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#Kyiv area, a #Ukrainian EOD tech defuses a MON-90 directional anti-personnel mine that was hidden under what appears to be a shopping bag. - MoD.#RussiaUkraineWar #Ukraine #UkraineRussianWar pic.twitter.com/oP1lCgBcmj

— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) April 16, 2022

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Hoping this ordinance is successfully used by Ukraines against Russian combatants.

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I know that he knows exactly what he is doing and is very familiar with this ordnance. Still.... balls of steel, balls of steel.

ETA: Well, I'm late but oh well.

Two photos of the Moskva before she sank:

This is the Russian Flagship #Moskva before she sank. It's impossible to fully assess the situation aboard based on one picture but marine salvage masters must make assumptions based on little information. As a ship captain and ship fire author here's what appears to be likely🧵 pic.twitter.com/pUjqo4j3Bs

— John Konrad V (@johnkonrad) April 17, 2022

The first question any salvage expert will ask is how close is she to sinking. The red line on this photo shows the approximate location of the new waterline. As you can see by comparing the photos she has lost a significant amount of buoyancy and is listing to port. pic.twitter.com/5TRjJvVJFq

— John Konrad V (@johnkonrad) April 17, 2022

Another photo of the Moskva pic.twitter.com/251AOogyKB

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 17, 2022

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#war Photo of the damaged cruiser Moskva in the Black Sea in 15 April 2022.⚠️
First impressions of this shocking photo. Life-saving equipment (rescue rafts) on board are missing, which means they were dropped into the water during the rescue operation./1 pic.twitter.com/WREeqmSvtA

— Capt(N) (@Capt_Navy) April 17, 2022

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Just based on the photo, it seems like there was enough time for a significant portion of the survivors to evacuate? The seas don't look really rough either.

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The crew thing is a bit of a mystery. IIRC the strike happened during early morning hours (1-2am ish). Did the explosions/fires wipe out most of the crew? Did some of the survivors abandon ship via lifeboats in the storm and are unaccounted for?

The picture looks like it was taken in broad daylight, several hours later.

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I slapped this together. It shows the location of the AK-630 CIWS and the approximate spot where the missiles hit. This system can fire 5,000 rounds per minute and has a max range of about 4km. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's clear the CIWS failed spectacularly to either track or effectively engage the missiles.

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The Ukes claimed they distracted the air defense system with a Bayraktar drone during the missile strike.

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Captain Positivity said:

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I slapped this together. It shows the location of the AK-630 CIWS and the approximate spot where the missiles hit. This system can fire 5,000 rounds per minute and has a max range of about 4km. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's clear the CIWS failed spectacularly to either track or effectively engage the missiles.

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The Ukes claimed they distracted the air defense system with a Bayraktar drone during the missile strike.

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Or one or more of the following: russian junk, ivan smoking, ivan sleeping, ivan on vodka, ivan skipped PMCS, forte10 overhead.

Captain Positivity said:

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I slapped this together. It shows the location of the AK-630 CIWS and the approximate spot where the missiles hit. This system can fire 5,000 rounds per minute and has a max range of about 4km. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's clear the CIWS failed spectacularly to either track or effectively engage the missiles.

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Lots of dents on the side of that ship if you zoom in. Is that common?

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Captain Positivity said:

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I slapped this together. It shows the location of the AK-630 CIWS and the approximate spot where the missiles hit. This system can fire 5,000 rounds per minute and has a max range of about 4km. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's clear the CIWS failed spectacularly to either track or effectively engage the missiles.

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Lots of dents on the side of that ship if you zoom in. Is that common?

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Lots and lots of vodka.

Before we go out, I'm going to leave you with this positive message.

The next generation of #Ukrainian patriots.

See you all soon, friends.

Glory to #Ukraine ✊🏻🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/6X997GJWp2

— Canadian Ukrainian Volunteer 🇺🇦🇨🇦✊🏻 (@CanadianUkrain1) April 17, 2022

Ukrainian children singing the Legion of Ukrainian Sich riflemans song. A Ukrainian unit within the Austro-Hungarian Army during the First World War. After World War I, with Austria's disintegration, the unit became the regular military unit of the West Ukrainian People's Republic

A bit bittersweet watching this, to be honest.

