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BMX Bandit said:

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From a political theater perspective it's going to be absolutely fantastic to watch

But from my perspective of someone that wants this country to succeed, it's incredibly sad to watch former president push such a disgusting lies about another Republican

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Well it's a good thing for America that up until this very point, Trump never lied about anything.

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries and Trump doesnt run third party and endorsed Desantis then the Dems will win in a landslide in 2024. Hell they may even win a state like Texas.

This is beyond ridiculous.


I have said over and over again that Trump supporters would rather vote for Trump than win an election. He is systematically destroying the Republican party.

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I hope I'm wrong but the Trump era appears to be a short term sugar high that could destroy the conservative movement for years. It's morphed a large section of the ideological conservative electorate into loyal followers of an increasingly senile man regarding of policy position.

Trump will continue to wield considerable power until he dies (and probably even after with Don Jr). He doesn't have enough support to win nationally anymore but can sink any other conservative running if he chooses. At this point, I don't know if the Only Trumpers ever come back into the conservative fold. They may stop voting entirely once Donald is gone.

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I think you are overstating the impact Trump has. I think whatever damage he could do will be limited to one cycle.

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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They are all rigged. Desantis is a swamp monster

Alot of people voted for Trump, not because they liked him, but because:

1) The media hated him, and he was ready for a fight.
2) The extreme left hated Trump, and the extreme left was erasing the "traditional" liberal faster than anyone's imagination could process.
3) Trump's quasi populism resonated well. It still resonates well.

That said DeSantis all the best qualities of Trump and zero baggage.

unmade bed said:

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Calling the election rigged long before it's even held? Sure, this isn't anything new, but for it to be said about a rising star in one's own party is interesting to say the least.

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Donald, is that you?

shiftyandquick said:

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MAGA believes Pizza-gate. MAGA will believe this. MAGA will believe anything their leader tells them.

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TDS believes Russia Gate. TDS will believe anything the media tells them.

BMX Bandit said:

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It's quite telling that the Trump worshippers won't even say he's wrong to call one of the leading conservative governors a groomer. Instead, they make excuses for him, try to deflect, etc

The Trump worshipers only make up a very small portion of posters here, but they are so engulfed in the cult of personality they have become caricatures. I really hope they are trolling because it's sad to think conservative Aggies can be so lacking in the ability to think. For themselves. Very much like leftists in that regard

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I know you said 'on here'. Cook Political Reports latest article said that they believe the number of Trump supporters who would vote for him if he ran third party is 25% of total voters.

I hate to break it to y'all, but politics is a rock fight. You're not friends with your campaign rivals during campaigns. Trump is going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks because he wants to win and his strategy is to punch his way to victory.

If you can't handle the indignity of that, maybe politics isn't for you. It has always been this way.

The Green Dragon said:

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I cannot stand trump anymore. But please dont pretend that if a pic like this had surfaced about Biden, this board wouldnt be calling him a pedo.

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If a pic, lol. FJB is a pedo as said by his meth head son, and the groping Youtube videos, and as shower scene described by the tween niece.

MSM SUCCESS HERE.

Kvetch said:

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I hate to break it to y'all, but politics is a rock fight. You're not friends with your campaign rivals during campaigns. Trump is going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks because he wants to win and his strategy is to punch his way to victory.

If you can't handle the indignity of that, maybe politics isn't for you. It has always been this way.

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Correct.

What's tricky for Desantis supporters is that everything, and then some, has already been thrown at Trump for 7 years. So they're just left to stamp their feet, say he's mean, and use the same tired insults. If anything, he's doing Desantis a huge favor by dragging out some dirty laundry, poking holes is this immaculate facade.

I keep seeing it posted how Desantis is the best of trump without the negatives. They have NO idea what's coming against Desantis if he runs in the primary and/or general. They have NO idea how quickly the Trump hate would become Desantis hate from the msm. They'll make him the second coming of Satan incarnate so fast your head will spin.

No Spin Ag said:

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unmade bed said:

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Calling the election rigged long before it's even held? Sure, this isn't anything new, but for it to be said about a rising star in one's own party is interesting to say the least.

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You've got to repeat the lie until it's indistinguishable from truth. Sometimes for that to work, you've got to start early. Heck, it worked in 2020. Heck, it's STILL working for 2020.

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Might want to get your sarcasm meter checked.

And, they were not prepared for Trump with Hillary. They thought she would walk to an easy victory. They didn't make that mistake again.

Jeeper79 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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unmade bed said:

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Calling the election rigged long before it's even held? Sure, this isn't anything new, but for it to be said about a rising star in one's own party is interesting to say the least.

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You've got to repeat the lie until it's indistinguishable from truth. Sometimes for that to work, you've got to start early. Heck, it worked in 2020. Heck, it's STILL working for 2020.

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Trump was claiming it was rigged in 2016. Then he won and shut up about it.

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Kvetch said:

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I hate to break it to y'all, but politics is a rock fight. You're not friends with your campaign rivals during campaigns. Trump is going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks because he wants to win and his strategy is to punch his way to victory.

