Bombshells in Kari Lake's Election Lawsuit

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J. Walter Weatherman
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JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

From a reliable source in the know. Both GA and AZ are lost. Only those selected will continue to win unless something extraordinary occurs. There is no republican/democrat difference to corruption.


GA just elected a Republican governor over the dem's savior in a landslide. How exactly is that lost?


A slave to the system.


What specifically makes Kemp a "slave to the system"?
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

From a reliable source in the know. Both GA and AZ are lost. Only those selected will continue to win unless something extraordinary occurs. There is no republican/democrat difference to corruption.


GA just elected a Republican governor over the dem's savior in a landslide. How exactly is that lost?


A slave to the system.


What specifically makes Kemp a "slave to the system"?
His debt to the system that put him there and its not the people he promised in public to represent.
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JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

From a reliable source in the know. Both GA and AZ are lost. Only those selected will continue to win unless something extraordinary occurs. There is no republican/democrat difference to corruption.


GA just elected a Republican governor over the dem's savior in a landslide. How exactly is that lost?


A slave to the system.


What specifically makes Kemp a "slave to the system"?
His debt to the system that put him there and its not the people he promised in public to represent.


Lol ok. More specifically, what actions has Kemp taken that makes you think he's a "slave to the system"? (Whatever that means)
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.
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Ag CPA said:

JFABNRGR said:

From a reliable source in the know. Both GA and AZ are lost. Only those selected will continue to win unless something extraordinary occurs. There is no republican/democrat difference to corruption.
Nothing better on this board than the "reliable source" posts.
The level of quality of source that led to two impeachments for Trump, the Russia collusion hoax, and the most recent allegation Chinese balloons were over the US during Trump's administration.

Believe any of those lies from reliable sources?

Or the ones that said Hunter's laptop were Russian disinfo?
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The sad thing is if she had run just a slightly different sort of campaign, she would have won in a landslide.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

JFABNRGR said:

From a reliable source in the know. Both GA and AZ are lost. Only those selected will continue to win unless something extraordinary occurs. There is no republican/democrat difference to corruption.


GA just elected a Republican governor over the dem's savior in a landslide. How exactly is that lost?


A slave to the system.


What specifically makes Kemp a "slave to the system"?
His debt to the system that put him there and its not the people he promised in public to represent.


Lol ok. More specifically, what actions has Kemp taken that makes you think he's a "slave to the system"? (Whatever that means)
Obviously he must be a deep state RINO!
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.


Correct. Much like Hobbs, Fetterman knew that trump had pushed the republicans to nominate a bad candidate and all he had to do was stfu and wait him out. If they were smart enough to nominate McCormick and not an out of touch reality tv doctor who lived in New Jersey he would have had to campaign and likely would have lost.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.


Correct. Much like Hobbs, Fetterman knew that trump had pushed the republicans to nominate a bad candidate and all he had to do was stfu and wait him out. If they were smart enough to nominate McCormick and not an out of touch reality tv doctor who lived in New Jersey he would have had to campaign and likely would have lost.
I disagree that a poor candidate in Fetterman who is further disabled by his stroke is a better candidate than Oz, despite his warts as you noted. I think their wins are more likely the result of ballot harvesting and election day shenanigans than that the Dem was a better candidate than the R. Especially in the Fetterman/Oz case, but also pretty clearly in the Lake/Hobbs case. Fetterman and Hobbs are complete trash, and their constituents aren't barking socialists such that they support their policy positions.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.


Correct. Much like Hobbs, Fetterman knew that trump had pushed the republicans to nominate a bad candidate and all he had to do was stfu and wait him out. If they were smart enough to nominate McCormick and not an out of touch reality tv doctor who lived in New Jersey he would have had to campaign and likely would have lost.
I disagree that a poor candidate in Fetterman who is further disabled by his stroke is a better candidate than Oz, despite his warts as you noted. I think their wins are more likely the result of ballot harvesting and election day shenanigans than that the Dem was a better candidate than the R. Especially in the Fetterman/Oz case, but also pretty clearly in the Lake/Hobbs case. Fetterman and Hobbs are complete trash, and their constituents aren't barking socialists such that they support their policy positions.


You can think that Lake and Oz are better candidates than Fetterman/Hobbs all you want. That's not what voters in PA and AZ said. And hilariously enough Lake probably still would have won if she wasn't more worried about impressing trump/far right internet trolls by crapping on McCain voters than she was about winning.
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Fetterman wasn't a better candidate than Oz, but Mastriano was a ****ty candidate that drug down all the PA statewide candidates.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.
Why do people use attendance at large venues as a gauge for support? I voted for Trump but wouldn't be at all interested in attending a 'rally''. I've got way more important things to do than listened to the same lines over and over. Trump rallies were more about cult of personality and their need to feel like being in a special patriotic club.
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Why do people use attendance at large venues as a gauge for support? I voted for Trump but wouldn't be at all interested in attending a 'rally''.
Gee, maybe because spending time and money to attend one is a sign of support?
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Have to have DEBUNKED talking points ready for when unpopular politicians who can't articulate their positions, didn't bother to campaign, and can barely get a dozen people to attend their rallies beat very popular candidates who consistently sell out huge venues.

