***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Rossticus
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Putin wants to negotiate with Biden instead of Zelensky. Is there anybody on the planet that is surprised by this?

I hope that this administration has the sense to insist that the invaders and invaded have equal seats at the table and we're just there to make sure no one pulls any shenanigans
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This. The Russians, and communists, only want negotiations when things are going poorly. The fact they want to negotiate signals that they're desperate and Ukraine and the West should press the attack. This is Korea all over again. Now that they're being beaten neck and suffering high casualties, they want to dangle the peace carrot in bad faith to consolidate and regroup.
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Rossticus said:

Patrick Fox
Finally these are still very general statements from both officials. These comments may be purely for domestic consumption & international posturing. They may also be a trial balloon to gauge the Western response in order to help inform Russian actions going forward.
100% targeted at the West. Russia is absolutely hoping an 'olive branch' combined with a difficult European winter will ultimately weaken Ukrainian weapon deliveries.
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Hmmmmmm….

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**** peace talks. GTFO ***holes.
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And that 36% support to continue is with a state-run media hiding failures and body counts while pumping up fake successes.
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ConstructionAg01 said:

And that 36% support to continue is with a state-run media hiding failures and body counts while pumping up fake successes.
And considering the FSB will most likely be knocking on their door if they find out.

Probably not even close to that high.
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AgLA06 said:

ConstructionAg01 said:

And that 36% support to continue is with a state-run media hiding failures and body counts while pumping up fake successes.
And considering the FSB will most likely be knocking on their door if they find out.

Probably not even close to that high.
Pretty astounding to see the negative number that high when the orcs have made it a crime to speak badly about the government or to not support the special military operation.
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Ukraine ships record tonnage of grain despite Russia's suspension. SHIPS

Considering grain ships coming out of Ukrainian ports can be quickly inside next-door Romanian, Bulgarian and Turkish territorial waters (NATO members) all the way to the Med, it's an interesting situation. If the agreement breaks down fully, that route is a much more viable option since Ukraine regained Snake Island. Although still risky, grain ships can now hug the Ukrainian shore under a coastal SAM and ASM umbrella on the way to NATO waters.

To avoid exposure in international Black Sea waters, Ukraine has been madly upgrading rail and Danube River barge links to the Romanian port of Constanta so it can send grain directly there for onward shipping--anyone have an update on that?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

**** peace talks. GTFO ***holes.


I would love to see Solovyov's reaction if #occupybelgorod began to trend on Twitter.
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Ulysses90 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

**** peace talks. GTFO ***holes.


I would love to see Solovyov's reaction if #occupybelgorod began to trend on Twitter.
To set the stage for the Biden/Putin peace negotiations, I would love to see us leak an agenda for a "secret" summit where the Foreign ministers of Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland would be invited to discuss spheres of influence to help stabilize Kaliningrad, Belgorod, and St. Petersburg after "future rebellions" result in breakaway provinces. China, South Korea, Japan, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, and the governor of Alaska would also be invited to discuss stabilizing the eastern and central Asian provinces.
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Peace talks should be as follows.

You have 72 hours to get your troops out of Ukraine. All personnel or vehicles flying a white flag will not be fired upon. Any left in the country or moving without a white flag will be destroyed after 72 hours.
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74OA said:

Ukraine ships record tonnage of grain despite Russia's suspension. SHIPS

Considering grain ships coming out of Ukrainian ports can be quickly inside next-door Romanian, Bulgarian and Turkish territorial waters (NATO members) all the way to the Med, it's an interesting situation. If the agreement breaks down fully, that route is a much more viable option since Ukraine regained Snake Island. Although still risky, grain ships can now hug the Ukrainian shore under a coastal SAM and ASM umbrella on the way to NATO waters.

To avoid exposure in international Black Sea waters, Ukraine has been madly upgrading rail and Danube River barge links to the Romanian port of Constanta so it can send grain directly there for onward shipping--anyone have an update on that?
If the current shipments become risky, I would personally love to see the a fleet of civilian vessels flagged under NATO countries assembled to go pick up the grain, and then make the announcement that, "humanitarian efforts are being made to prevent global starvation due to a regional conflict, and that any attacks on the vessels would be viewed as military aggression against NATO." I know it likely wouldn't happen due to escalation risks, but the massive FAFO would be excellent and we'd see exactly how dumb Russia is or isn't.
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Zelensky and the Ukrainian government need a front seat at the table for peace talks. Part of me says ending the conflict today would be a great thing. But I'm not sure that's in the best interest of anyone at the moment besides Putin. He needs to be killed or imprisoned.
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*giant eye roll*

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Riiiiiiiiiiiight…

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What is "energy equipment"? Is this generators to run buildings for heat or is this stuff to fix the sub-stations or even to push power through sub-stations while they are being fixed.
- If you are going to do something stupid, be smart about it.
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Rossticus said:


I see some long range missiles in the Ukraine arsenal in the very near future...

Crimean ports are going to be a seriously bad place and Russia's Black Sea fleet will be afraid to make port anywhere
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Rossticus
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Oh, not good for Russia. Read the roll-up to learn about yet another way Putin has managed to slam his dick in the door. Lol.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1587168930220605440.html

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DeBoss said:

What is "energy equipment"? Is this generators to run buildings for heat or is this stuff to fix the sub-stations or even to push power through sub-stations while they are being fixed.


From what I've been able to tell, primarily lots of generators.
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Even the Russians being forced to admit to the possibility that this was legit. Begrudgingly.

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lb3 said:

Ulysses90 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

**** peace talks. GTFO ***holes.


I would love to see Solovyov's reaction if #occupybelgorod began to trend on Twitter.
To set the stage for the Biden/Putin peace negotiations, I would love to see us leak an agenda for a "secret" summit where the Foreign ministers of Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland would be invited to discuss spheres of influence to help stabilize Kaliningrad, Belgorod, and St. Petersburg after "future rebellions" result in breakaway provinces. China, South Korea, Japan, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, and the governor of Alaska would also be invited to discuss stabilizing the eastern and central Asian provinces.
Are we going to call it the "naughty document 2.0"
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Giant eyeroll indeed. Putin's response to covid was to develop their own vaccine. Will we ever know how many Russians died? From covid or their "vaccine"??

Doubtful.
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Today's SITREP.
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DCPD158 said:

Rossticus said:


I see some long range missiles in the Ukraine arsenal in the very near future...

Crimean ports are going to be a seriously bad place and Russia's Black Sea fleet will be afraid to make port anywhere


I'd suspect (& hope) they're already pre-positioned there …
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Little-noticed, late-added part on LiveUAMap:

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Putin claims mobilisation in Russia has been concluded
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/31-october-putin-claims-mobilisation-in-russia-has-been-concluded

."I'll talk to lawyers - Putin did not think about whether his decree is needed to complete the mobilization

. But it is completed. Point set"
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Quote:

President Volodymyr Zelenskyi and Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala signed a joint declaration on the Euro-Atlantic perspective of Ukraine
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/31-october-president-volodymyr-zelenskyi-and-prime-minister

Another step West.

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Another SITREP.
The Dirty Sock
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Rossticus said:

Riiiiiiiiiiiight…




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