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The Ukrainian counter offensive wasn't a myth, it simply failed to do anything noteworthy this summer. And here we are, in a stalemate.

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We are zooming out to maintain appearances this morning. Anyone with eyes can see it is not going well for Ukelele, however.

Ukraine shoots down its own Su-27 over Kiev (footage): pic.twitter.com/d2JOOdRSFm

— Bashkarma🌏 (@Karmabash) February 27, 2024

According to putin Nazis we're attacking and killing Russian allies in Donbas......so Russia invading was caused by that.

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Was the US right to threaten war and nukes over Cuba allowing Russia bases there?

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We were in the wrong. Cuba had a right to seek an alliance to protect their interests in whatever way they wished.

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Okay. Cool. I still don't agree with ur position but I can respect that u are being fairly consistent and will back off the accusations of hypocrisy.

I'm blanking this one out (terms of service etc) but people can see the post on x if they want to. These are supposed to be our 'allies' fighting for 'democracy' and 'freedom.' Executing surrendering soldiers at point blank range.

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Not another dime. FJB. "Stacking bodies" and all that…Zelensky is an unrepentant liar as well.

Zelenskyy lied to his people about the casualty numbers of Ukrainian troops. Russian Defence Minister Shoigu disclosed today that Ukraine lost 444k soldiers so far. Currently 800 Ukrainian soldiers die every day. Obituary data from Ukraine confirms this. pic.twitter.com/v3ZiKBbkhY

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) February 27, 2024

Absurd numbers claims aside... So he should just surrender? Travis and Bowie would be proud....

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Absurd numbers claims aside... So he should just surrender? Travis and Bowie would be proud....

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I as usual am not sure what you are responding to/claiming/implying. I think he should rightfully resign immediately, in a public speech declaring a new election and elimination of border travel for Ukrainians and apologizing profusely for his role in the lies around the 'counteroffensive' last year and deaths of over 400K Ukrainians in a misguided attempt to force the armed forces to engage in a pointless proxy war over Joe Biden and Nuland's demands, to hide their corruption going back well over 10 years in Ukraine, and ask that his successor immediately seek a truce pending a longer term peace deal involving no Ukraine to Nato move to stabilize the population.

He should then reveal, quite publicly, the Biden corruption involved of which he surely has great knowledge, despite his role in the Trump impeachments. He should also direct that Azov war criminals be arrested (and those who have tortured/killed journalists/political prisoners such as Gonzo Lira) and negotiations begin immediately with a successor to hand them over to the Russians, and prior to his resignation taking effect he should order all restrictions on the press eliminated so that we can get some actual free reporting from within Kiev again. He should also provide a full revelation/confirmation again as to the coronavirus research conducted in Ukraine on bats at the various CIA labs, and what demands were made privately by Blackrock for their investment commitments post-war with Ukrainian financial institutions.

Then he should promise to immediately return Sean Penn's Oscar as he is a greater fraud even than the latter, and exit the world stage in disgrace.

But he shouldn't continue to fight the violent hostile invasion correct? And he shouldn't get any credit for preventing the complete occupation of his country over the past two years correct?

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and ask that his successor immediately seek a truce pending a longer term peace deal involving no Ukraine to Nato move to stabilize the population.

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How does this prevent Russia from taking another bite out of the apple?

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again as to the coronavirus research conducted in Ukraine on bats at the various CIA labs

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Are we STILL pushing the biolabs stuff? Wow.

That number is much more in line with Uke's 1/2 million mobilization.

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That number is much more in line with Uke's 1/2 million mobilization.

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Ukraine has not mobilized 500,000 troops to the front.

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That number is much more in line with Uke's 1/2 million mobilization.

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Ukraine has not mobilized 500,000 troops to the front.

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"to the front"

You're a fool if you think 31k is even 1/10th of the real number. But it wouldn't surprise ANYONE if you did.

If they aren't at the front they aren't being killed in mass numbers.

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again as to the coronavirus research conducted in Ukraine on bats at the various CIA labs

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Are we STILL pushing the biolabs stuff? Wow.

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What exactly is Nuland referring to?

Nuland was asked by Marco Rubio whether Ukraine "has chemical or biological weapons".

"Ukraine has biological research facilities which we are now quite concerned that Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of," she responded. "We are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach."

