File5 said:
You must have stepped off early on the oblique BQ: 800 m^2 is 8611 ft^2
Yeah you're right... I was dumb and used cube instead of square. I'd like to think it's 21,000 sf though
***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]
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Yeah you're right... I was dumb and used cube instead of square. I'd like to think it's 21,000 sf though
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-ukrainian-air-defense-is-active-in-the-southQuote:
Ukrainian air defense is active in the south of Odesa region to repel new drone attack against Reni and Izmail
Russia must not care about the chance of drones going over the border to Romania.
MouthBQ98 said:
The cost is not the cost of the drones shot down. It is the cost avoidance of what those drones might damage or destroy that needs to be considered.
Long term the initial cost bs the cost of munitions does need to be considered since you can build thousands of drones for the price of one anti drone system. Plus you need systems that will be easier for infantry to use on their own.
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The first documented loss of the Russian 9A317M of the Buk-M3 air defence complex.
— Special Kherson Cat ππΊπ¦ (@bayraktar_1love) September 8, 2023
(47.2161245, 35.9973753)https://t.co/t8orOfIh2J pic.twitter.com/hcTOg1csOj
I'm glad to see them lose any variant of the missile type they used to shoot down MH17!
Uke observation and attack drones as well as close air support is forcing them to push more and more of these things too close to the front. Desperation is going to cost them more "elite" equipment.
Ukraine finding ways to reach out and touch Russia. "But they also speak to how Ukraine is trying to disrupt Russia away from the front lines with a mix of long-range strikes and special operators willing to go deep in enemy territory. And in both cases, home-grown, or at least home-repurposed, weapons are playing an outsize role."
RAIDS
RAIDS
I got more of a chuckle from the statement by a country that has launched countless missiles against civilians acting so concerned about the health of civilians and combatants.lb sand said:
I get a chuckle out of this quote:
"no health concerns from the depleted uranium armor-piercing rounds. "
Except getting hit by one!
Ukrainian forces with a captured Russian T-90M in the Robotyne area, Zaporizhia Oblast. pic.twitter.com/4WRfm4au96
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) September 8, 2023
Another
I believe they said it was the 3rd.
Destruction of Russian 2S4 Tyulpan 240 mm self-propelled heavy mortar. https://t.co/ZGOvbMBv49 pic.twitter.com/pbAc9Q3Wnz
— Special Kherson Cat ππΊπ¦ (@bayraktar_1love) September 8, 2023
2/ Maul told @TheEconomist that #Ukraine's recent breach of the βfirstβ of three Russian defensive layers in southern Ukraine gives Ukrainian forces a βrealistic possibilityβ to break through the remaining series of defensive positions by the end of 2023. https://t.co/10opb9xzgd
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 8, 2023
4/ Former Ukrainian Aidar Battalion Commander Yevhen Dykyi stated on Sept. 4 that battles are already ongoing at these Russian defensive positions but that Ukrainian forces have not yet broken through them.
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 8, 2023
6/ Dykyi stated that Russiaβs βthirdβ defensive layer in southern Ukraine is primarily comprised of command posts, communication points, and warehouses and mainly acts as a support line for the Russian defensive positions further north.
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 8, 2023
#BREAKING: US likely to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for the first time: Officials- ABC News
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) September 8, 2023
"They are coming," one U.S. official told ABC News https://t.co/jkseLlnmsD
When I hear claims that the counter-offensive becomes impossible or very difficult after the summer ends, it's essential to remind: 2022 Kherson counter-offensive started on August 29th and concluded in November, resulting in the liberation of Kherson and the entire right bank.
— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) September 8, 2023
2/ Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces intensified offensive operations on the Novodonetske-Novomayorske line (12km to 18km SW of Velyka Novosilka), and one milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces captured positions on the northwestern outskirts of Novomayorske.
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 9, 2023
The UK adapted its ASRAAM air-to-air missiles to launch from a Supacat truck and donated it to Ukraine. Read on for how that experiment is going and for background on the bespoke British weapon designed to out-range other short-range missiles. 1/2 https://t.co/zsAYVUFCXy
— Sebastien Roblin (@sebastienroblin) September 8, 2023
2/ The current localized RU offensive effort on this sector of the front has achieved marginal gains and likely aims to draw UKR forces away from more critical sectors of the front and Ukrainian counteroffensive operations instead of capturing tactically significant territory.
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 9, 2023
russia is moving everything they can to try and just hold ground.. but this is going to just bring more troops into the range of ukraine artillery. pic.twitter.com/KKmV99QSAn
— david D. (@secretsqrl123) September 8, 2023
What I wouldn't give for the Ukes to capture a T-14β¦
Russians fire upon their own retreating troops in Robityne- on purpose.
sclaff said:
Russians fire upon their own retreating troops in Robityne- on purpose.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn would not be surprised same with not accepting their own pows back without trade.
