Putin to announce the end of the special operation tomorrow

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Time will tell. All I will say is the ones reporting it have been wrong almost 0 times since the start of the war when I started following them. These guys running these telegram channels are deeply embedded within units and command inside the Russian military
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vance- said:

Time will tell. All I will say is the ones reporting it have been wrong almost 0 times since the start of the war when I started following them. These guys running these telegram channels are deeply embedded within units and command inside the Russian military
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Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty
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Yah, guess we will know if this is BS soon enough.
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Agthatbuilds said:

Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty


Uh, yeah, actually, since this war has started they have been spot on.
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I don't think a "war" declaration means much on the battlefield immediately. I think it's more likely something the Russians had to do to unshackle themselves from a military production standpoint. An official war declaration removes the red tape and probably allows the Russian government to force the private sector to produce the armaments they desperately need to equip the many new call-ups.

In short, I think it would be more a domestic move to unleash more Russian effort into the Ukrainian war.
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Exactly.
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vance- said:

Sure, they have lost a lot, but so has Ukraine. And 99.9% of people dont realize just how large the Russian military complex is. Trust me, this war could get a WHOLE lot bloodier. Russia wasnt ranked as the second most powerful military in the world for nothing. Dont believe everything the media says, especially in the west. Storylines are typically true but the #'s are wayyy inflated.

They showed their cards. Their military equipment is dog ***** And they sent some of their best stuff into Ukraine to get destroyed. Release the pearl necklace and stop clutching it so hard.

It's a bluff. If you ever played poker at a casino, this is it goes. He's the drunk guy that keeps throwing good chips after bad. He's almost out of chips.

If he hits NATO with anything (especially a nuke) then that country is done. It's a bluff.
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Agthatbuilds said:

Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty


Uh, yeah, actually, since this war has started they have been spot on.


That's patently false and helps explains your disposition.
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We beat COVID. I'm pretty sure America can beat a Russian nuclear war. They feel about the same to me.
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You think the Russians have been shackling themselves with conventional production this whole time? Please.


This is nothing more than Putin declaring in a speech "I really mean it this time."

I'm going to bed, where I will sleep like a baby.
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aTmAg said:

You think the Russians have been shackling themselves with conventional production this whole time? Please.


This is nothing more than Putin declaring in a speech "I really mean it this time."

I'm going to bed, where I will sleep like a baby.

A baby with COVID.
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They have kept all of their best equipment OUT of the war. Almost all their modern tanks (T-90s) have been at home in Russia along with their most advanced missle defense-attacking technology.
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Agthatbuilds said:

vance- said:

Agthatbuilds said:

Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty


Uh, yeah, actually, since this war has started they have been spot on.


That's patently false and helps explains your disposition.


And you clearly havent been following the war closely. Russian telegram channels have been spot on the entire war with their tactical analysis' and predictions as well as # reports. What are you talking about?
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aTmAg said:

You think the Russians have been shackling themselves with conventional production this whole time? Please.


This is nothing more than Putin declaring in a speech "I really mean it this time."

I'm going to bed, where I will sleep like a baby.


Yes, believe it or not Russia does have a constitution and there are laws that protect the private sector. For the most part they have been trying to protect their economy.

You think the US was making the same amount of armaments to fight in Vietnam as opposed to what we were making for World War II? I'm not saying Russia is suddenly going to turn into an arms producing juggernaut with a declaration of war, but the government having the power to force arms production is going to increase output.
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The ides of March
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Clearly. Lol.
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vance- said:

Agthatbuilds said:

Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty


Uh, yeah, actually, since this war has started they have been spot on.


Found the Russian bot
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vance- said:

Agthatbuilds said:

vance- said:

Agthatbuilds said:

Yes, the Russian embeds are known for their accuracy and honesty


Uh, yeah, actually, since this war has started they have been spot on.


That's patently false and helps explains your disposition.


And you clearly havent been following the war closely. Russian telegram channels have been spot on the entire war with their tactical analysis' and predictions as well as # reports. What are you talking about?


You realize there's entire thread here with analytical information right? You're welcome to post your accurate stuff there.
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The t90 blows up just like the rest. Fun article i read just today. Nice timing.

https://defence-blog.com/ukrainian-troops-blow-up-russian-t-90m-with-at4-recoilless-gun/
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Found the bot who cant do their own research
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vance- said:

They have kept all of their best equipment OUT of the war. Almost all their modern tanks (T-90s) have been at home in Russia along with their most advanced missle defense-attacking technology.

You do realize that their losses (including some of their best units are well documented don't you)

So your argument is that Russia was willing to invade Ukraine with their worst equipment, lose over 100k soldiers (some of them elite), their flagship naval vessel, hundreds of their fighter jets, millions of rounds of artillery shells, and enforce a military draft on the poorer regions to get to this point?

