American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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That's why the remote ballot boxes either need to be eliminated, or Republicans better figure out how to determine where they are and have 24/7 surveillance of them. And screw the inevitable cries of voter intimidation/supression, this is 100% in response to a stolen election and trying to eliminate cheating in the next one.

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American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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That's why the remote ballot boxes either need to be eliminated, or Republicans better figure out how to determine where they are and have 24/7 surveillance of them. And screw the inevitable cries of voter intimidation/supression, this is 100% in response to a stolen election and trying to eliminate cheating in the next one.

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Or drop boxes need cameras in them like an ATM machine?

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Ag87H2O said:

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American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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That's why the remote ballot boxes either need to be eliminated, or Republicans better figure out how to determine where they are and have 24/7 surveillance of them. And screw the inevitable cries of voter intimidation/supression, this is 100% in response to a stolen election and trying to eliminate cheating in the next one.

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Or drop boxes need cameras in them like an ATM machine?

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I would rather they be eliminated alltogether, but this might work. Just spitballing, but make it where only one ballot can be inserted at a time, and the machine stamps a confirmation number on the ballot and prints out a confirmation ticket for the person dropping off the ballot when each ballot is placed. At least that would prevent dumping multiple ballots in the box at once, or at least it would stop the dump and run, and it would tie a specific ballot to an unnamed but photographed/videoed individual.

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At least that would prevent dumping multiple ballots in the box at once, or at least it would stop the dump and run, and it would tie a specific ballot to an unnamed but photographed/videoed individual.

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Doubt that would be constitutional, not with facial recognition these days. But the camera footage, like an ATM machine would show if the same individual had repeated trips to the same drop box or at multiple drop boxes.

The easiest and most cost effective course of action would be just to outlaw drop boxes, altogether. But not enough states have the fortitude to do that.

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Just needs an organized effort to provide 24/7 in person surveillance of each drop box. Video everyone coming and going and ask questions of anyone showing up with more than 2 ballots.

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How about making this really easy and just get rid of drop boxes.
You want election integrity? Vote in person with a valid photo ID.
Pretty damn simple.

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But...but...meemaw can't get to the polls

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Just needs an organized effort to provide 24/7 in person surveillance of each drop box. Video everyone coming and going and ask questions of anyone showing up with more than 2 ballots.

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In person surveillance would quickly get shot down by courts as voter intimidation. Can you imagine the caterwauling about racism over that?

Flagged for trolling

Well that was a post purge! Nice job staff!

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Do you guys really believe this conspiracy theory nonsense? Or is this like an inside joke I'm not aware of?

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The term "conspiracy theory" is used to shut down discussion. Do you have a real question of substance?

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Given the track record of conspiracy theories over the last two years I thought it meant "verified truth", no?

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Anyone who doubts the validity of the cellphone tracking data is just ignorant of how powerful the analytic tools have become.

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And how easy it is for "anonymized" to be made specific to an individual.

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Good question. I'm not in telecommunications, but from my understanding, you'd need phone service provider databases - AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc - to connect the dots. Those service providers are heavily regulated and I'd guess they only provide that data under court order.

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Anyone who doubts the validity of the cellphone tracking data is just ignorant of how powerful the analytic tools have become.

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Good question. I'm not in telecommunications, but from my understanding, you'd need phone service provider databases - AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc - to connect the dots. Those service providers are heavily regulated and I'd guess they only provide that data under court order.

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Not necessarily. Remember they said they could spot out of staters. Like one person who "lived" in South Carolina repeatedly driving into Georgia and going to drop boxes. Follow the pings when they went home. Find the address and do a reverse white page search. Mules have to go home at some point.

American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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And besides not carrying cellphones, the mules will be instructed to only go to drop boxes that do not have video surveillance. And of course there will be accomplices who ensure that video surveillance conveniently doesn't work or is unavailable for dropboxes that do have surveillance.

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American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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That's why the remote ballot boxes either need to be eliminated, or Republicans better figure out how to determine where they are and have 24/7 surveillance of them. And screw the inevitable cries of voter intimidation/supression, this is 100% in response to a stolen election and trying to eliminate cheating in the next one.