Has anyone noticed the liberal NGOs used to spend lots and lots of donor money on "get out the vote" rallies with concerts, commercials, and specials on MTV so they could get young people fired up to go vote and now they spend all their donor money on mail in harvesting? There's no more "get out the vote" anything from the left. They don't try to earn votes anymore, they acquire ballots.

We need anti-fraud controls, audit trails, and transparency so there can be accountability. Our system is totally F'd.
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TRM said:

Fetterman wasn't a better candidate than Oz, but Mastriano was a ****ty candidate that drug down all the PA statewide candidates.


No argument there. Running someone like Mastriano in a state like PA is like running AOC in Montana. Complete insanity from the PA primary voters.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.


Correct. Much like Hobbs, Fetterman knew that trump had pushed the republicans to nominate a bad candidate and all he had to do was stfu and wait him out. If they were smart enough to nominate McCormick and not an out of touch reality tv doctor who lived in New Jersey he would have had to campaign and likely would have lost.
You believe Fetterman had the cognitive ability to think of well anything. The same Fetterman that never held a job and lived at his parents until into his forties.
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Wait. Did Georgia flip?
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Why do people use attendance at large venues as a gauge for support? I voted for Trump but wouldn't be at all interested in attending a 'rally''.
Gee, maybe because spending time and money to attend one is a sign of support?
Gee, I guess that's the only sign of support for candidates? My apologies, you're correct. And I also forgot about the special Trump coins that sold out, thus solidifying his '24 election as President. It's probably not that fools and their money are soon separated. The Koch brothers are about to throw a huge amount behind someone other than Trump...and I think they are even allowed to do it without having to attend a rally.
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BluHorseShu said:

aggiehawg said:

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Why do people use attendance at large venues as a gauge for support? I voted for Trump but wouldn't be at all interested in attending a 'rally''.
Gee, maybe because spending time and money to attend one is a sign of support?
Gee, I guess that's the only sign of support for candidates? My apologies, you're correct. And I also forgot about the special Trump coins that sold out, thus solidifying his '24 election as President. It's probably not that fools and their money are soon separated. The Koch brothers are about to throw a huge amount behind someone other than Trump...and I think they are even allowed to do it without having to attend a rally.
Alternatively, you would say the willingness to go to a venue to hear a politician speak doesn't imply a level of support? If Trump and Biden throw a rally in Maricopa County, you can't draw any conclusions from their relative attendance?
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No he can't, filter bubble affects logic.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.
reminds me of Robert Francis vs. Ted Cruz
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Ted Cruz was popular. Biden, Fetterman, Hobbs - not popular at all.

Dems can harvest their desired results in some of the urban counties where the democratic harvesting machines are operating and the mail-ins are plentiful. No campaigning required. No real human being support needed. Don't need to spend money trying to "get out the vote" anymore. Billionaire elites can spend money on the harvesting operations and lobbying state legislatures to not fix the system because controls and accountability would be racist JIM CROW 2.0 on steroids!!!

But you can try to pretend almost zero real humans supporting a candidate is totally normal and logical when they beat very popular candidates that sell out venues and arenas. You've got the approved "DEBUNKED" talking points, so for it. .but I bet if you canvass door to door, there's no way you'd be able to collect enough data from humans that would support a result of Fetterman winning a senate race or Hobbs winning a gubernatorial race. Hobbs couldn't articulate any positions other than spouting off tag line lies about her opponent, refused to debate, couldn't get more than a dozen people to her "rallies", was way behind in polls of both registered and likely voters, and the approved DEBUNKED talking points just don't line up with her "victory".
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Eso si, Que es said:

BluHorseShu said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

BluHorseShu said:

captkirk said:


True or not, Kari Lake needs to drive on if she wants another shot at office. If this is all she keeps trying to prove, people will get tired of it and this is all that will define her.
If this bull**** is not corrected, no republican will ever win an election again. The future of our country depends on making much out of the cheating and stopping it.
Except republicans have won...many of them. In fact we finally got the majority back in the house. It couldn't possibly be that Kari was not a great candidate? In fact they found many people who voted for other republicans on the ticket did not vote for her for governor. Republicans were in charge of the voting process in Maricopa county and they're the ones she claims hobbled her chances.
Regardless....there will be no correction. Everyone is moving forward. Democrats are their own worst enemy and even if there were some bizarre mass conspiracy to cheat, it still wouldn't be enough to keep them in office.
I am tired of the "not a great candidate" bullsheet. She was painted as an election denier for months and there is a ton of evidence that elections are completely f/cked in Maricopa country and the state of AZ.

While I don't agree with everything she stands for, she is absolutely correct that the open borders are a travesty and the integrity of the elections is horrendous. I have seen terrible candidates from both sides of the aisle and Kari, while not perfect is no where near the level of stupid I have seen elsewhere.






The "not a great candidate" is more because of her idiotically self sabotaging support from a large amount of Arizona republicans but insulting them just for some internet high fives from the far right base. Do you think Fetterman went around telling a bunch of PA Dems to "get the hell out" the way Lake did? She doesn't do that she probably wins.