The drone was more about distracting operators, not somehow impairing the CIWS ability to see and potentially shoot down the missiles.

There was information floating around that they couldn't track and shoot aircraft and missiles at the same time, and that's not quite true. This CIWS system has its own radar and electro-optical targeting system. It functions independently from the anti-air missile batteries.

It's possible they may have even gotten some shots off and struck the missiles, but when you have an object flying directly at you at a high velocity, even if you hit it with a bullet large chunks of it are still flying in your direction. Goal is to hit the missile as far away from your ship as possible.

Ships don't have a good track record defending against missiles. We supposedly had a destroyer shoot down an inbound missile from Yemen recently but most other instances where the missile functioned properly, the ship got hit. Falklands, USS Stark, Israeli frigate hit by hezbollah, etc

Captain Positivity said:

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The drone was more about distracting operators, not somehow impairing the CIWS ability to see and potentially shoot down the missiles.

There was information floating around that they couldn't track and shoot aircraft and missiles at the same time, and that's not quite true. This CIWS system has its own radar and electro-optical targeting system. It functions independently from the anti-air missile batteries.

It's possible they may have even gotten some shots off and struck the missiles, but when you have an object flying directly at you at a high velocity, even if you hit it with a bullet large chunks of it are still flying in your direction. Goal is to hit the missile as far away from your ship as possible.

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In order to detect and target an incoming missile, they have to be using their radar to look for it. It is always a game of hide and seek when using active sensors, since they can be detected far beyond the distance where they will generate a useable return signal. If they were trying not to advertise the position of the ship to the Ukrainians, they may not have had the CIWS radars operating while they were tracking the drone.

Ukrainian soldier filming themselves using the bm-21 grad. pic.twitter.com/Gp1k2e1E2T

— ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews) April 17, 2022

Notice how the soldiers are a bit on the older side, leave immediately after firing is complete.

Here is the full briefing to the US Military given by Peter Ziehan back in February, just before this all started. It's an hour worth of watching. Bits and pieces have been posted earlier.



TLDR: Russia and China have MAJOR long term demographic and economic issues. Russia is trying to re-take all of the possible invasion routes that opened up when the SU fell. Taking Ukraine will give them # 6 & 7 of the 9 with Poland on deck. While Russia is self-sufficient enough to survive, China is VERY dependent upon imports for both Food and Energy.

Unconfirmed footage of Moskva. According to another account posting the same vid, the translation of the yelling in the background is "You ******* idiot! What the **** are you doing!" Someone obviously wasn't supposed to be filming.

To whoever wondering about size of the Tugboat. This is not your regular tugboat, this is a rescue ship "Shakhter" project 712 is 69 meters long. Considering the angle of the video camera the "Moscow" cruiser's total length of 186 meters is just not visible here. pic.twitter.com/ZO3JvImZVV

— Egor Yakushkin (@egoryakushkin) April 18, 2022

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Ships don't have a good track record defending against missiles. We supposedly had a destroyer shoot down an inbound missile from Yemen recently but most other instances where the missile functioned properly, the ship got hit. Falklands, USS Stark, Israeli frigate hit by hezbollah, etc

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I can picture Dean Wayne Hughes looking down from above at the Moskva saying, "You should have paid attention to the first salvo P-hit, Comrade Kuprin, because you can't sink a shaore battery."



http://www.doolanshire.net/2018/01/26/salvo-warfare/

Another colonel gone.

The Ukrainian military is claiming that Colonel Ivan Grishin, the commander of Russia's 49th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade (1st Tank Army), was killed. A Russian VK page from Smolensk is saying that he was killed on April 16.https://t.co/xIBVCiLleshttps://t.co/cAQZmmA8J6 pic.twitter.com/7emFzEB5Pt

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) April 18, 2022

"I don't understand. Explain, please. The cost of one "caliber" is $6.5 million. They launch it a thousand kilometers away to fix a tire fitting in Lviv? What's the logic here? Are they completely morons?"

Я не понимаю. Объясните пожалуйста. Стоимость одного "калибра" 6,5 млн $. Они его запускают за тысячу километров чтобы расфигачить шиномонтаж во Львове? Какая тут логика? Они совсем дебилы? pic.twitter.com/mKDCOGpcFx

— Ivan Zhdanov (@ioannZH) April 18, 2022

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"I don't understand. Explain, please. The cost of one "caliber" is $6.5 million. They launch it a thousand kilometers away to fix a tire fitting in Lviv? What's the logic here? Are they completely morons?"

