Ag In Ok said:
Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:
Yes I don't really get it, if Russia would have just advanced into the disputed territories. Stopped and said this is ours now. There would be tension and probably a casualty list you could count with your fingers, but I guarantee you there would be zero sanctions.
I'm my mind it's too late for them to get that deal again.
Assuming all of this is *true*
And now NATO is stronger, Japan is waking the hell up, Germany's testicles descended, Finland wants to party, Sweden is locked and ready to go, France admits failure, and the Ukrainian people. The Ukes. They put in a pinch, kneeled down, and guns up. The women stayed to fight. The president stayed with his people. Young men stepper forward to be counted in the fight. Warriors from around the world poured in to fight. Putin just watched the birth of a warrior nation. The next generation will be raised to hate Russia and Putin. If he invades again, the situation will be radically different so long as Ukraine develops economically and starts to tackle their corruption crisis. The latter is the keystone in my opinion.
Looking at the bigger picture here, in what you posted, this invasion has been a massive, strategic failure for Russia. He has caused the opposite of many things he wanted to happen. In his blind desire to reincorporate Ukraine, he has reinvigorated NATO and strengthened it.
He has also reinforced the death of globalization that COVID started which many will be fine with including me. This war is a societal globe changing event that will be noted in the history books as such.
Probably too soon...but there are potentially many silver linings in this event.