A point where they would pull out the big stuff that they were holding back for this moment where they could finally declare war against the west and take over the world?

A world that opposes their rape and killing of a country that they invaded without reason?

They better have some really good **** if they want to try and take the world at this point.
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Found the bot who cant do their own research


On Russian propaganda sites? Again, you're welcome to get your ass handed to you with your information on the official Ukraine war thread.
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FriscoKid said:

vance- said:

They have kept all of their best equipment OUT of the war. Almost all their modern tanks (T-90s) have been at home in Russia along with their most advanced missle defense-attacking technology.

You do realize that their losses (including some of their best units are well documented don't you)

So your argument is that Russia was willing to invade Ukraine with their worst equipment, lose over 100k soldiers (some of them elite), their flagship naval vessel, hundreds of their fighter jets, millions of rounds of artillery shells, and enforce a military draft on the poorer regions to get to this point?

A point where they would pull out the big stuff that they were holding back for this moment where they could finally declare war against the west and take over the world?

A world that opposes their rape and killing of a country that they invaded without reason?

They better have some really good **** if they want to try and take the world at this point.


He doesn't believe any of this actual happened. It's all "western propaganda".
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More importantly, putin is declaring war now. All this other stuff was just games.

Now, they're really going to try
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Agthatbuilds said:

More importantly, putin is declaring war now. All this other stuff was just games.

Now, they're really going to try


I can't wait to see their super secret advanced weaponry they have yet to unveil. The kid in the class of 2026 told me all about it. Just wait.
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Russian propoganda? Really. U know f****** nothing. These guys have been the best reporters the war has seen. Just because they are Russian doesnt mean they spew propoganda. Again, if you did your own research you would see these guys have been accurate, and a lot of westerners get their info from these guys.
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They have kept all of their best equipment OUT of the war. Almost all their modern tanks (T-90s) have been at home in Russia along with their most advanced missle defense-attacking technology.


I'm just confused about this statement.

Russias problem with their tanks is more tactical than it is capability. Simply bringing newer tanks to the battlefield won't change the calculation much unless they happen to change their typical tactics with it.

What, besides the tanks, can they bring to the table that might change the course of this war? Sounds like Hitler and his delusions about his special weapons
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Lots and lots of Russian telegram channels are reporting tomorrow Putin will deliver a speech in which he will end the "special operation" and begin the "full scale war". Nobody really knows what this implies yet, but tomorrow could be a huge day in the world of geopolitics. Should be interesting


Others aren't so sure, Geroman and Russians With Attitude are doubtful any big announcements are made.
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FriscoKid said:

vance- said:

Sure, they have lost a lot, but so has Ukraine. And 99.9% of people dont realize just how large the Russian military complex is. Trust me, this war could get a WHOLE lot bloodier. Russia wasnt ranked as the second most powerful military in the world for nothing. Dont believe everything the media says, especially in the west. Storylines are typically true but the #'s are wayyy inflated.

They showed their cards. Their military equipment is dog ***** And they sent some of their best stuff into Ukraine to get destroyed. Release the pearl necklace and stop clutching it so hard.

It's a bluff. If you ever played poker at a casino, this is it goes. He's the drunk guy that keeps throwing good chips after bad. He's almost out of chips.

If he hits NATO with anything (especially a nuke) then that country is done. It's a bluff.


Russia has proven beyond any shadow of a d9ubt they are incapable of producing modern weapons effectively. Their miracle tanks and fighters that are supposed to be near peer with western units are non existent in the field, and what they're fielding is technologically so old, they've missed 2-3 generations of major development.

They have a ton of troops, but this is not the USSR, the commisars and the NKVD are not there executing every soldier that sneezes in a capitalist way.... conscripts don't work against major targets.

OTOH, Ukraine is fundamentally rewriting naval doctrine, and will likely attack and sink several more heavy cruiser units before the Russian figure out small boats are dangerous too..
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RebelE Infantry said:

vance- said:

Lots and lots of Russian telegram channels are reporting tomorrow Putin will deliver a speech in which he will end the "special operation" and begin the "full scale war". Nobody really knows what this implies yet, but tomorrow could be a huge day in the world of geopolitics. Should be interesting


Others aren't so sure, Geroman and Russians With Attitude are doubtful any big announcements are made.


Geroman usually holds off speculation till it is official, but you could be right. Again, I didnt say Putin was going to make this announcement, I just said it is being reported thay he might.
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I dont have the answer to that. All I know is fact, not the reason behind it. It is fact Russia has kept their best equipment out of the war. Now as to why? Beats me. They are losing after all
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They've actually lost about 30 t90s. They allegedly have about 600 hulls overall, but there seems to be some speculation that a good number of those are not operational. Estimates put operational one at around 200 from what I've seen.
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The T90 is a giant piece of ****. Just like everything else of theirs.
 
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