Я не понимаю. Объясните пожалуйста. Стоимость одного "калибра" 6,5 млн $. Они его запускают за тысячу километров чтобы расфигачить шиномонтаж во Львове? Какая тут логика? Они совсем дебилы? pic.twitter.com/mKDCOGpcFx

— Ivan Zhdanov (@ioannZH) April 18, 2022

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Yes. Yes they are.

Great presentation thanks for posting.

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Warning: there isn't any gore, but video does show drone footage of probably dead or severely wounded Russian soldiers as well as a grenade being thrown on them.

Azov Regiment released video of their troops ambushing a Russian force (which seems to be transporting in civilian vehicles) in Mariupol city.#Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/Jei84dvYv6

— BlueSauron👁️ (@Blue_Sauron) April 18, 2022

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These guys were dead before they ever got into the fight. Too scared and untrained. First evidence is how they followed each other exactly driving in the road. I am sure the rest of the video was edited to cut out the gore.

UKR on the other hand moving with a purpose and 360 security. I suspect this is early in the fight in Mariupol or this squad is new to the fight there. Uniforms untarnished and their movement is so fluid, I doubt they have been besieged for over a month. Or its not Mariupol but one of the towns not far. Would have been nice to see what took out the last 2 vehicles if that was same squad or others off frame because it looks like antitank type weapon hit.

After three days of fighting, Russian fascist troops are now in the streets of Kreminna, Luhansk region, Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/6wAS5Lhhrz

— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) April 18, 2022

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Ships don't have a good track record defending against missiles. We supposedly had a destroyer shoot down an inbound missile from Yemen recently but most other instances where the missile functioned properly, the ship got hit. Falklands, USS Stark, Israeli frigate hit by hezbollah, etc

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To successfully engage incoming missiles, the CIWS actually has to be present and active. HMS Sheffield didn't have a CIWS to engage the exocets fired at it. Stark seemingly didn't turn hers on fast enough and engage early. The Hanit (Israeli frigate) also did not have her CIWS on because she did not suspect any kind of missile attack was possible.

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GAC06 said:

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Ships don't have a good track record defending against missiles. We supposedly had a destroyer shoot down an inbound missile from Yemen recently but most other instances where the missile functioned properly, the ship got hit. Falklands, USS Stark, Israeli frigate hit by hezbollah, etc

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To successfully engage incoming missiles, the CIWS actually has to be present and active. HMS Sheffield didn't have a CIWS to engage the exocets fired at it. Stark seemingly didn't turn hers on fast enough and engage early. The Hanit (Israeli frigate) also did not have her CIWS on because she did not dialect any kind of missile attack was possible.

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Also, the USS Stark attack was unexpected from an Iraqi fighter (we were not at war) so they were caught by surprise and slow to react. Additionally, the CIWS on the Stark was masked by it's superstructure v. angle of attack so the ship also had to maneuver to unmask it. There just wasn't enough time.

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GAC06 said:

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Ships don't have a good track record defending against missiles. We supposedly had a destroyer shoot down an inbound missile from Yemen recently but most other instances where the missile functioned properly, the ship got hit. Falklands, USS Stark, Israeli frigate hit by hezbollah, etc

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To successfully engage incoming missiles, the CIWS actually has to be present and active. HMS Sheffield didn't have a CIWS to engage the exocets fired at it. Stark seemingly didn't turn hers on fast enough and engage early. The Hanit (Israeli frigate) also did not have her CIWS on because she did not dialect any kind of missile attack was possible.

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Also, the USS Stark attack was unexpected from an Iraqi fighter (we were not at war) so they were caught by surprise and slow to react. Additionally, the CIWS on the Stark was masked by it's superstructure v. angle of attack so the ship also had to maneuver to unmask it. There just wasn't enough time.

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That's what is pretty cool about Israel's Iron Dome idea. The anti-missile system can be supplemented by UAV's with laserbeams attached to their heads.

You get a little more distance between the ship and the likely direction of attack, and if the UAV goes down, everyone is on super high alert.

Obviously, weather could create problems, but the concept is really interesting.