***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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DallasAg 94 said:

Blinkin giving the "green light," IMO is a big "so what."

Poland's issues isn't giving up the planes, they were requesting backfill F-16s to keep themselves from being vulnerable.

From what I understand, Poland is transitioning from the MIGs to US planes and this just expedites their replacement.


Arent they on a multi billion order for f35's?
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Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
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Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Looks like a massive mistake in retrospect!
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From chef to IT expert, Ukrainian men take crash course in fighting


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Before Russia launched its assault on Ukraine, Andriy Senkiv was a pacifist who blogged about sport and had never held a gun in his life.

Eleven days later, the 27-year-old Ukrainian was learning how to handle an assault rifle with 30 other men in the western city of Lviv. Among them were salesmen, IT experts, a chef and a footballer.

"It's very scary that, in the 21st century, skills that should have died out a long time ago are again in high demand," said Senkiv.

Asked if he was ready to fight and kill Russian soldiers, Senkiv said: "I won't be ready, but I'll do it."

Yaroslav Durda, 37, an IT project manager who received some military training at university, was still hoping that diplomacy or a NATO no-fly zone might halt the Russian advance.However, if the war continued, Durda said he would leave his wife and 8-year-old daughter and head to the front.

"It's our land and we have to protect it," he said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/chef-it-expert-ukrainian-men-take-crash-course-fighting-2022-03-06/
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Keegan99 said:

Another good thread from General Ryan


This definitely doesn't give me a feeling of optimism. Seems like the Russians need to be crushed in the South, and quickly.
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aezmvp said:

Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Looks like a massive mistake in retrospect!
Was it? I would figure that such incrementalism in the face of a weak West worked out in his favor. It gave him a staging area for the more successful Southern theater of the war. In fact, had he not invaded Ukraine at large this time, I still question if the international community would be reacting the same way as if he just went for Donetsk and Lugansk.
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Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Cruz says that advancing much beyond Crimea would/could have threatened the natural gas pipelines that Russia uses to move NG to Eastern Europe and Germany. This was the impetus behind the construction of NordStream2.
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IslanderAg04 said:

DallasAg 94 said:

Blinkin giving the "green light," IMO is a big "so what."

Poland's issues isn't giving up the planes, they were requesting backfill F-16s to keep themselves from being vulnerable.

From what I understand, Poland is transitioning from the MIGs to US planes and this just expedites their replacement.


Arent they on a multi billion order for f35's?
IIRC they have some on order, but if they get rid of their Mig-29's now they're going to need something now in the interim is what DallasAg is getting at I think. Poland currently has F-16's in their inventory, but F-35's would take awhile to deliver.
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Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Uh they didn't. At the same time they sent unmarked Russian troops into Donetsk and Luhansk and declared independent republics setting off an ongoing Ukraine-Russia war that's been going on for 8 years until it recently escalated into a Ukraine wide conflict.
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Hey, They knocked out a Russian drone with a jar of pickles!
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If russia attacks polish positions the no fly zone is on
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jwj said:

If russia attacks polish positions the no fly zone is on

If they attack Polish positions we need to do more than that.
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JJxvi said:

Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Uh they didn't. At the same time they sent unmarked Russian troops into Donetsk and Luhansk and declared independent republics setting off an ongoing Ukraine-Russia war that's been going on for 8 years until it recently escalated into a Ukraine wide conflict.


Thank you

The only move i see right now is for the uke eastern force to retreat and fight to engage the uppercut coming from the coast. They need to keep Odessa.
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I feel like this is connected and important considering Bennett was just with Putin
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Irish 2.0 said:

I feel like this is connected and important considering Bennett was just with Putin



Warning to Assad to keep his butchers in his own sandbox?
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So much for any speculation about Israel brokering a Russian - Ukranian peace plan...
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Israel's way of sending a message. No longer neutral.
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Mule said:

Israel's way of sending a message. No longer neutral.
Just like the Mossad. Send a high value target out there for cover until they get their covert crap into place and ready to go. Stalling tactic. Earned them two days.

