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Russia is advancing in the Donetsk region as fast as we've ever seen since this thing kicked off.

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When this thing kicked off Russia made it to the outskirts of Kiev in a week. Where are you seeing anything that fast?

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Have ATACMS been used within Russia? Seems pretty clear there are restrictions in place.

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Using Occams Razor, Ukrainian incompetence is a much more viable explanation IMO.

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So no, ATACMS haven't been used in Russian airspace.

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Russia is advancing in the Donetsk region as fast as we've ever seen since this thing kicked off.

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When this thing kicked off Russia made it to the outskirts of Kiev in a week. Where are you seeing anything that fast?

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Said differently, this is the fastest I've seen them go since it kicked off. Not saying it is equally as fast, but its certainly a notable uptick in pace, at least in Donetsk.

How many square miles are they taking each day?

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Have ATACMS been used within Russia? Seems pretty clear there are restrictions in place.

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Using Occams Razor, Ukrainian incompetence is a much more viable explanation IMO.

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So no, ATACMS haven't been used in Russian airspace.

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I'm not really interested in rehashing who Crimea belongs to.

This handcuffs thing will be this week's Ukrainian cope, next week they'll be onto the next one.

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Have ATACMS been used within Russia? Seems pretty clear there are restrictions in place.

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Using Occams Razor, Ukrainian incompetence is a much more viable explanation IMO.

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So no, ATACMS haven't been used in Russian airspace.

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I'm not really interested in rehashing who Crimea belongs to.

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Dodge Dip duck dive dodge

See above, not interested in hashing out this weeks cope. If you have actual evidence of the restrictions, share it. If the restrictions are in the room, point them out.

The actual evidence is that certain weapons have not been used on targets within Russia even though they easily could be if not for restrictions.

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See above, not interested in hashing out this weeks cope. If you have actual evidence of the restrictions, share it. If the restrictions are in the room, point them out.

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Is your contention that Ukraine is…making up the restrictions?

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See above, not interested in hashing out this weeks cope. If you have actual evidence of the restrictions, share it. If the restrictions are in the room, point them out.

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Is your contention that Ukraine is…making up the restrictions?

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All part of the grand conspiracy

Someone should tell them the restrictions are just totally made up

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/23/ukraine-biden-weapons-restrictions-00176210

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Ukrainian officials have been huddling with members of Congress, making public statements and meeting with top U.S. officials to get President Joe Biden to change his mind. Armed with the surprising results of the Kursk offensive, Kyiv is amping up the pressure in the run-up to the U.S. elections and the uncertain future of American aid in 2025 and beyond.

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The restrictions narrative is just the next in a long line of continued excuse making by Ukraine. It stopped for a bit when the Kursk offensive was the talking point, but by this time next week there will be a new excuse.

So the restrictions don't exist? That's your claim?

I doubt you'll get an answer. When he's tried arguing an actual point, he tends to get dismantled. One liners and trolling is his game.

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The restrictions narrative is just the next in a long line of continued excuse making by Ukraine. It stopped for a bit when the Kursk offensive was the talking point, but by this time next week there will be a new excuse.

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You usually don't make your trolling this obvious, but here you go anyways. This took about 3 minutes to find, I'm sure there's plenty more info out there.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/complications-loom-us-arms-policy-ukraine-moves-deeper-into-russia-2024-08-15/

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"We have been very, very clear and consistent that we really want to see Ukraine focus on defending themselves against this aggression inside of course their borders," White House national security spokesman John Kirby told MSNBC on Thursday.
"We don't encourage and we don't enable attacks outside of Ukraine except for in those exigent circumstances where we believe just over the border they're facing some imminent threats," he said.

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The restrictions narrative is just the next in a long line of continued excuse making by Ukraine. It stopped for a bit when the Kursk offensive was the talking point, but by this time next week there will be a new excuse.

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You usually don't make your trolling this obvious, but here you go anyways. This took about 3 minutes to find, I'm sure there's plenty more info out there.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/complications-loom-us-arms-policy-ukraine-moves-deeper-into-russia-2024-08-15/

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"We have been very, very clear and consistent that we really want to see Ukraine focus on defending themselves against this aggression inside of course their borders," White House national security spokesman John Kirby told MSNBC on Thursday.
"We don't encourage and we don't enable attacks outside of Ukraine except for in those exigent circumstances where we believe just over the border they're facing some imminent threats," he said.

