2000 Mules

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Lol at anyone calling keegan of all people a liberal.
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You speak out against anyone on the right, even if you are a right winged person, you are labeled a liberal or concerned moderate. It's the Texags F16 way
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Yep. I've been called liberal numerous times and its always a hoot.
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A five minute video showing a "day in the life of a mule", with a credentialed presenter at a digital white board showing a map, the cell phone tracking, the NGOs, and video of the same individual making multiple drops. All time-synced. "Here is ironclad, irrefutable proof of what happened. And we have evidence this occurred at scale."
How would you have expected them to do this? They aren't going to actually show the NGOs. They aren't doing policework. That would just be asking for lawsuits or to be suicided, and even if they did show names or pictures of the buildings for these not-for-profit orgs, skeptics will just want more - why didn't D'Souza show proof of the money changing hands to the mules? ..and how many times does TTV or D'Souza have to explain most of the dropboxes don't have cameras? They have irrefutable proof from the cell data that the same phones visited a lot of boxes + the NGOs. For some of them, where there actually was a camera, they have synced video of them stuffing more than one ballot. That is really all you can do at that point, but still, that should be more than enough to open eyes about how weak the mail-in ballot and dropbox system is, convince actual DOJ or police investigators to look at the money flowing to the NGOs, and convince state legislatures to close these obvious easy fraud control gaps.
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As much as most of us would like to see this result in people going to jail, the larger objective at this point is to fix the system so that cheaters can't win.

That doesn't require beyond-a-reasonable-doubt proof like a court case. It requires sufficient evidence to convince people that cheating occurred and hopefully motivate them to pressure the legislature to make changes. It should also convince people to punish the party responsible for this through voting and activism or just plainly speaking out against those responsible to their own circle of influence.

This is the primary purpose of the movie. Motivate people to reject those responsible. If LE can also get interested and involved, then that is the icing on the cake. This board is far more aware and engaged than the general public on issues like this movie so the level of expectations are not going to be the same. I would imagine that a run of the mill average Joe on the street who hasn't really paid attention to all of this in much detail would have quite a different reaction than your typical f16 dweller. I think Dinesh made a movie for the former, not the latter. The latter already knew all of this stuff before the movie.
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oh no said:

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A five minute video showing a "day in the life of a mule", with a credentialed presenter at a digital white board showing a map, the cell phone tracking, the NGOs, and video of the same individual making multiple drops. All time-synced. "Here is ironclad, irrefutable proof of what happened. And we have evidence this occurred at scale."
How would you have expected them to do this? They aren't going to actually show the NGOs. They aren't doing policework. That would just be asking for lawsuits or to be suicided, and even if they did show names or pictures of the buildings for these not-for-profit orgs, skeptics will just want more - why didn't D'Souza show proof of the money changing hands to the mules? ..and how many times does TTV or D'Souza have to explain most of the dropboxes don't have cameras? They have irrefutable proof from the cell data that the same phones visited a lot of boxes + the NGOs. For some of them, where there actually was a camera, they have synced video of them stuffing more than one ballot. That is really all you can do at that point, but still, that should be more than enough to open eyes about how weak the mail-in ballot and dropbox system is, convince actual DOJ or police investigators to look at the money flowing to the NGOs, and convince state legislatures to close these obvious easy fraud control gaps.

Why aren't they actually going to show the NGOs? You think 60 Minutes would hesitate to show the NGOs? Nope.

Make. The. Best. Case.

They claim to have video of the same individual making multiple drops in the same day.

Let's see it. That's incredibly damning and makes it real in a way for people that tracking data doesn't.

It shatters the excuses for visits. "Oh he was just driving voters to drop off ballots... Oh he was just checking to see if the drop box was full..." When you have video of multiple drops in the same day - the excuses will dissipate.

