian state supported media types begin the "this aid won't matter" narrative in a heeping helping of copiium. Just wait.
Called it.
Generally, when you start a war, you spend the first 2+ years using the back end of your bench. The starters are getting warmed up now and are ready to go.Teslag said:Psycho Bunny said:
And yet the bulk of Russians Army is still sitting on the sideline. You would think with almost 100 billion sent to Ukraine. Those people would find away to defeat Russia. Or at least bribe Russia to leave the area.
We still buying into the super secret Russian army in reserve bit?
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