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100%!!

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American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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That's why the remote ballot boxes either need to be eliminated, or Republicans better figure out how to determine where they are and have 24/7 surveillance of them. And screw the inevitable cries of voter intimidation/supression, this is 100% in response to a stolen election and trying to eliminate cheating in the next one.

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100%!!

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Game cameras?

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Damn, what did I miss? Who got booted? I've noticed the usual lib mouthpieces showing up spewing their usual drivel. They think the words "conspiracy theory" are magic words that overcome any and all evidence and make their argument automatically correct, evidence be damned.

But I missed the troll cleanup, would love to know which genius got punted.

American Hardwood said:

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The unfortunate effect of revealing the cheat methods will mean that mules will not be carrying their cell phones any more during their election crime sprees. Prosecuting 2020 election crimes is an all-in, make-or-break situation. True the Votes methodology will not be effective a second time.

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In a way this could make the fraud more obvious. The people that were putting one ballot in would likely have their phone. If they counted those pings and then compared it to the total ballots collected there would be a huge disparity.

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Anyone who doubts the validity of the cellphone tracking data is just ignorant of how powerful the analytic tools have become.

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And how easy it is for "anonymized" to be made specific to an individual.

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Good question. I'm not in telecommunications, but from my understanding, you'd need phone service provider databases - AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc - to connect the dots. Those service providers are heavily regulated and I'd guess they only provide that data under court order.

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Not necessarily. Remember they said they could spot out of staters. Like one person who "lived" in South Carolina repeatedly driving into Georgia and going to drop boxes. Follow the pings when they went home. Find the address and do a reverse white page search. Mules have to go home at some point.

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Good point. I do recall the call out of the person who lived in one state but repeatedly traveled to another state's drop boxes. Maybe there is a way to estable ownership outside of the telecommunication databases.

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Good point. I do recall the call out of the person who lived in one state but repeatedly traveled to another state's drop boxes. Maybe there is a way to estable ownership outside of the telecommunication databases.

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From watching a few trials that involved cell phone geolocation recently (like the Chad Halderson case in Wisconsin, guy who dismembered his parents) you'd be surprised how ring doorbells and other home surveillance cameras come into play to easily identify people once you have an address. People will hand that stuff over without a warrant, nor not even necessarily only to police.

Really is wild how much surveillance there is going on out there. Glad I live in the boonies.

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Good Question.

There’s deafening silence from the Republicans regarding 2000 MuIes. Why is that.

— 🌸💃👑Jenny👑💃🌸 (@JenJenn010) May 9, 2022

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even they don't think it's worth attention

I'm going to repeat myself because it applies to Old McDonald as well as blacksox:

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Stop feeding the obvious troll.

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Aye, aye sir.

Oops! Was meant for CSTXAg92.

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Oops! Was meant for CSTXAg92.

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Yep, good call. My bad.

My biggest issue with the whole thing is why does it costs so much to watch?

If it's that big of a deal (which I think it actually is), wouldn't you want anyone and everyone to see it? But instead, you have to either pay $30 for it or buy an annual subscription to his "members only" community. Just feels like a cash grab.

I'm sure he's going to make a ton of money on ancillary things related to the movie, so make the movie free so a lot of folks who are on the fence will watch it.

EDIT: I've watched it, but thank you for the links below. My gripe is more about the ending where he says to get involved and get the message out, but then hides all this pretty damning data behind a high cost for most people.

Watch for free HERE

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My biggest issue with the whole thing is why does it costs so much to watch?

If it's that big of a deal (which I think it actually is), wouldn't you want anyone and everyone to see it? But instead, you have to either pay $30 for it or buy an annual subscription to his "members only" community. Just feels like a cash grab.

I'm sure he's going to make a ton of money on ancillary things related to the movie, so make the movie free so a lot of folks who are on the fence will watch it.

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https://www.bitchute.com/video/oUxVva4yWsuu/

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Oops! Was meant for CSTXAg92.

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Yep, good call. My bad.

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No worries. Neither poster has ever made anything resembling an actual argument (I'm assuming they're incapable)...just those nonsense drive-by posts to rile people up.