Make. The. Best. Case.
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CNN watchers, anarchists who hate America and love what Biden is doing to it, communists.. I don't know how they got there, but they are already convinced there's no fraud and it was the most secure election ever. They won't be convinced by the mountains of concerning evidence, witness testimonies, or data anomalies. Whether evidence is anecdotal or real, it should at least beg questions deserves some real answers, but they can find a talking point to DEBOOOOK them all without even looking because they don't want to take a serious look. Even when audit reports like the Maricopa Co one present - not 100% fraud proof, but a whole long list of real, irrefutable security and fraud risk control gaps that should be addressed, they will fight it. They want the control gaps. Anti-fraud controls would be racist. If you can't 100% prove the fraud because of a weak system with unauditable control gaps, then we should keep the system the same, you racists! What True the Vote just put out is the most convincing evidence yet and it's credible - it's plenty to go off of.. if you sit there and dismiss the whole thing because they didn't show mules on video at drop boxes that didn't have cameras, and try to come up with excuses like maybe they were uber drivers - it's just because you don't want to see it.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.

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You want to put pressure on lawmakers and law enforcement? Great!

The type of folks that take the time and spend the money to watch 2000 Mules are not going to be adequate, both in number and demeanor, to achieve that objective.

Understand the task of pressuring lawmakers is going to require persuading people that currently believe nothing was amiss with the 2020 election.

To persuade someone, know that you will have a very short window where they will listen. Five to ten minutes is generous.

You cannot rant. You cannot be all-over-the-place in terms of message coherence. You cannot come off as some partisan hack.

You have to present damning, slam-dunk evidence in a calm, rational, professional, objective fashion. That evidence needs to be so robust that the listener cannot readily formulate an alternative, innocent explanation. Video is king. Data presentations are good, but not great. A talking head is useless.

It is only at that point that the listener's mind will be open to hearing more. And additional evidence must be presented in the same manner.


That's the task. And so far, we don't have what we need to accomplish that task.
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You don't have to watch it. It happened.
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Keegan99 said:

When you take the field, you play your best game.

You don't give a half-ass effort.
I bet you believe Jan 6 though don't you.
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GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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GeorgiAg, you are a Democrat right?

There are still Democrats that believe Trump was a Russian agent who stole the 2016 election. I have a friend like that actually. He is a pretty smart guy and was fairly politically astute until 2016. He is now just crazy. What % of Democrats still believe that? It is probably a majority even after the entire story was exposed.

There are still people wearing masks, outdoors, in public, to protect themselves from a virus that is going to kill them.

This is not a lot different in the level of belief. It is just a different group of people.
The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln.



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He's been presented with that fact numerous times..i don't think he can deduce the ramifications of that fact.
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richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
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agsalaska said:

GeorgiAg, you are a Democrat right?

There are still Democrats that believe Trump was a Russian agent who stole the 2016 election. I have a friend like that actually. He is a pretty smart guy and was fairly politically astute until 2016. He is now just crazy. What % of Democrats still believe that? It is probably a majority even after the entire story was exposed.

There are still people wearing masks, outdoors, in public, to protect themselves from a virus that is going to kill them.

This is not a lot different in the level of belief. It is just a different group of people.

I'm not a democrat. I will vote DeSantis in the primary, and I'd vote for Trump over Biden or Harris or Buttplug in '24.

After Trump said, "Russia if you're listening..." and was cozy with Russians, I was open to hear the accusations. Russians are corrupt as hell and known for kompromat. After the Mueller report, I know it's all false. Trump just likes to say irritating crap all the time, so I've learned to ignore that and focus on policy.

I got two shots and no booster. I stopped wearing masks a long time ago. During Covid I would wear a mask in the pharmacy b/c it was required, then go 10 minutes later to Sporting Goods store and not wear one b/c no one there cared. Ridiculous.

This is as baseless as the Russia investigation.
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GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
There are poll workers who admitted to taking entire boxes full of ballots from conservative districts and throwing them away. Do think those same people are unwilling to blindly accept ballots from liberal districts regardless of what is written on the envelope?

And the fact that you are discounting the movie before you see it says a lot about your lack of open-mindedness. (I have yet to see it myself, but I'm not taking sides either way yet)
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GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
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GeorgiAg said:

agsalaska said:

GeorgiAg, you are a Democrat right?