Or if they had nominated Taylor Robson they probably win too. The Republican State Treasurer won easily and outperformed Lake by 118k votes.
No, Fetterman didn't "go around" and do anything. He didn't campaign at all, just like Biden and just like Hobbs. But they all still won, oddly enough. Not enough support at the few speeches they did give to fill a closet, but still won.

Doesn't seem strange to me at all. The stars that fill large venues lose to the morons that don't campaign at all.
Don't forget the fuggin DEAD GUY that ran zero campaign and got elected.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

BluHorseShu said:

aggiehawg said:

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Why do people use attendance at large venues as a gauge for support? I voted for Trump but wouldn't be at all interested in attending a 'rally''.
Gee, maybe because spending time and money to attend one is a sign of support?
Gee, I guess that's the only sign of support for candidates? My apologies, you're correct. And I also forgot about the special Trump coins that sold out, thus solidifying his '24 election as President. It's probably not that fools and their money are soon separated. The Koch brothers are about to throw a huge amount behind someone other than Trump...and I think they are even allowed to do it without having to attend a rally.
Alternatively, you would say the willingness to go to a venue to hear a politician speak doesn't imply a level of support? If Trump and Biden throw a rally in Maricopa County, you can't draw any conclusions from their relative attendance?
Of course it does, but its doesn't mean its correlative. Many of Bidens voters might not have had vehicle to attend any rallies. I'm just saying that the fad of going to rallies doesnt prove that more people will support someone during the election. Lots of people go to Nickelback concerts...but they still suck.
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beto drew big crowds, ted cruz didn't (because he didn't need to). fetterman, hobbs, and biden knew the same thing he did: never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.

luckily for us, our elected officials are determined by vote and not by who can sell out concert venues. otherwise beyonce would be president.
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Old McDonald said:

beto drew big crowds, ted cruz didn't
show me the Katie Hobbs or John Fetterwoman rally with crowds like Cruz in 2018?

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Old McDonald said:

beto drew big crowds, ted cruz didn't (because he didn't need to). fetterman, hobbs, and biden knew the same thing he did: never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.

luckily for us, our elected officials are determined by vote and not by who can sell out concert venues. otherwise beyonce would be president.


Not to mention there were 5 million votes in the PA senate race and about 2.5 million in the AZ governor race. Having the same few thousand diehards at every event doesn't really show a quantity of votes, just that you have a really passionate, objectively small (compared to the voting population) base of support who has nothing better to do, or has a strange hero worship like people had for Obama and Trump. There's a giant gap of support level between "I'm going to a rally for someone" and "I don't love this option but I'm fine voting for this person because I have two choices and I hate one of them."
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oh no said:

Old McDonald said:

beto drew big crowds, ted cruz didn't
show me the Katie Hobbs or John Fetterwoman rally with crowds like Cruz in 2018?


Thank you for the the post. This would qualify, according to Clapper, as the "kill shot".
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YES!! we got one of the approved debunked talking points out of another programmed npc!!!

Oh yeah! I'm sure it must have just been the same few thousand people at all of Kari Lake's rallies over and over again that made her appear popular even though everyone in AZ really just loved Katie Hobbs sooo much!

THERE! DEBUNKED!!!! Now no one can question the funny business with the machines, the lack of chain of custody, or any other irregularities on election day and Maricopa county has a mandate to not ever improve controls or security in any of their systems or processes, because Im sure it would be racist voter suppression.
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oh no said:

Old McDonald said:

beto drew big crowds, ted cruz didn't
show me the Katie Hobbs or John Fetterwoman rally with crowds like Cruz in 2018?


why did you choose a picture of Cruz at a liberty university convocation in 2014 as your example? seems like an odd choice.

https://www.liberty.edu/news/2014/04/02/sen-ted-cruz-spurs-crowd-to-stand-up-for-religious-freedom/
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it appears that alphabet has failed me when I did a google image search for "Ted Cruz 2018 crowd"

Duck Duck Go, however, has pointed me to a packed, sold out Toyota Center arena in Houston TX on October 22, 2018.

Please keep the hyperbole coming when you compare Ted Cruz in TX in 2018 to Katie Fn Hobbs. They are not comparable. Robert Francis Real Pandejo had crowds and so did Cruz. Hobbs, Fetterman, Biden: nobody... but you've already bought the talking points that have been fed by pravda and will convince yourself it's totally legit anyway.

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You posted a miss leading picture and that means I believe leftist propaganda? Huh?

I don't think any person being honest with believe that cruise had bigger crowds than Beto. Beto had an entire cult of personality around him, and people worshiped him. Not so with Cruz.

We supported Cruz because of his policy
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oh so now you want to change your argument from Lake-Hobbs = Robert Francis-Cruz to Robert Francis had bigger crowds than Cruz? I never said Cruz had bigger crowds than Real Pandejo. I said Cruz was popular and did have crowds very very very much unlike Katie Hobbs.
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This far into the discussion and nothing about the boat rallies?
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$2K is nothing but the finding that Lake's pleadings contained statements of fact they knew to be false is significant.
 
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