So they want to protect Russia from getting the Flu or what?

The same biolabs that the US always denied existed / knew nothing about?🤔
U.S. Secretary of State Victoria Nuland - US working with Ukraine to prevent biological research facilities from falling into Russian hands confirming the existence of those labs.pic.twitter.com/iC4BZRn8iS

— Private Investigator (@Top1Rating) February 27, 2024

They told us there were no biolabs in Ukraine. Turned out, they lied.

Then they told us there are no bioweapons in these biolabs in Ukraine. Turned out, they lied again. pic.twitter.com/OdFBxDdkYA

— Private Investigator (@Top1Rating) February 27, 2024

And all this time ukrostans were telling the world it was Moscow cleaning house. pic.twitter.com/9fGq4P1oAm

— T (@hy3ze0_m) February 26, 2024

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So the official MSM narrative is now that the CIA established bases in Ukraine, since 2014.

In addition to the bases, CIA proxy, USAID, funded and operated biolabs in Ukraine, as part of project PREDICT, a preemptive pandemic response program, looking for animal viruses in nature, so they could then enhance the functions, and make vaccines for viruses that don't exist yet, and might never exist.

In other words, the CIA were conducting gain of function/directed evolution research on bat coronaviruses in Ukraine, starting in 2014. Also known as, bioweapon development. Most notably from virologist Nathan Wolfe, CEO of the Biden-funded, Metabiota, operating in Ukraine.

Lo and behold, six years after the CIA started looking for bat coronaviruses in Ukraine, a bat coronavirus causes a pandemic, and all evidence suggests it was man-made.

AND US intelligence, health agencies, big tech, and lapdog media, went great lengths to cover the entire thing up.

You wanna know why the media freak out so much about the biolabs in Ukraine? Because they are protecting one of the Deep State's darkest secrets.

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So the official MSM narrative is now that the CIA established bases in Ukraine, since 2014.

In addition to the bases, CIA proxy, USAID, funded and operated biolabs in Ukraine, as part of project PREDICT, a preemptive pandemic response program, looking for animal viruses in… pic.twitter.com/1VvvJqc6J8

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) February 26, 2024

Nuland on tape, PREDICT, known biolabs, bat research. Nah, just coincidences.

Gemini says that I “spread misinformation” about the existence of “secret biolabs” in Ukraine developing biological weapons. Claiming I’ve been debunked by “widely credible sources”.

Yet @Google Gemini also admits that the US DoD confirmed they fund 46 Biolabs in Ukraine… 😂… pic.twitter.com/JhmltR6G1r

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) February 26, 2024

🚨🚨🚨Spokesperson for the Chinese 🇨🇳 ministry of national defense says that the USA 🇺🇸 has an obligation to answer 5 questions to the international community about the #BioLabs in Ukraine 🇺🇦 :

“Dozens of Ukrainian BioLabs were operating under the command of the USA 🇺🇸… pic.twitter.com/GuC9hbTvjP

— Kevin - WE THE PEOPLE❤️ - DAD🦁 🐉 🔥 (@bambkb) February 26, 2024

Sorry, we should all trust that the truth has been told about the Ukrainian CIA stations and biolabs. Nothing to see here. Just a conspiracy, that's all. Trust the CIA/Democrats/State Department/Nuland/Biden/Blinken.

August 2005 was also when The DOD funded Biolabs
were established in Ukraine.pic.twitter.com/hJ0oHKFjCU https://t.co/BweIefaYjp

— Political Polly (@PoliticalPollyy) January 23, 2024

The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

And let's remember, this has ALWAYS been a conspiracy pushed by the CCP as far back as 2022 (who some posters pretend to have a problem with)

https://apnews.com/general-news-39eeee023efdf7ea59c4a20b7e018169

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BANGKOK (AP) As Russia intensifies its assault on Ukraine, it is getting a helping hand from China in spreading inflammatory and unsubstantiated claims that the U.S. is financing biological weapons labs in Ukraine.

The U.S. has been quick to refute Russia's conspiracy theory, and the United Nations has said it has received no information that would back up the claim, but that hasn't stopped it from proliferating.

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The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

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Biological threat reduction via gain of function research involving vaccines and SARS/coronaviruses in bats. You're getting closer. The euphemistic terms lead toward something.