There are still Democrats that believe Trump was a Russian agent who stole the 2016 election. I have a friend like that actually. He is a pretty smart guy and was fairly politically astute until 2016. He is now just crazy. What % of Democrats still believe that? It is probably a majority even after the entire story was exposed.

There are still people wearing masks, outdoors, in public, to protect themselves from a virus that is going to kill them.

This is not a lot different in the level of belief. It is just a different group of people.

I'm not a democrat. I will vote DeSantis in the primary, and I'd vote for Trump over Biden or Harris or Buttplug in '24.

After Trump said, "Russia if you're listening..." and was cozy with Russians, I was open to hear the accusations. Russians are corrupt as hell and known for kompromat. After the Mueller report, I know it's all false. Trump just likes to say irritating crap all the time, so I've learned to ignore that and focus on policy.

I got two shots and no booster. I stopped wearing masks a long time ago. During Covid I would wear a mask in the pharmacy b/c it was required, then go 10 minutes later to Sporting Goods store and not wear one b/c no one there cared. Ridiculous.

This is as baseless as the Russia investigation.
Maybe there should be some formal investigation, like there was for the Russia investigation, before coming to that conclusion so, er, conclusively.
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Fair enough. I mistook you for another poster.

But I agree with you.

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Keegan99 said:

When you take the field, you play your best game.

You don't give a half-ass effort.
Dishonest perspective is dishonest. The movie was far from a half-a effort.
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The largest election fraud case in Georgia history was 21 voters. They were caught and prosecuted.

https://apnews.com/article/9e8f317984455dcaa6b49b356a667d56

This is on a scale more than 500 times larger, and it's been two years with the most election scrutiny ever and no one has been caught?
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GeorgiAg said:

The largest election fraud case in Georgia history was 21 voters. They were caught and prosecuted.

https://apnews.com/article/9e8f317984455dcaa6b49b356a667d56

This is on a scale more than 500 times larger, and it's been two years with the most election scrutiny ever and no one has been caught?
You're absurd.
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GeorgiAg said:

The largest election fraud case in Georgia history was 21 voters. They were caught and prosecuted.

https://apnews.com/article/9e8f317984455dcaa6b49b356a667d56

This is on a scale more than 500 times larger, and it's been two years with the most election scrutiny ever and no one has been caught?
Democrats were cheating on a huge scale in Chicago for decades and it wasn't until a multi-year (and record breaking) FBI investigation with subpoena power, supportive judges, and an honest media to expose it.

Nothing like that has been even hinted at for the 2020 election. The notion that this election had the "most scrutiny ever" is not close to being true.
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And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb
Barfed a whole wall of text only to end with this. We get it. You voted for Biden in GA and you will believe every vote for Biden was legitimate and will choose to ignore any and all evidence indicating otherwise.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
That's not true.
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GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
That's not true.
I'm convinced!
richardag
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GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?

Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Funky Winkerbean said:

GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
That's not true.
I'm convinced!
DEBOOONKED!!
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oh no said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
That's not true.
I'm convinced!
DEBOOONKED!!
Who's claiming anything is "deboonked"?
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Funky Winkerbean said:

GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:


Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope. Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes? How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
Georgia illegally removed the signature verification requirement for the 2020 election. (Illegal because the legislature did not vote to do so)
That's not true.
I'm convinced!
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21151049/absentee-ballot-settlement-agreement.pdf

Here is the March 2020 Court Order discussing signature match.

Quote:

The March 2020 settlement did two things: It called for election officials to check with their co-workers before rejecting an absentee ballot because of a mismatched signature, and it required election workers to quickly notify voters when their ballots were rejected, as mandated by a state election rule.

Afterward, the rejection rate of absentee ballots because of signature issues remained unchanged in 2020 compared with the previous two general elections. About 0.2% of absentee ballots were rejected because of signature problems in each of those three elections, according to state election data.
The rejection rate of absentee ballots for signature mismatch was the same as in the prior two elections.
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GeorgiAg said:

agsalaska said:

GeorgiAg, you are a Democrat right?

