GeorgiAg said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The part of this conspiracy theory that is the most ridiculous, at least in Georgia, is that the mules somehow managed to know exactly who wasn't going to fill out absentee ballots and fraudulently fill them out for them.

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Gee, could that be related to the fact the entire state's voter rolls including voting history was stolen in September 2019? And those voter rolls were not updated before the 2020 election?

And that some election workers allegedly from the ACLU had the same voter rolls on their laptops? Apparently there was a problem on election day at a large precinct where the voter sign in system was not booting up. So this ACLU gal said, "No problem. I have a copy on my laptop."

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Voter rolls are public.

https://sos.ga.gov/page/order-voter-registration-lists-and-files

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With voting history?

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Yes. You can buy Fulton County for $50. It has a bunch of info but it says how they voted in the last election. It's not illegal.

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Isn't how you voted supposed to be anonymous?
It sounds like an open door for voter intimidation.

About 24 hours after watching the film and then listening to the Wisconsin legislature committee hearing with Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, the more I chew on it, the more I dislike this film and the entire approach thus far by TTV.

During the Wisconsin hearing, Phillips said that TTV actually figured out the actual names of the individual Wisconsin mules. In addition, they know the names of the 501c3's that were organizing and administering this ballot harvesting effort. Also, in response to Dinesh's question whether they have video evidence of mules making multiple drops to multiple boxes, Phillips answered affirmatively.

So, we supposedly have the names of the perpetrators of this scheme, the name of the organizations that administered the scheme, and video of the actual crimes happening...and what do we get in the film? Literally none of those things. You don't need an hour and half PPV vanity project by Dinesh to blow open this story. But that's what we got.

There was no harvesting. These corrupt MFers just hit print on the fraudulent ballot machine.

Baron von Bulsh said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The part of this conspiracy theory that is the most ridiculous, at least in Georgia, is that the mules somehow managed to know exactly who wasn't going to fill out absentee ballots and fraudulently fill them out for them. I'm going to FFW to the end: it didn't happen. Otherwise there would have been a huge number of double ballots per voter on the voter roll.

What might have happened is ballot harvesting where people voted and someone delivered it to a ballot box that wasn't related to them. It's illegal and I could see that happening in some instances but not on the order of 10s of thousands. That's why Georgia has now closed outdoor ballot boxes. They are now all indoors so they can be locked at night and there will be cameras on them.

But these were real people voting -- They were on the voter roll, otherwise the vote would not have been counted. Also there is no way to prove whether those ballots shown in whatever random video were for Trump or Biden. Same for whatever Geolocating whatever. You are assuming this was someone delivering Biden ballots -- again this ballots were from real voters on the voter roll otherwise the vote would not have been counted.

So in order for this to be large scale fraud, on the order of 10s of thousands. Large numbers of otherwise Trump voters or independents somehow didn't vote and the dems knew exactly who this was, obtained their absentee ballot, filled it out for Biden and took it to a ballot box? That's ridiculous.

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Again, you really really should watch the movie

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What he posted amount to the direct claims made in the movie. The IMPLICATION that is never outright claimed is that the ballots were fabricated.

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You have any other explanation?

I don't. And I actually do the research to find one. Would love to see one. Where did the ballots at NGOs originate and how did they get there?

Tell me that with a rational credible, data based link and I will STFU.

Really. I want to be wrong here. But nothing I am seeing tells me I am other than the usual Blue Anon trolls who have a healthier bank account but zero valuable information that can be verified.

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The claim that these were real voters for, for a variety of reasons, don't typically vote and had their votes harvested and then deposited by third parties is far more believable than any other explanation. That's actual the ONLY claim for which any strong evidence exists.

We know for a fact many groups spent a great deal of time trolling for votes at nursing homes, retirement communities and going to poor and elderly neighborhoods offering voting assistance. I would imagine if you could somehow get the demographics of all the mass deposited votes, the average age would be well above 65. It is entirely feasible that votes from those who otherwise don't normally vote make up the overwhelming majority of the "questionable" votes.

It's just not plausible that hundreds of thousands of ballots from dead people, those who have moved and fabricated ballots were produced in such a way. It would be impossible to hide that. Such votes make up a very, very tiny portion of voting fraud in any election.

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So you are implying that these partisan NGO's, who had the voter rolls and knew who was most unlikely to vote, used their time and resources to track all of these people down and encouraged them to vote? Instead of, say.... just filling out the ballots themselves because they knew there would be NO ballot scrutinization?

I guess I have become too cynical, and am just not as trusting as you.

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Assuming this happened on anywhere near the scale in question, I imagine more often than not the ballots were obtained under the guise of voting assistance and then filled out for them.