Been off grid a week. Appreciate all the updates and satisfied to see Ukes continuing to push orcs out.
Last 3 days on reddit looks like orcs lost tons of assets including 4-5 BUk ADA units.
GarryowenAg said:
What I wouldn't give for the Ukes to capture a T-14β¦
They're all back in Russia. They never really did anything.
A story that goes back to WW1 and followed up in WW2.sclaff said:
Russians fire upon their own retreating troops in Robityne- on purpose.
lurker76 said:A story that goes back to WW1 and followed up in WW2.sclaff said:
Russians fire upon their own retreating troops in Robityne- on purpose.
β¦and continues to this day. Sad that this is still happening in 2022, 2023, 202?????β¦
Rossticus said:russia is moving everything they can to try and just hold ground.. but this is going to just bring more troops into the range of ukraine artillery. pic.twitter.com/KKmV99QSAn
— david D. (@secretsqrl123) September 8, 2023
The table is almost set to launch a second prong somewhere much further south. They've pulled A LOT of reserves to one small area. Fix them in place and hit them hard elsewhere.
SouthTex99 said:
This concentration of Russians looks like a beautiful artillery and bombing range. Rain it down.
I could only imagine a huge barrage of USN missiles from a fleet.
The Ukrainian tactics: The Ukrainians take an important objective and then "consolidate." This means that they dig in and prepare for a reflexive Russian counterattack. Being covered by precision fires and cluster munitions, these new positions are very difficult to retake and⦠pic.twitter.com/jwaD9Owv60
— Randy Mott (@randymot4) September 9, 2023
The difference being the Germans were organized and experienced. ππ
— Randy Mott (@randymot4) September 9, 2023
Quote:
The Ukrainian tactics: The Ukrainians take an important objective and then "consolidate." This means that they dig in and prepare for a reflexive Russian counterattack. Being covered by precision fires and cluster munitions, these new positions are very difficult to retake and the Russians' weaknesses in organizing on the fly and coordinating attacks come to bear.
This also enables the Ukrainians to inflict a high casualty ratios on the Russians even thought they are on the offense. The strategy of depleting the Russians reduces Ukrainians casualties, but also weakens the Russians for each of the next offensive punches. Russians running out of troops and equipment is more important than their loss of real estate, since they cannot effectively replace those losses.
#RussiaLosingBadly
Its been said before, but the "Russia cannot effectively replace losses" line is yet to be proven correct.
Russia is very huge, and even if Putin drops dead and his replacement settles the war, it may only be a few years until the Russian military is rebuilt, possibly stronger than before - we just don't know the future.
Russia is very huge, and even if Putin drops dead and his replacement settles the war, it may only be a few years until the Russian military is rebuilt, possibly stronger than before - we just don't know the future.
True that it is sad, but has the psyche of the Russians changed that much in the last 500 years or more? I'm not a Russian historian, nor a real student of history, but from the Tzars to Lenin to Stalin et al to Putin, how many of the leaders of Russia cared about their citizens other than a means to support their lifestyle and power?Gilligan said:lurker76 said:A story that goes back to WW1 and followed up in WW2.sclaff said:
Russians fire upon their own retreating troops in Robityne- on purpose.
β¦and continues to this day. Sad that this is still happening in 2022, 2023, 202?????β¦
Demographics rules the future and theirs is horrific.Rongagin71 said:
Its been said before, but the "Russia cannot effectively replace losses" line is yet to be proven correct.
Russia is very huge, and even if Putin drops dead and his replacement settles the war, it may only be a few years until the Russian military is rebuilt, possibly stronger than before - we just don't know the future.
Ukraine will be in a worse position since the demographics are similar and they're much smaller but they will be armed to the teeth.
Rongagin71 said:
Its been said before, but the "Russia cannot effectively replace losses" line is yet to be proven correct.
Russia is very huge, and even if Putin drops dead and his replacement settles the war, it may only be a few years until the Russian military is rebuilt, possibly stronger than before - we just don't know the future.
I disagree. Russia is having a crisis of quality troops, equipment, and if they draft more people they will struggle more economically. Being isolated the way they are makes it much harder for them to fully mobilize society the way Ukraine has. The wave of bodies strategy is less effective with modern technology due to weapon precision and surveillance.
........and Ukraine will still have all of rich Europe at its back, securing its strategic rear and resupplying it. In contrast, the Kremlin's only "friends" are a few poor pariah states and China which sees Russia as a junior ally of convenience to be shed when of no further use. Putin's war is a disaster for both sides.PJYoung said:Demographics rules the future and theirs is horrific.Rongagin71 said:
Its been said before, but the "Russia cannot effectively replace losses" line is yet to be proven correct.
Russia is very huge, and even if Putin drops dead and his replacement settles the war, it may only be a few years until the Russian military is rebuilt, possibly stronger than before - we just don't know the future.
Ukraine will be in a worse position since the demographics are similar and they're much smaller but they will be armed to the teeth.
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