If you can't handle the indignity of that, maybe politics isn't for you. It has always been this way.

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Correct.

What's tricky for Desantis supporters is that everything, and then some, has already been thrown at Trump for 7 years. So they're just left to stamp their feet, say he's mean, and use the same tired insults. If anything, he's doing Desantis a huge favor by dragging out some dirty laundry, poking holes is this immaculate facade.

I keep seeing it posted how Desantis is the best of trump without the negatives. They have NO idea what's coming against Desantis if he runs in the primary and/or general. They have NO idea how quickly the Trump hate would become Desantis hate from the msm. They'll make him the second coming of Satan incarnate so fast your head will spin.

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The left sees plenty of things in trump that they consider negative that even non trump republicans still consider positive. Take away the childish behavior with DeSantis and there are still plenty of things the left doesn't like about him. I'm a moderate, but I'll tell you what tops my list…

DeSantis picks fights. The GOP eats that up. I'm not convinced moderates will call that a good thing. After 15+ years of escalation on top of escalation, I'm ready for a president that can bring people together.

I'd prefer that bridge builder to be a Republican, but I doubtful they have that capacity right now. Nor do they even want it.

aggievaulter07 said:

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Trump caught them with their pants down in 2016 by winning in the rust belt, and by overwhelming margins in other areas. The eye of Sauron was not looking at "their" strongholds, so to speak. They corrected that problem by ballot harvesting and an unverifiable mail in ballot campaign in Penn/Michigan/etc. in 2020, and strategically in counties in AZ/GA.

BMX Bandit said:

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It's quite telling that the Trump worshippers won't even say he's wrong to call one of the leading conservative governors a groomer. Instead, they make excuses for him, try to deflect, etc

The Trump worshipers only make up a very small portion of posters here, but they are so engulfed in the cult of personality they have become caricatures. I really hope they are trolling because it's sad to think conservative Aggies can be so lacking in the ability to think. For themselves. Very much like leftists in that regard

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All to own the libs.

Jeeper79 said:

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OG UNF said:

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Kvetch said:

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I hate to break it to y'all, but politics is a rock fight. You're not friends with your campaign rivals during campaigns. Trump is going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks because he wants to win and his strategy is to punch his way to victory.

If you can't handle the indignity of that, maybe politics isn't for you. It has always been this way.

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Correct.

What's tricky for Desantis supporters is that everything, and then some, has already been thrown at Trump for 7 years. So they're just left to stamp their feet, say he's mean, and use the same tired insults. If anything, he's doing Desantis a huge favor by dragging out some dirty laundry, poking holes is this immaculate facade.

I keep seeing it posted how Desantis is the best of trump without the negatives. They have NO idea what's coming against Desantis if he runs in the primary and/or general. They have NO idea how quickly the Trump hate would become Desantis hate from the msm. They'll make him the second coming of Satan incarnate so fast your head will spin.

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The left sees plenty of things in trump that they consider negative that even non trump republicans still consider positive. Take away the childish behavior with DeSantis and there are still plenty of things the left doesn't like about him. I'm a moderate, but I'll tell you what tops my list…

DeSantis picks fights. The GOP eats that up. I'm not convinced moderates will call that a good thing. After 15+ years of escalation on top of escalation, I'm ready for a president that can bring people together.

I'd prefer that bridge builder to be a Republican, but I doubtful they have that capacity right now. Nor do they even want it.

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Our first offramp.

Can't say it's unexpected.

RGLAG85 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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OG UNF said:

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Kvetch said:

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I hate to break it to y'all, but politics is a rock fight. You're not friends with your campaign rivals during campaigns. Trump is going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks because he wants to win and his strategy is to punch his way to victory.

If you can't handle the indignity of that, maybe politics isn't for you. It has always been this way.

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Correct.

What's tricky for Desantis supporters is that everything, and then some, has already been thrown at Trump for 7 years. So they're just left to stamp their feet, say he's mean, and use the same tired insults. If anything, he's doing Desantis a huge favor by dragging out some dirty laundry, poking holes is this immaculate facade.

I keep seeing it posted how Desantis is the best of trump without the negatives. They have NO idea what's coming against Desantis if he runs in the primary and/or general. They have NO idea how quickly the Trump hate would become Desantis hate from the msm. They'll make him the second coming of Satan incarnate so fast your head will spin.

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The left sees plenty of things in trump that they consider negative that even non trump republicans still consider positive. Take away the childish behavior with DeSantis and there are still plenty of things the left doesn't like about him. I'm a moderate, but I'll tell you what tops my list…

DeSantis picks fights. The GOP eats that up. I'm not convinced moderates will call that a good thing. After 15+ years of escalation on top of escalation, I'm ready for a president that can bring people together.

I'd prefer that bridge builder to be a Republican, but I doubtful they have that capacity right now. Nor do they even want it.

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Our first offramp.

Can't say it's unexpected.

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I'll own that.

GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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unmade bed said:

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Calling the election rigged long before it's even held? Sure, this isn't anything new, but for it to be said about a rising star in one's own party is interesting to say the least.

