***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]
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https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-ukrainian-air-defense-shot-down-25-of-33-shahedQuote:
Ukrainian air defense shot down 25 of 33 Shahed drones launched by Russia overnight
A fire broke out after a powerful explosion at Russia's Southern Military District HQ in Rostov. The very same building that was seized by the Wagner a couple months agos pic.twitter.com/nvP16549Hm
— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) September 7, 2023
The headquarters of Russia’s Southern Military District in Rostov — the nerve center of the Russian war against Ukraine and a compound briefly seized by Wagner in June — rocked by powerful explosions. pic.twitter.com/HCQJy45B5u
— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) September 7, 2023
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-drone-was-shot-down-in-gorodische-district-ofQuote:
Drone was shot down in Gorodische district of Volgograd region
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-russian-fsb-exposed-a-group-involved-in-smugglingQuote:
Russian FSB exposed a group involved in smuggling parts for military planes and helicopters to Ukraine
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-ukrainian-border-guards-raised-flag-in-stroivkaQuote:
Ukrainian border guards raised flag in Stroivka and Topoli villages of Kharkiv region, villages on the border with Belgorod region were in the grey zone
I feal sorry for whoever they decided was taking the blame for them letting it happen.Waffledynamics said:https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-russian-fsb-exposed-a-group-involved-in-smugglingQuote:
Russian FSB exposed a group involved in smuggling parts for military planes and helicopters to Ukraine
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-russian-military-vehiclesuspected-radar-was-destroyedQuote:
Russian military vehicle(suspected radar) was destroyed in Zaliznyi Port
This is right by the entrance to the Tendra spit, along the coast in the occupied part of the Kherson oblast.
This seems pretty significant and under the radar-Waffledynamics said:https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/7-september-ukrainian-border-guards-raised-flag-in-stroivkaQuote:
Ukrainian border guards raised flag in Stroivka and Topoli villages of Kharkiv region, villages on the border with Belgorod region were in the grey zone
considering there have been zero Uke advances north of the Bakhmut region for literally months.
is this insinuating that the Ukes moved forward in Kharkiv Oblast to the north of the Russian attacks against Kupiansk?
Midday #Ukraine Map Update:
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) September 7, 2023
Ukraine has made further gains in western #Zaporizhia.
Geolocated footage posted Sept. 7 shows that #Ukrainian forces have advanced northwest of #Verbove & appear to be expanding their salient to the north of the settlement. https://t.co/hwgxTnU2Tr https://t.co/DtgzKSLiUl pic.twitter.com/qhscz8ItWn
Poland closely watching the fight in Ukraine and is determined to never fall under the Russian thumb again.
LESSONS LEARNED
LESSONS LEARNED
Not updated yet on LiveUAMap, but reports of heavy fighting in Novodonetske in the western Donetsk oblast. This is from a Russian Telegram source:
https://t.me/dontstopwar/11027
NASA Firms data showing fires:
https://t.me/dontstopwar/11027
NASA Firms data showing fires:
74OA said:
Poland closely watching the fight in Ukraine and is determined to never fall under the Russian thumb again.
LESSONS LEARNED
I had a whole novel typed out in response to that recent "what we gain" discussion last week. TA ate it though and I was too butthurt to retype.
But this ^^^
We are learning the hard lessons of ever evolving warfare and not with American blood for once. And warfare has evolved again and we are not exactly at the forefront of everything these days. It's unquantifiable right now but I am beyond positive future American lives have already been saved as we adapt to the new realities of warfare.
About 50-55 miles from Mariupol centerWaffledynamics said:
Not updated yet on LiveUAMap, but reports of heavy fighting in Novodonetske in the western Donetsk oblast. This is from a Russian Telegram source:
https://t.me/dontstopwar/11027
NASA Firms data showing fires:
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Russian sources report a UAV attack on an industrial facility in the city of Bryansk. One of the largest microelectronics enterprises in Russia, “Kremniy”, was reportedly attacked. pic.twitter.com/qiri6sjTQe
— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) September 7, 2023
74OA said:
Poland closely watching the fight in Ukraine and is determined to never fall under the Russian thumb again.
LESSONS LEARNED
Unpossible. We've heard many times that Poland will end up asked with Russia because they have so much in common.
Again.Waffledynamics said:Russian sources report a UAV attack on an industrial facility in the city of Bryansk. One of the largest microelectronics enterprises in Russia, “Kremniy”, was reportedly attacked. pic.twitter.com/qiri6sjTQe
— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) September 7, 2023
2nd time.