I'm glad Woodward and Bernstein, the Boston Globe in their reporting about sexual crimes in the Catholic church, Christine Pelisek, John MacCormack, every podcast out right now that features middle aged women talking about old murders, and really the entire history of American journalism that values truth as an absolute defense to libel don't share your ice cold take.

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About 24 hours after watching the film and then listening to the Wisconsin legislature committee hearing with Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, the more I chew on it, the more I dislike this film and the entire approach thus far by TTV.

During the Wisconsin hearing, Phillips said that TTV actually figured out the actual names of the individual Wisconsin mules. In addition, they know the names of the 501c3's that were organizing and administering this ballot harvesting effort. Also, in response to Dinesh's question whether they have video evidence of mules making multiple drops to multiple boxes, Phillips answered affirmatively.

So, we supposedly have the names of the perpetrators of this scheme, the name of the organizations that administered the scheme, and video of the actual crimes happening...and what do we get in the film? Literally none of those things. You don't need an hour and half PPV vanity project by Dinesh to blow open this story. But that's what we got.

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I'll let the legal experts here answer why releasing those names publicly is probably a bad idea.

But I want to ask you a question. If you witnessed a murder and knew who committed it, would you tell the police or would you tell the news reporter interviewing you?

If the leftists and MSM spent half the energy looking in corruption by the Biden and other government leaders (Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, Schiff, etc), that they waste making up Schiff to "debunk" anyone who questions the Democrat talking points, then the country would truly be a beacon of freedom and opportunity.

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4 million hours of tape, no repeat mules.

Math don't add up. Sorry.

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I'd love somebody to give us the timestamp where it says this. Because I don't think it's there.

I'd probably tell literally everyone who'd listen. And I wouldn't charge them $30.

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I'd probably tell literally everyone who'd listen. And I wouldn't charge them $30.

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True The Vote and Dinesh spent millions of dollars producing that film. They deserve to be compensated for their work the same as you and I do for ours.

Ok, first off, I want to disclose that I believe 100% that this election was stolen. But is this the prevailing theory:

- Covid hits at an opportune time and Democrat fraudsters devise a plan to use MIB to win the election.

- To do this, they steal voter rolls and voter history in several key states to analyze hundreds of thousands of people still on the rolls who haven't voted in a long time and request MIBs on behalf of those individuals since it's likely they won't vote.

- These hundreds of thousands of fraudulent MIB's are mailed to the same few NGO address but no one notices.

- In order not to look suspicious, they call Zuckerberg and tell him their plan, but disclose that they need $13 million worth of drop boxes to make it work. Zuckerberg says "I'm in", and donates tons of money to these select states and says "you only get it if you use it for drop boxes".

- Hundreds of drop boxes go up in places where the fraudsters either know there are no cameras, or are certain they can be disabled so as not to capture video evidence of the fraud.

- Republican election officials notice hundreds of new drop boxes going up but think "meh, nothing to see here"

- The Democrat fraudsters find TENS OF THOUSANDS of mules across the country to help carry out the plan (not sure where this list of trustworthy criminals came from).

- The TENS OF THOUSANDS of mules drive across numerous state lines to a few NGO places multiple times a day, but no Republican election watcher notices.

- NOT A SINGLE one of the TENS OF THOUSANDS of mules either gets caught in the act or speaks out afterwards about the plan. In other words, they have COMPLETE unity as to silence.

- On Election Day, the Democrat fraudsters realize that they didn't commit enough fraud and phone in numerous election counting offices and tell them to stop counting for the night (which they all do) and again, Republicans say "meh, nothing to see here".

- The NGO officials make emergency calls to the tens of thousands of mules and say, "quick, come back and get more ballots and drop them off again asap." Which they do, and again, no one notices.

- Biden wins.

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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You really need to watch the movie. The cellphones that showed tracking near the dropboxes outside of the voting dates was dismissed. You're argument is false.

Values truth as an absolute defense to libel, not "values truth." Truth doesn't get much play these days.

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I'd probably tell literally everyone who'd listen. And I wouldn't charge them $30.

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True The Vote and Dinesh spent millions of dollars producing that film. They deserve to be compensated for their work the same as you and I do for ours.

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Watched it all for free online......it's out there.

If you see video evidence of people literally stuffing ballots, and still want more evidence of cheating, you are not worthy of sharing my country with me.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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Latest talking point has been released….

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I thought this up all by myself. Then searched twitter and yep, others have too.

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Watched it all for free online......it's out there.

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Won't stop GeorgiAg from repeating "I'm not going to pay $30 to watch" while maintaining his willful ignorance and using random tweets to "debunk" it at least 5 more times today in addition to yesterday.

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I'm glad Woodward and Bernstein, the Boston Globe in their reporting about sexual crimes in the Catholic church, Christine Pelisek, John MacCormack, every podcast out right now that features middle aged women talking about old murders, and really the entire history of American journalism that values truth as an absolute defense to libel don't share your ice cold take.