There are still Democrats that believe Trump was a Russian agent who stole the 2016 election. I have a friend like that actually. He is a pretty smart guy and was fairly politically astute until 2016. He is now just crazy. What % of Democrats still believe that? It is probably a majority even after the entire story was exposed.

There are still people wearing masks, outdoors, in public, to protect themselves from a virus that is going to kill them.

This is not a lot different in the level of belief. It is just a different group of people.

I'm not a democrat. I will vote DeSantis in the primary, and I'd vote for Trump over Biden or Harris or Buttplug in '24.

After Trump said, "Russia if you're listening..." and was cozy with Russians, I was open to hear the accusations. Russians are corrupt as hell and known for kompromat. After the Mueller report, I know it's all false. Trump just likes to say irritating crap all the time, so I've learned to ignore that and focus on policy.

I got two shots and no booster. I stopped wearing masks a long time ago. During Covid I would wear a mask in the pharmacy b/c it was required, then go 10 minutes later to Sporting Goods store and not wear one b/c no one there cared. Ridiculous.

This is as baseless as the Russia investigation.
  • Which this? The mules, the masks.

I agree with this post, excluding the last sentence as I am not sure to what it refers.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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County registrars and absentee ballot clerks are required, upon receipt of each mail-in absentee ballot, to compare the signature or mark of the elector on the mail-in absentee ballot envelope with the signatures or marks in eNet and on the application for the mail-in absentee ballot. If the signature does not appear to be valid, registrars and clerks are required to follow the procedure set forth in O.C.G.A. 21-2386(a)(1)(C). When reviewing an elector's signature on the mail-in absentee ballot envelope, the registrar or clerk must compare the signature on the mail-in absentee ballot envelope to each signature contained in such elector's voter registration record in eNet and the elector's signature on the application for the mail-in absentee ballot. If the registrar or absentee ballot clerk determines that the voter's signature on the mail-in absentee ballot envelope does not match any of the voter's signatures on file in eNet or on the absentee ballot application, the registrar or absentee ballot clerk must seek review from two other registrars, deputy registrars, or absentee ballot clerks. A mailin absentee ballot shall not be rejected unless a majority of the registrars, deputy registrars, or absentee ballot clerks reviewing the signature agree that the signature does not match any of the voter's signatures on file in eNet or on the absentee ballot application. If a determination is made that the elector's signature on the mail-in absentee ballot envelope does not match any of the voter's signatures on file in eNet or on the absentee ballot application, the registrar or absentee ballot clerk shall write the names of the three elections officials who conducted the signature review across the face of the absentee ballot envelope, which shall be in addition to writing "Rejected" and the reason for the rejection as required under OCGA 21-2-386(a)(1)(C). T
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richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?


1) The Affidavits were all thrown out by Courts. They know the number of people who requested absentee ballots and they know the number of absentee ballots cast. If X =/= Y, then something is fishy. 11,000 additional ballots did not appear out of thin air, undetected? No.

2) How did the "organizations they visited .... obtain them? They only mail them to the registered address of the voter. How did the organization do this for 11,000 + ballots & envelopes?

3) Signature verification was not ignored. Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. They compare the signature to an online database, eNet and to the ballot envelope. Again, they ignored 11,000 signatures with no one being caught by a Republican-run election?
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GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?


1) The Affidavits were all thrown out by Courts. They know the number of people who requested absentee ballots and they know the number of absentee ballots cast. If X =/= Y, then something is fishy. 11,000 additional ballots did not appear out of thin air, undetected? No.
  • Cases dismissed for various reasons, affidavits ignored
2) How did the "organizations they visited .... obtain them? They only mail them to the registered address of the voter. How did the organization do this for 11,000 + ballots & envelopes?
  • The voter registration roles weren't up to date and properly maintained
  • Mail in ballots received after they should have been, and in the middle of the night with no chain of custody.
3) Signature verification was not ignored. Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. They compare the signature to an online database, eNet and to the ballot envelope. Again, they ignored 11,000 signatures with no one being caught by a Republican-run election?
  • Affidavits claiming the signatures not properly verified.

To date there has not been a thorough honest transparent investigation by law enforcement.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
 
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