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So what exactly changed before the Kursk offensive? Seems silly they're "allowed" to invade Russia but can't strike Russia.

And a GOP congressman on the defense panel

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Rep. Ken Calvert (R-Calif.), who chairs the panel that controls much of the Pentagon budget, likened the hesitancy of the administration to approve missile strikes deeper into Russian territory to its previous objections to providing Ukraine long-range munitions and F-16 fighters, among other debates. The Biden team eventually reversed course and sent those weapons.

Calvert criticized the administration for blocking the wider use of U.S.-made long-range systems, arguing holding back the Ukrainians will prolong the war.

"Obviously in Kursk, they would like to have use of a long-range fire, specifically ATACMS. And there's some fear and trepidation on part of the administration," Calvert said in an interview.

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The restrictions narrative is just the next in a long line of continued excuse making by Ukraine. It stopped for a bit when the Kursk offensive was the talking point, but by this time next week there will be a new excuse.

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You usually don't make your trolling this obvious, but here you go anyways. This took about 3 minutes to find, I'm sure there's plenty more info out there.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/complications-loom-us-arms-policy-ukraine-moves-deeper-into-russia-2024-08-15/

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"We have been very, very clear and consistent that we really want to see Ukraine focus on defending themselves against this aggression inside of course their borders," White House national security spokesman John Kirby told MSNBC on Thursday.
"We don't encourage and we don't enable attacks outside of Ukraine except for in those exigent circumstances where we believe just over the border they're facing some imminent threats," he said.

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So what exactly changed before the Kursk offensive?

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What about it? Ukraine didn't use long range weapons deep inside Russia in their Kursk offensive.

And yes we agree, it is silly. That's the problem.

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And a GOP congressman on the defense panel

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Rep. Ken Calvert (R-Calif.), who chairs the panel that controls much of the Pentagon budget, likened the hesitancy of the administration to approve missile strikes deeper into Russian territory to its previous objections to providing Ukraine long-range munitions and F-16 fighters, among other debates. The Biden team eventually reversed course and sent those weapons.

Calvert criticized the administration for blocking the wider use of U.S.-made long-range systems, arguing holding back the Ukrainians will prolong the war.

"Obviously in Kursk, they would like to have use of a long-range fire, specifically ATACMS. And there's some fear and trepidation on part of the administration," Calvert said in an interview.

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Let me be clear: I believe the US asked them not to. What I don't believe is that Ukraine would listen.

So Ukraine has avoided targets in Russia because they thought it was in their best interest.

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So Ukraine has avoided targets in Russia because they thought it was in their best interest.

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You're saying that. I'm saying Ukraine is incompetent.

Best evidence of this is Kursk.

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So Ukraine has avoided targets in Russia because they thought it was in their best interest.

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You're saying that. I'm saying Ukraine is incompetent.

Beet evidence of this is Kursk.

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Where they failed to use our weapons to support their invasion? Yeah, they must just be dumb.

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No clue on the accuracy of this caption/location of this video- but the accusation levied is too large not to share. I wonder if we will see Ukraine moving AD closer to the capital? It sounds like Russia is advancing in the Donetsk region as fast as we've ever seen since this thing kicked off.

Russians just tried to blow up the Kyiv hydroelectric dam.

If successful, this will permanently flood one of the largest cities in Europe.

Meanwhile, US forbids Ukraine from stopping it. pic.twitter.com/16paLGfG45

— Jay in Kyiv (@JayinKyiv) August 26, 2024

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You're posting a smiley face because the dam collapse might kill thousands of civilians?

That's disturbing...

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Beet evidence of this is Kursk.

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Sounds like a load of borsch.

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So Ukraine has avoided targets in Russia because they thought it was in their best interest.

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You're saying that. I'm saying Ukraine is incompetent.

Beet evidence of this is Kursk.

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Where they failed to use our weapons to support their invasion? Yeah, they must just be dumb.

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Next week it'll be a new talking point. Unless of course you're able to explain why no one was talking about this until 86% of the missiles/drones were intercepted?

No, I'm sure it's completely organic everyone is suddenly saying the same thing after last nights strikes, of which 86% were intercepted.

If anything, its proof Uke was fudging the numbers on the interceptions. Evidence the strikes were… devastating.

Dodge dip duck dive and dodge

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Sounds like a load of borsch borscht.

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fify

That's how they're currently beeting Russia in the Kursk area...