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If American journalism still actually valued truth rather than obviously support of one political party over truth then your post might have some meaning. With the main stream journalists making up poorly thought out lies to discredit the content of the movie, as seen above, and with the Democrats paying outrageous amounts for lawyers, and a justice department that ignores the Constitutional rights of those of one political belief accused of trespassing, while those of the other political belief have free reign to attack the White House, burn cities, and intimidate SC justices, justice in this country is neither blind nor fair.

Your cold case examples already have law enforcement involved and work with law enforcement to release names. They also involve isolated events rather than a plot to overthrow the government.

It is up to law enforcement to follow up with actual arrests and convictions. TTV can provide evidence, but it isn't their job to put people on public trial before they are formally accused.

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I thought this up all by myself. Then searched twitter and yep, others have too.

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You "thought"? Based on zero evidence? And without even watching one second of the movie?

Counselor, are you familiar with the term "fabrication"?

Those werent ballots, they were just UberEats orders...

/smoothbrains

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GeorgiAg said:

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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Latest talking point has been released….

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I thought this up all by myself. Then searched twitter and yep, others have too.

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uh huh...

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GeorgiAg said:

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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Latest talking point has been released….

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I thought this up all by myself. Then searched twitter and yep, others have too.

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Still just as false. The "time at location" is included in the data and TTV filtered out passers-by. Only those who were at the site for a period of time are included, and additional analysis was performed to filter out exactly the type of traffic you mentioned.

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The part of this conspiracy theory that is the most ridiculous, at least in Georgia, is that the mules somehow managed to know exactly who wasn't going to fill out absentee ballots and fraudulently fill them out for them.

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Gee, could that be related to the fact the entire state's voter rolls including voting history was stolen in September 2019? And those voter rolls were not updated before the 2020 election?

And that some election workers allegedly from the ACLU had the same voter rolls on their laptops? Apparently there was a problem on election day at a large precinct where the voter sign in system was not booting up. So this ACLU gal said, "No problem. I have a copy on my laptop."

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Voter rolls are public.

https://sos.ga.gov/page/order-voter-registration-lists-and-files

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With voting history?

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Yes. You can buy Fulton County for $50. It has a bunch of info but it says how they voted in the last election. It's not illegal.

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Isn't how you voted supposed to be anonymous?
It sounds like an open door for voter intimidation.

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I doubt it shows who they voted for, just that they voted.

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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You really need to watch the movie. The cellphones that showed tracking near the dropboxes outside of the voting dates was dismissed. You're argument is false.

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The AP article had a quote from a Notre Dame computer science professor who said the cellphone tracking data is not that precise.

I don't disagree with you that it's up to law enforcement to do an investigation and the judicial system to judge these matters.

What I disagree with you with is the absurd notion that there's some sort of legal murkiness or liability in a journalist (or a filmmaker, or a film-making journalist) telling the truth.

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Y'all getting all excited over Uber, Lyft, Door Dash,UPS and USPS drivers. Ballot boxes are not out in a field in the country. These are cities and there is a bunch of stuff around that people are doing other than voting.

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You really need to watch the movie. The cellphones that showed tracking near the dropboxes outside of the voting dates was dismissed. You're argument is false.

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The AP article had a quote from a Notre Dame computer science professor who said the cellphone tracking data is not that precise.

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Are you still arguing about a movie you admittedly haven't and won't watch? What do you think that says about you, "counselor"?

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If the leftists and MSM spent half the energy looking in corruption by the Biden and other government leaders (Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, Schiff, etc), that they waste making up Schiff to "debunk" anyone who questions the Democrat talking points, then the country would truly be a beacon of freedom and opportunity.

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This is the absolute truth.

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The part of this conspiracy theory that is the most ridiculous, at least in Georgia, is that the mules somehow managed to know exactly who wasn't going to fill out absentee ballots and fraudulently fill them out for them.

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Gee, could that be related to the fact the entire state's voter rolls including voting history was stolen in September 2019? And those voter rolls were not updated before the 2020 election?

And that some election workers allegedly from the ACLU had the same voter rolls on their laptops? Apparently there was a problem on election day at a large precinct where the voter sign in system was not booting up. So this ACLU gal said, "No problem. I have a copy on my laptop."

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Voter rolls are public.

https://sos.ga.gov/page/order-voter-registration-lists-and-files

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With voting history?

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Yes. You can buy Fulton County for $50. It has a bunch of info but it says how they voted in the last election. It's not illegal.

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Isn't how you voted supposed to be anonymous?
It sounds like an open door for voter intimidation.

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I doubt it shows who they voted for, just that they voted.

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https://sos.ga.gov/page/order-voter-registration-lists-and-files

Click "columns include in file." It is a ton of info, including "last voted date" and "last voted party."