****The Trial of Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard****

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Not a Bot
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Why is this politics related?
This is about the worst of cancel culture and the rights of men to not be defamed by bitter, crazy exes (my opinion). This is about allegedly false "me too" claims that cost a man his career and status as a Hollywood star. The mass media is not going to cover this trial fairly, so it is important for the general public to understand the core issues. This may be another Smollett, except with real harm.

What are the issues?
This is going to be a long trial, up to 6 weeks or more, so there's not going to be a summary of everything.

In 2016, Amber Heard and Johnny Depp divorced. During negotiations, she filed a restraining order claiming domestic abuse. At that time, her lawyers sent a letter to the Depp legal team which could be interpreted as a veiled threat, asking for a set sum of money in exchange for potentially problematic information from coming to light. She arrived at court with "bruises" on her body, which she claimed Depp caused. This garnered quite a bit of media attention. They settled their divorce, with Heard receiving $7 million which was to be given to charity. She never gave the money to the charities as promised.

In 2018, at the height of "me too", The Washington Post published a Heard-authored Op-Ed (allegedly co-written by the ACLU) in which she made claims of physical domestic abuse. She did not name Depp in the piece, but it was clear she was referring to him. Depp was quickly cancelled. He lost his role as Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean. He also lost his role in the Harry Potter Fantastic Beasts series. British tabloid The Sun published an article in which Depp was labeled a "wife beater." Depp filed suit against Heard for defamation in Virginia (where WaPo is headquartered) and against The Sun in the UK.

The case against The Sun was settled by a judge (not a jury) in the UK, who determined the statements were not defamation and wrote that he believed Depp assaulted Heard. There was substantial evidence presented that Heard actually abused Depp, including recordings of her own statements. There are multiple inconsistencies in her accounts of abuse, including inconsistencies with other witnesses and police body cam footage. In one example, Heard claimed Depp punched her in the face on Dec 15, 2015 and left her with black eyes and a hurt nose. She appeared on James Corden's show the very next day, with no signs of injury. The makeup stylist testified there were no bruises or marks on her face. As it turns out, (internet rumor alert) the UK judge's relative is a partner in the law firm representing Heard and the judge's wife was apparently chummy with others involved in the case (unsubstantiated internet rumor with some variation). Judge should have recused himself, but did not. Heard was not a party in this case but was forced to testify.

Heard tried to have the case in Virginia thrown out in light of the UK verdict, but the judge refused to do so. Depp is having issues getting Heard to cooperate with court orders to turn over evidence.

Jury selection was today. The trial broadcast will start tomorrow morning. A lot of Hollywood and celebrity types have been subpoenaed.

Potential witnesses include:
James Franco
Elon Musk (had a fling with Heard)
Paul Bettany
Reps from the ACLU, Disney, Warner


Youtube lawyer LegalBytes has published a ton of videos on this case. She's got a pretty conservative take on things. Good channel.

Here's her broad overview:


And a summary of the allegations:


And here's hero Nick Rekeita's quite long, rambling, slightly drunken, yet entertaining stream on the topic:
riverrataggie
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If he's found innocent and that she made all this up I hope he goes after her for a couple movie worth of damages.

He for sure was running at his prime and then poof.
Not a Bot
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riverrataggie said:

If he's found innocent and that she made all this up I hope he goes after her for a couple movie worth of damages.

He for sure was running at his prime and then poof.
He's suing for $50 million. He could have asked for more. A lot of this for him seems to be about clearing his name. A lot of bad things are going to come out, including his rampant drug abuse. To my knowledge no one in Hollywood other than Heard has made claims he is a violent person, whether on drugs or not, and most thought of him as a pretty decent guy.
Demosthenes81
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Sauvage.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
Valtrex11
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Not worth getting Married in the West as man you gain nothing have everything to lose
Not a Bot
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Valtrex11 said:

Not worth getting Married in the West as man you gain nothing have everything to lose
This is a problem outside of marriage, too. No man is safe against this sort of allegation. If a woman gets mad at you for something or sees dollar signs all she has to do is make a public allegation and you are done, whether true or not.
Ags4DaWin
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If you look at his behavior with her on the red carpet and how he reacts whenever she makes a sudden move in his peripheral vision- all of his body language indicates that he is a victim of domestic abuse.