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Dodge dip duck dive and dodge

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Iskanders on Kiev.

— ayden (@squatsons) August 27, 2024

Not your best timing.

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Iskanders on Kiev.

— ayden (@squatsons) August 27, 2024

Not your best timing.

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What argument are you attempting to attribute to me?

Some updates on the Biden-Harris proxy war with Russia:

The Biden-Harris administration says the war in Ukraine is going well, but it’s not. Russia launched a massive bombing campaign, and Biden and Harris may let Ukraine use long-range missiles. As such, they have pushed the US closer to nuclear war than at any point since 1962. pic.twitter.com/m4VY9kUc3l

— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) August 26, 2024

Sitrep:

What does the breakthrough of the Russian Armed Forces at Novogrodovka mean?

The Ukrainian command took a big chance in early August by attacking in the Kursk region. They managed to turn the attack into a psychological operation. But there’s nuance.

The Russians used their… pic.twitter.com/vaRRztVczC

— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) August 27, 2024

More: "Powerful Russian Strikes Usher in Season of Ukrainian Discontent"

I've read that the strikes on the damn near Kiev weren't to take it down/flood the city, but rather to take out the power generation control systems on it. More at the link on this.

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This would seem to suggest that today's strikes had nothing to do with Kursk but were in fact the preplanned resumption of Ukraine's electric grid debasement, which was meant to have started around fall as per rumors. And in fact one Ukrainian figure espoused this very thought on X, wherein he stated such an operation can be planned for weeks or months, and likely had its intelligence gathering phase stemming from even before Kursk had occurred, which would give credence to the idea the strikes were in fact routine.

Rumors abounded that the strikes were particularly painful as Kiev pulled a lot of its remaining air defense assets toward the Sumy-Kursk axis, thinking Russia to be low on missiles. More significant even than electricity, the water went out in many urban areas, which is one of the big predicted milestones that would happen for when the grid really buckles this winter.

It will be interesting to see how many people remain in Ukraine by next year, given that a new report claims SIM card data shows the population decline has already dipped to catastrophic levels, if true:

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Half of Ukraine's population is gone! "According to closed data, the number of active mobile users in Ukraine is 16 million, active SIM cards about 25 million. There are now about 18-19 million people left in Ukraine" former Ukr. PM, Azarov Ukraine had 38 million in 2022

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The Russian advances, and Su-34 vs. Patriot video/narrative are indeed fascinating. Nice that Russia can take these large urban areas without flattening them nowadays.

Tulsi and RFK have called out the bioweapon labs in Ukraine repeatedly. Here's to hoping:

Trump's newest allies have something very specific in common.

Tulsi and RFK Jr. are the two most prominent US politicians to discuss the US-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

They have been extremely vocal about this subject, and Trump just brought them both onto his team. 👀

Perhaps… pic.twitter.com/xAxNT62iDk

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) August 26, 2024

We have to take the "handcuffs" off Ukraine because their interception rate isn't actually 86%. Nowhere close.

**Details on the Widespread Strikes on Infrastructure in Ukraine:**

An air raid alert was issued across Ukraine shortly after 6 a.m. Moscow time.

Ukrainian media reported explosions in numerous regions, including Kyiv, Kyiv Oblast, Kharkiv, Sumy, Poltava, Vinnytsia, Kirovohrad,… pic.twitter.com/LlN1t0uULX

— Venik (@venik44) August 26, 2024

You would still get damage if it's 86%.

Also, how many square miles did Russia take yesterday? You may have answered yesterday and I didn't see it. You can round to the nearest whole number if it helps.

A ('pro-Ukrainian) thread debunking some of just yesterday's ludicrous claims (Sorry, too long to post most of it);

2/x Firstly, let's take a look at what was reportedly launched, starting off with Kinzhals. In a post on their official Telegram channel, the Airforce claimed that 3 Kh-47M2 "Kinzhal" aeroballistic missiles were launched from MiG-31K's from the airspace of Ryazan and Lipetsk.

— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) August 27, 2024

14/x this is very approximate and in no way should be taken as an exact number, (in fact I personally believe that it was more than 56 hits), but it still highlights the disparities between the truth and Ukraine's air defence claims.

— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) August 27, 2024

Failed (or just a feint) toward Belgorod:

I take back what I said about armoured vehicles, one source claimed that 8 armoured vehicles where used in the attack.

— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) August 27, 2024