Looks like a drone flew through a window.
BOOOM💥🔥
— Cloooud |🇺🇦 (@GloOouD) September 7, 2023
Today, near Robotyne, fighters of the 65th Mechanised Brigade sent a turret from a Russian tank into flight, targeting it with an FPV drone. pic.twitter.com/gzOkCawmCt
really hope the LiveUA map gets updated with this as true informationDCPD158 said:About 50-55 miles from Mariupol centerWaffledynamics said:
Not updated yet on LiveUAMap, but reports of heavy fighting in Novodonetske in the western Donetsk oblast. This is from a Russian Telegram source:
https://t.me/dontstopwar/11027
NASA Firms data showing fires:
if so would be a great advance by the Ukes...
it's unbelievable that "the second strongest army in the world"PJYoung said:BOOOM💥🔥
— Cloooud |🇺🇦 (@GloOouD) September 7, 2023
Today, near Robotyne, fighters of the 65th Mechanised Brigade sent a turret from a Russian tank into flight, targeting it with an FPV drone. pic.twitter.com/gzOkCawmCt
has zero effective defense against loitering drones.
Let's be honest. No one really does at the moment. Their Lancet drones are lethal.
Iran supplied EFPs in Iraq and Afghanistan injured thousands and killed hundreds if not thousands of US soldiers. A lot were armoured vehicles and tanks.
For the short term the best solution appears to be electric countermeasures or getting lucky by shooting one down. Like IEDs and EFPs, drones work well and they are inexpensive. Plus for the most part they keep the users out of harms way.
For the short term the best solution appears to be electric countermeasures or getting lucky by shooting one down. Like IEDs and EFPs, drones work well and they are inexpensive. Plus for the most part they keep the users out of harms way.
The US Army's newly fielded M-SHORAD system is designed to combat drones with Stinger missiles and a 30mm autocannon firing proximity rounds. Close to fielding is DE M-SHORAD which is a laser optimized for UAVs and other targets. A High Power Microwave system to defeat drone swarms is in testing for both the Army and USAF. The Ukraine experience has really accelerated US drone defense efforts.......AgLA06 said:
Let's be honest. No one really does at the moment. Their Lancet drones are lethal.
M-SHORAD
DE M-SHORAD
HPM
Oh, I know all the power are working on them. Last I ready, no one had the numbers needed to defend themselves if needed.
Biggest issue is fielding multi-million dollar systems to shoot down $20000 Iran drones
The M-SHORAD also defends against aircraft and helos, and DE M-SHORAD's laser also defends against missiles, rockets and artillery rounds, not just UAVs. These are full spectrum air defense systems and the cost per UAV kill from proximity rounds, laser and HPM is very low.
And Stinger missiles are $400,000 a pop. Not economic to take on a drone. Not feasible against a swarm.P.U.T.U said:
Biggest issue is fielding multi-million dollar systems to shoot down $20000 Iran drones
Those are full air defense systems, not exclusively UAV defense systems. Stingers are primarily for aircraft and helos and only a high-flying, high-end UAV would earn a Stinger. The rest of the UAVs get hit with cannon proximity rounds, laser or HPM, all of which are very cheap per UAV kill.AgLA06 said:And Stinger missiles are $400,000 a pop. Not economic to take on a drone. Not feasible against a swarm.P.U.T.U said:
Biggest issue is fielding multi-million dollar systems to shoot down $20000 Iran drones
🔥 The fire area in Moscow is 800 sq.m. https://t.co/5zbpWg2BxH pic.twitter.com/4gJYbMMCWd
— MAKS 23 👀🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) September 7, 2023
That's a big fire.
For those of us who don't speak metric, that's 21,000 8600 sf
"In a rare on-the-record statement, a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) official says Ukraine's "breakthrough on that second defensive belt" near Robotyne in Zaporizhzhia Oblast "is actually pretty considerable."
Today's SITREP.
Today's SITREP.
I get a chuckle out of this quote:
"no health concerns from the depleted uranium armor-piercing rounds. "
Except getting hit by one!
"no health concerns from the depleted uranium armor-piercing rounds. "
Except getting hit by one!
You must have stepped off early on the oblique BQ: 800 m^2 is 8611 ft^2
The cost is not the cost of the drones shot down. It is the cost avoidance of what those drones might damage or destroy that needs to be considered.
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