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The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

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A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

When your best response to someone sourcing their claims is "but the original claim was" you've already lost.

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The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

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A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

When your best response to someone sourcing their claims is "but the original claim was" you've already lost.

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Except that's exactly what conspiracy theorists do. Make an original claim. Then pervert and twist so many times that when they finally try to present the smoking gun it in no way relates to the original claim.

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The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

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A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

When your best response to someone sourcing their claims is "but the original claim was" you've already lost.

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Never believe/trust this poster when he "paraphrases" someone else, without quoting them. Or even indicating who he is referencing, or what post, or anything else.

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I'm blanking this one out (terms of service etc) but people can see the post on x if they want to. These are supposed to be our 'allies' fighting for 'democracy' and 'freedom.' Executing surrendering soldiers at point blank range.

X dot.

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Not another dime. FJB. "Stacking bodies" and all that…Zelensky is an unrepentant liar as well.

Zelenskyy lied to his people about the casualty numbers of Ukrainian troops. Russian Defence Minister Shoigu disclosed today that Ukraine lost 444k soldiers so far. Currently 800 Ukrainian soldiers die every day. Obituary data from Ukraine confirms this. pic.twitter.com/v3ZiKBbkhY

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) February 27, 2024

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Are we sure that Kim Dotcom didn't eat a bunch of Ukrainians?

The website of the US Embassy in Ukraine says: "The US Department of Defence's Biological Threat Reduction Programme collaborates with partner countries to counter the threat of outbreaks (deliberate, accidental, or natural) of the world's most dangerous infectious diseases."

The Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Ukraine "operates a little over a dozen" biolabs for biodefense and public health response. She said the US has, at least in the past, "provided financial assistance" to the labs "in the context of biosafety. Which is something we have done with a variety of different countries,"

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The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs. There is a distinct difference here and I can see why certain perspectives are working overtime to obfuscate the two.

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A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

When your best response to someone sourcing their claims is "but the original claim was" you've already lost.

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Except that's exactly what conspiracy theorists do. Make an original claim. Then pervert and twist so many times that when they finally try to present the smoking gun it in no way relates to the original claim.

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"In no way relates" -Teslag

"The original claim was that these were US funded biological weapons labs, not biological research labs" -Teslag 2 posts ago

Your think bio labs "in no way relate" to bio weapons labs? Welcome to your 1st day on earth I guess.

The funding still has not passed the House right?

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The funding still has not passed the House right?

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Not until "the right time" or something, but it's probably coming.

Hopefully the vote fails

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The funding still has not passed the House right?

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You can bet it will be attached to the next omnibus, with the SAME BS EXCUSE

"We had to do it to keep the government open"

Teslag maybe find a different hill to die on.

The intelligence services already admitted there were bio labs in Ukraine doing research there because the research was banned in the US.

This is well known code speak for bio weapons and the precise language they used when describing the Wuhan lab in China.

They already admitted it and it is in the public record so there is nothing left to cover for.

Yes, they admitted this back in 2022. It's not a new revelation. Nor is trying to paint them as weapons labs.

Oh my the idiocy is amazing

Let's see if they don't admit that bioweapons exist then they don't exist.

But if they admit that bioweapons exist they are admitting to direct violations of the Geneva Convention and the BWC. And just for reference the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) is a legally binding treaty that outlaws biological arms. After being discussed and negotiated in the UN's disarmament forum starting in 1969, the BWC opened for signature on April 10, 1972, and entered into force on March 26, 1975.

Oh but they would tell the truth and admit it if it was so. The Idiocy is amazing

So, Putin didn't have him beaten to death or thrown out a window

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraines-top-spy-chief-says-navalny-died-blood-clot-rejects-murder-narrative?utm_source=

Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine because we created covid in biolabs there.

/presumably college graduates in 2024

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So, Putin didn't have him beaten to death or thrown out a window

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraines-top-spy-chief-says-navalny-died-blood-clot-rejects-murder-narrative?utm_source=

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Impossible. Olga Bazova assured us that he was killed by Ukrainians to make Putin look bad.

No, we killed him to get Ukraine more weapons

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No, we killed him to get Ukraine more weapons

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Hopefully that does not happen, the weapons part