People who get beaten and abused will flinch when their abuser makes sudden movements and will work to make sure they do not turn their back to their abuser, even taking great care to reposition themselves to do so.

When you take that into consideration with some of the statements that have come out i think it highly likely that she abused the **** out of him verbally, and physically and emotionally. And harmed herself to make it look like he hurt her.

Now I could be wrong. And if so I will eat some crow. But that is what I am seeing ATM.
Tanya 93
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She is a lying, using skank.

The only one in that marriage with a permanent injury is Johnny Depp.

And his long time partner and mother of his kids says he was never like that.

Perhaps he wanted her to remain faithful.

Which is ironic since he did not to Vanessa Paradis

I do not remotely believe he was the abuser in that marriage
Valtrex11
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Captain Positivity said:

Valtrex11 said:

Not worth getting Married in the West as man you gain nothing have everything to lose
This is a problem outside of marriage, too. No man is safe against this sort of allegation. If a woman gets mad at you for something or sees dollar signs all she has to do is make a public allegation and you are done, whether true or not.
True but if you are married you are getting fleeced no matter might have a chance if you are not married.
Not a Bot
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There is an allegation, among many other incidents, that she once put out a lit cigarette on his face. She was arrested in 2009 for domestic violence while she was in a relationship with another woman, but the charges were dropped.
Reload8098
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She grew up in a very abusive home. Her mom was a close friend in high school and a total sweetheart. I'll leave it at that.
A_Gang_Ag_06
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Serious Lee
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is it true that she dropped a deuce on depp while he was sleeping?
Tanya 93
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Reload8098 said:

She grew up in a very abusive home. Her mom was a close friend in high school and a total sweetheart. I'll leave it at that.
Does growing up in an abusive home excuse a man for permanently damaging his wife's finger?
Faustus
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Walt Luddiger said:

is it true that she dropped a deuce on depp while he was sleeping?


That ***t didn't happen.
He claims she did leave feces in their bed once though. Some people think there had to have been a second ****ter.
thirdcoast
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Why would we care about a woke leftist becoming a victim of the same tactics he supports on others?
Sea Speed
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thirdcoast said:

Why would we care about a woke leftist becoming a victim of the same tactics he supports on others?


Maybe, just maybe, the metoo types will think twice about trying to ruin someone's life with false allegations, assuming that these turn out to be false. All I can think of.
ABATTBQ11
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I'd do jury duty for this
TyHolden
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This chick ruined the love scene between Jack Sparrow and Jude Law in Fantastic Beasts that Disney wanted so badly to show....
thirdcoast
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Sea Speed said:

thirdcoast said:

Why would we care about a woke leftist becoming a victim of the same tactics he supports on others?


Maybe, just maybe, the metoo types will think twice about trying to ruin someone's life with false allegations, assuming that these turn out to be false. All I can think of.


By "someone" do you mean their spouse?
You cant stop liberals from lying/canceling, you can only hope the court system doesn't allow it.
Sea Speed
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thirdcoast said:

Sea Speed said:

thirdcoast said:

Why would we care about a woke leftist becoming a victim of the same tactics he supports on others?


Maybe, just maybe, the metoo types will think twice about trying to ruin someone's life with false allegations, assuming that these turn out to be false. All I can think of.


By "someone" do you mean their spouse?
You cant stop liberals from lying/canceling, you can only hope the court system doesn't allow it.


I was talking in general. I am certain the movement has been used as a weapon by scorned lovers. Maybe this will give them pause. Probably not, but maybe.
Funky Winkerbean
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It's not a movement, it's cult.
combat wombat™
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Funky Winkerbean said:

It's not a movement, it's cult.


Pretty much. The word of an accusing woman is sacrosanct. Asking ANY questions to verify her story is forbidden.

