Is the US shouldering the bulk. Yet again?
benchmark said:Good read. Thanks for sharing. What a novel idea ... just cobble together an accurate weapon by slapping on a guidance system to an existing munition. Wondering if we haven't previously provided these based on some of the video's we've seen. M982's cost about the same as a Javelin and we've sent them over 6,000 ... so not sure if cost is the issue.Ulysses90 said:
I would think it more likely that they are sending the M1156 Precision Guidance Kit for conventional 155mm projectiles than Excalibur. There's a big cost difference (not that cost has been an obstacle for US aid thus far).
Here's another link - M1156 Precision Guidance Kit. Accuracy comparison ....Quote:
A conventional unguided M549A1 155 mm artillery projectile has a circular error probability (CEP) of 267 m (876 ft) at its maximum range, meaning that half of the rounds can be expected to land within 267 meters of their intended target. This has made unguided artillery dangerous to use in close combat for fear of friendly fire and collateral damage. The M982 Excalibur was fielded as a guided shell that effectively hit within 6 m (20 ft) of a target, but the Army developed the XM1156 as a cheaper alternative. The PGK fuse can be screwed onto existing M549A1 and M795 projectiles, be fired from M109A6 Paladin and M777A2 Howitzer artillery systems, and hits within 50 m (160 ft) of the target at any range.
I'm going to do a translation of the main points of an interview done about tanks by a Ukrainian military officer. link to the interview (in Ukrainian) : https://t.co/tKHCWtsCmA
— childsacrificer42 (@childsacrifice1) July 10, 2022
74OA said:
Interesting interview with a Ukrainian officer.I'm going to do a translation of the main points of an interview done about tanks by a Ukrainian military officer. link to the interview (in Ukrainian) : https://t.co/tKHCWtsCmA
— childsacrificer42 (@childsacrifice1) July 10, 2022
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-zelensky-ordered-to-liberate-the-south-of-ukraineQuote:
Zelensky ordered to liberate the south of Ukraine, - Minister of Defense Reznikov
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-vice-pm-of-ukraine-vereshuk-is-urging-populationQuote:
Vice PM of Ukraine Vereshuk is urging population in temporary occupied territories in southern regions of Ukraine to evacuate
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-reports-of-several-explosions-in-luhanskQuote:
Reports of several explosions in Luhansk
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-missile-launch-over-luhanskQuote:
Missile launch over Luhansk
Луганськ зараз pic.twitter.com/SqMNLHmOjp
— Ватний Дрезден 🇺🇦 (@dohuyaUmnyi) July 10, 2022
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-ukrainian-missile-units-conducted-2-strikes-againstQuote:
Ukrainian missile units conducted 2 strikes against command posts, gatherings of equipment and field ammunition warehouses near Chornobaivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-explosions-reported-at-rosguard-base-in-khersonQuote:
Explosions reported at Rosguard base in Kherson
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-big-fire-at-2nd-tavrichesk-in-khersonQuote:
Big fire at 2nd Tavrichesk in Kherson
Херсон
— hochu domoy v UA (@hochu_dodomu) July 10, 2022
На Втором Таврике очень сильно разгорелось поле, весь район в дыму, дышать невозможно
Русня не торопится тушить pic.twitter.com/KgX5PKTN9Q
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-fire-at-cars-parts-market-at-hirnycha-street-in-donetskQuote:
Fire at cars parts market at Hirnycha street in Donetsk as result of shelling
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-fire-burning-at-oil-depot-in-kirovsky-district-inQuote:
Fire burning at oil depot in Kirovsky district in Donetsk
#Донецк, Кировский р-н, 07/07/22: нефтебаза будет гореть до тех пор, пока там будет чему гореть. Такие дела https://t.co/5qwFO6455u https://t.co/OgmtCQ29a7 https://t.co/slNakLjWBg pic.twitter.com/z4V1gttKNX
— Necro Mancer (@666_mancer) July 7, 2022
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-smoke-visible-at-putilovka-after-shelling-Quote:
Smoke visible at Putilovka after shelling
Update: AEW&C A-50 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces (reg.number RF-94268) is flying south of Minsk.
— Belarusian Hajun project (@MotolkoHelp) July 10, 2022
A fighter is flying (circling) together with AEW&C A-50 aircraft south of Minsk.
🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Ukraine is massing a million-strong fighting force equipped with western weapons to recover its southern territory from Russia, the nation’s defence minister has revealed to The Times https://t.co/it1vJpDzpq
— The Times and The Sunday Times (@thetimes) July 10, 2022
Indeed. Thanks for sharing. From the tread - a few interesting nuggets on tank repairs. Apparently, repair specialists and equip are precious. I read somewhere else about a Russian repair facility in Dzhankoy about 120 miles behind the front. Sounds like a WW2 Schweinfurt ball bearing factory to me so add these locations to the ATACMS target list.74OA said:
Interesting interview with a Ukrainian officer.
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6) Both sides bring back tanks 200-300km behind the lines for repair, the transporting takes 5-6 hours. No one wants to risk the specialists capable of carrying out the repairs, or the specialized machinery needed for in-the-field repairs.
14) There are 3 tank repair plants left in Russia, and their ability to repair tanks or pull tanks out of storage is limited (not more than 100-200 units per month)
20) The transporting of our tanks into Europe is a significant help, a single factory is able to repair 20-30 written off tanks per month. They have a large supply of specialists. In total we get back 2-3 tank companies every month.
* Context needed for the next one. A few months ago, Ukrainian TV ran a story about a tank repair plant in Kiev and showed it on camera. Shortly after, the plant was struck by Kalibr missiles and destroyed
21) This cost us many excellent specialists and those responsible should be prosecuted.
Whether or not Russia succeeds, this could have interesting domestic political implications for the Russian government. They would need to beat decentralization into their troops and then beat it right out of them as soon as they came back to peace.Quote:
Another thing regarding the effectiveness of Ukrainian rocket strikes. Many write about how to minimise losses from them. Aside from strengthening air defence it is suggested to disperse ammunition storages, avoid bringing armoured vehicles to one base, avoid lining up helicopters in one line, and decentralise everything in general. But you see what the problem is you can decentralise, but this will be a completely different army, not the Russian-Soviet army. Decentralisation is contrary to the structure of not just the army itself but the whole state structure in general. Indeed, along with distribution of ammunitions to different stockpiles, along with moving vehicles to various forests, also the powers must be transferred down to these forests and stockpiles. But these powers for hundreds of years have been carefully focused in one location. And that is how the authority preserved itself. But here decentralisation. This is worse than military losses.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-july-reports-of-explosions-in-nova-kakhovkaQuote:
Reports of explosions in Nova Kakhovka
There's a major highway across the dam and it's about 35 miles upstream from Kherson. It's one of only 2 river crossings over the Dnipro until Zaporizhzhia 150 miles upstream from the dam. SOL if they can't take one of those 2.Waffledynamics said:
There appears to be a dam there.
So Ukraine would not want to take out the dam, but control it. Good to understand.benchmark said:There's a major highway across the dam and it's about 35 miles upstream from Kherson. It's one of only 2 river crossings over the Dnipro until Zaporizhzhia 150 miles upstream from the dam. SOL if they can't take one of those 2.Waffledynamics said:
There appears to be a dam there.
Mainly discussion on taking out Crimean bridge and if USA is/will provide munitions with extended range into the hundreds of kms.MouthBQ98 said:
Anything on the previous page worth noting? My browser crashes every time I try to check that page. Did someone link something ridiculous?
I was having similar problemsMouthBQ98 said:
Anything on the previous page worth noting? My browser crashes every time I try to check that page. Did someone link something ridiculous?
Desktop browser works but the not mobile browser. Flag this post or another as "Spam" and maybe staff will notice.Jetpilot86 said:I was having similar problemsMouthBQ98 said:
Anything on the previous page worth noting? My browser crashes every time I try to check that page. Did someone link something ridiculous?
🇺🇦🚀💥Warehouses of #Russian invaders in Shakhtersk after meeting with #HIMARS.#Ukraine #UkraineWar #Ukrainian#UkraineRussianWar #UkraineRussiaWar pic.twitter.com/kwrJnEvf4y
— 🇺🇦Ukraine News Live🇺🇦 (@UkraineNewsLive) July 11, 2022
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Head of occupation administration of Velykyi Burluk dead as result of car explosion
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Russia Su-27, Su-30 and Su-35 jets launched 7 Kh-31 missiles at Odesa region
benchmark said:
Speculating .... ammo dumps are important now but sometime soon HIMARS may start targeting air defense .... radar, launchers, etc. Forward air surveillance will become critical if they want to advance far enough to put the southern coastline and the Crimean border within HIMARS range.