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You've got to repeat the lie until it's indistinguishable from truth. Sometimes for that to work, you've got to start early. Heck, it worked in 2020. Heck, it's STILL working for 2020.

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Trump was claiming it was rigged in 2016. Then he won and shut up about it.

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It was rigged in '16. They used superdelegates to eliminate Bernie, colluded with FBI/CIA to surveil Trump's campaign, financed and planted fabricated opposition research.

OG UNF said:

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aggievaulter07 said:

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Trump caught them with their pants down in 2016 by winning in the rust belt, and by overwhelming margins in other areas. The eye of Sauron was not looking at "their" strongholds, so to speak. They corrected that problem by ballot harvesting and an unverifiable mail in ballot campaign in Penn/Michigan/etc. in 2020, and strategically in counties in AZ/elsewhere.

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Ballot harvesting and mail in ballots...

Are you still claiming these are fake people or just that the left is getting real people to vote and for their votes to count?

A GOP strategy based upon voter suppression is going to be less and less effective as time goes by. The demographics in this country are changing. Also, "scare the white people over age 30" is not gonna be a winning strategy going forward.

For a demonstration of how it's done, see Ron DeSantis and Hispanics. If a Republican can break into the black vote, it's over for the Democrats.

GeorgiAg said:

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OG UNF said:

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aggievaulter07 said:

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Trump caught them with their pants down in 2016 by winning in the rust belt, and by overwhelming margins in other areas. The eye of Sauron was not looking at "their" strongholds, so to speak. They corrected that problem by ballot harvesting and an unverifiable mail in ballot campaign in Penn/Michigan/etc. in 2020, and strategically in counties in AZ/elsewhere.

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Ballot harvesting and mail in ballots...

Are you still claiming these are fake people or just that the left is getting real people to vote and for their votes to count?

A GOP strategy based upon voter suppression is going to be less and less effective as time goes by. The demographics in this country are changing. Also, "scare the white people over age 30" is not gonna be a winning strategy going forward.

For a demonstration of how it's done, see Ron DeSantis and Hispanics. If a Republican can break into the black vote, it's over for the Democrats.

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81 million people did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020.

OG UNF said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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unmade bed said:

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agsalaska said:

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Unless somehow DeSantis pulls away from Trump in the primaries

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Only way DeSantis beats Trump in the primary is if it's a RIGGED election.

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Calling the election rigged long before it's even held? Sure, this isn't anything new, but for it to be said about a rising star in one's own party is interesting to say the least.

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You've got to repeat the lie until it's indistinguishable from truth. Sometimes for that to work, you've got to start early. Heck, it worked in 2020. Heck, it's STILL working for 2020.

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Trump was claiming it was rigged in 2016. Then he won and shut up about it.

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It was rigged in '16. They used superdelegates to eliminate Bernie, colluded with FBI/CIA to surveil Trump's campaign, financed and planted fabricated opposition research.

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The FBI also announced Hillary was under investigation for her emails in the 2 weeks before the election so that does how does that fit with your "Dems/FBI collusion" argument?

That likely cost her the election.

OG UNF said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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OG UNF said:

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aggievaulter07 said:

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Trump caught them with their pants down in 2016 by winning in the rust belt, and by overwhelming margins in other areas. The eye of Sauron was not looking at "their" strongholds, so to speak. They corrected that problem by ballot harvesting and an unverifiable mail in ballot campaign in Penn/Michigan/etc. in 2020, and strategically in counties in AZ/elsewhere.

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Ballot harvesting and mail in ballots...

Are you still claiming these are fake people or just that the left is getting real people to vote and for their votes to count?

A GOP strategy based upon voter suppression is going to be less and less effective as time goes by. The demographics in this country are changing. Also, "scare the white people over age 30" is not gonna be a winning strategy going forward.

For a demonstration of how it's done, see Ron DeSantis and Hispanics. If a Republican can break into the black vote, it's over for the Democrats.

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81 million people did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020.

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That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

OG UNF said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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OG UNF said:

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aggievaulter07 said:

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The "Every Election (that Reps don't win) is Rigged" people blow my mind. If there was ever evidence that elections are NOT rigged, it's that Hillary Clinton actually lost to Donald Trump.

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Trump caught them with their pants down in 2016 by winning in the rust belt, and by overwhelming margins in other areas. The eye of Sauron was not looking at "their" strongholds, so to speak. They corrected that problem by ballot harvesting and an unverifiable mail in ballot campaign in Penn/Michigan/etc. in 2020, and strategically in counties in AZ/elsewhere.

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Ballot harvesting and mail in ballots...

Are you still claiming these are fake people or just that the left is getting real people to vote and for their votes to count?

A GOP strategy based upon voter suppression is going to be less and less effective as time goes by. The demographics in this country are changing. Also, "scare the white people over age 30" is not gonna be a winning strategy going forward.

For a demonstration of how it's done, see Ron DeSantis and Hispanics. If a Republican can break into the black vote, it's over for the Democrats.

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81 million people did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020.

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… but 81 million people sure as heck voted against trump.