Liars need to be taken down HARD.

I haven't been following this story, but I do get the impression this woman was the abuser I said a lying (insert your profane word of choice here).
Sea Speed
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Cults have leaders who usually bang the followers. Thst should make a pretty good metoo.
CanyonAg77
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Faustus said:

Walt Luddiger said:

is it true that she dropped a deuce on depp while he was sleeping?


That ***t didn't happen.
He claims she did leave feces in their bed once though. Some people think there had to have been a second ****ter.
Behind the grassy knoll?
MaroonStain
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Depp's manager also stole a bunch of money from him due to Depp being out of touch with his finances.

AHeard was crazy before Depp. He ran into some bad ______.
Not a Bot
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The guy on the witness stand today is hilarious. He's an artist from New York who was friends with them, and lived on the same floor. His art is amazing. Imagine Donna Brazile, Hillary Clinton, and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz in a nude group hug. He also does Star Trek nudes. Not going to link to anything here. Worth a look. His Instagram following has risen tenfold since he started testimony.

Using him to establish some timelines on the alleged injuries to Heard. Saw her shortly after she claimed to have been assaulted, yet she was not wearing make up and showed no signs of bruises or injury. He said as they were saying goodbye even kissed on the cheek on the side of the alleged injury and she didn't react at all as if she was in pain.

He also walked through on the night of the alleged drunken throwdown where Depp supposedly trashed the apartment. He saw glass on the floor and wine on the wall. He said one of her friends poked his head out of their door and said everything was fine, seemed surprised to see someone in the hallway.
Not a Bot
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Heard was seen in public at the time she filed for divorce wearing a veil and an apparent brown mark on her face. This guy is testifying he saw her and she didn't have a bruise and was shocked she filed for divorce.
DTP02
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Valtrex11 said:

Captain Positivity said:

Valtrex11 said:

Not worth getting Married in the West as man you gain nothing have everything to lose
This is a problem outside of marriage, too. No man is safe against this sort of allegation. If a woman gets mad at you for something or sees dollar signs all she has to do is make a public allegation and you are done, whether true or not.
True but if you are married you are getting fleeced no matter might have a chance if you are not married.


Such a cynical view on marriage. Being married to a good woman is an incredible blessing.
LMCane
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Captain Positivity said:

riverrataggie said:

If he's found innocent and that she made all this up I hope he goes after her for a couple movie worth of damages.

He for sure was running at his prime and then poof.
He's suing for $50 million. He could have asked for more. A lot of this for him seems to be about clearing his name. A lot of bad things are going to come out, including his rampant drug abuse. To my knowledge no one in Hollywood other than Heard has made claims he is a violent person, whether on drugs or not, and most thought of him as a pretty decent guy.
he is definitely a leftist and discussed how John Wilkes Booth should come back and take out Trump

so he is far from a saint

but it will be fun to watch Hollywood have to accept that his ex-wife lied about "me too"
Not a Bot
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Defense grilling witness on his makeup knowledge, implying that she could've just had really good makeup on where he didn't notice it.
LMCane
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Captain Positivity said:

Valtrex11 said:

Not worth getting Married in the West as man you gain nothing have everything to lose
This is a problem outside of marriage, too. No man is safe against this sort of allegation. If a woman gets mad at you for something or sees dollar signs all she has to do is make a public allegation and you are done, whether true or not.
this is why every meeting I had as an exec at Booz Allen -

my door was always open and never closed.
Omperlodge
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She may be the first 10/10 on the hot crazy matrix.
RikkiTikkaTagem
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

She may be the first 10/10 on the hot crazy matrix.


We might have to add in the Heard Asymptote. An imaginary line where you think hotness will overtake crazy and it theoretically approaches but never crosses
schwack schwack
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This guy is a really old friend of Depp's from Florida. Met in like 1980. Worked for him at the Viper Club, then Depp became a "patron" and put him up in the penthouse floor of the building where Depp lived.

Hilarious - can't imagine this guy ever met a stranger. He was Amber's sister's "spirit animal" - LOL
 
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