We are far into black ops now.
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That's a lot of destructive power.
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Ag In Ok said:

JJxvi said:

Ag In Ok said:

Does anyone recall why Putin stopped with the Crimea back in '14?
Uh they didn't. At the same time they sent unmarked Russian troops into Donetsk and Luhansk and declared independent republics setting off an ongoing Ukraine-Russia war that's been going on for 8 years until it recently escalated into a Ukraine wide conflict.


Thank you

The only move i see right now is for the uke eastern force to retreat and fight to engage the uppercut coming from the coast. They need to keep Odessa.
It depends how effective they are. If they're punching above their weight, let them stay and fight their Alamo.

If they're overwhelmed and otherwise ineffective, withdraw some, or even most, but let some volunteers dissolve back into the populace to gather intelligence, serve as a spotters, saboteurs, and insurgency commanders.
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SIAP but are the Javelins strictly anti-tank or can they be used against other heavy artillery pieces?
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agent-maroon said:

SIAP but are the Javelins strictly anti-tank or can they be used against other heavy artillery pieces?
Any vehicle. Better against larger targets.
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Charpie said:


Could this have been a Javelin instead of a Stinger or other manpad? I understand that under limited circumstances the Javelin can be used against aircraft.
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JB!98 said:

Charpie said:


Could this have been a Javelin instead of a Stinger or other manpad? I understand that under limited circumstances the Javelin can be used against aircraft.


Javelin is a lot slower and is fairly smokeless.

Also the corkscrew flight path is a telltale characteristic fur many MANPADs due to the way the IR seeker works
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agent-maroon said:

SIAP but are the Javelins strictly anti-tank or can they be used against other heavy artillery pieces?


" Javelin provides the U.S. Army, U.S. Marine Corps and numerous international customers with a medium-range, "fire-and-forget" missile for use against a wide array of targets including armored vehicles, bunkers and caves. The system's Command Launch Unit, or sight, performs surveillance, allowing a gunner to see targets."

https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/land-warfare/precision-weapons/javelin-missile
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Refugees still flooding into Lviv, on their way west to Poland. Volunteers and supplies also coming in, going east into the battlefields. Hard not to choke up. Godspeed, everyone.
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March 5- In Ukraine's West, Lviv Makes Itself a Vital Rear Base - Spared direct attacks so far, the city has become a transit point for thousands of fleeing refugees and for men and supplies headed to the front lines.


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This genteel city of cobbled streets and Austro-Hungarian architecture a UNESCO world heritage site has already become home for foreign embassies and government departments relocated from the capital, Kyiv, and is the main route in for medicines, equipment and personnel. According to Western intelligence analysts, weapons are also being brought through this region across the land border with Poland.

Lviv's train station is clogged with thousands of people waiting for the four trains a day that still ply the route to Poland, and cars packed with families tail back for almost 10 miles at the main land crossing at Medyka.

Officials were bracing for tens of thousands more refugees expected to arrive Friday from a mass exodus from the capital, Kyiv, amid what refugee officials say is already the largest movement of refugees within Europe since World War II.

"We will have a humanitarian crisis in Lviv tonight," warned Viktoria Khrystenko, a lawmaker on the City Council who is helping direct the effort to support refugees. "We had 30,000 people arrive last night," she said. "Tonight we will have 100,000." There are not enough places to sleep, food to distribute and shelter for the crowds, she said.

Yet as people flee, others are returning and regrouping. Volunteers were loading boxes of supplies onto a train heading back east to Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, which has suffered heavy Russian bombardment for days. Groups of men in woolen hats and winter jackets were boarding the train, too. They had left jobs in Europe to come back and enlist in the fight, from Prague, Berlin and Warsaw, one said.

"We are at war and someone has to defend the country," said Artem Sypii, 41, a welder who had traveled back from Poland and was heading home to eastern Ukraine.

https://archive.ph/3Zi1M#selection-909.0-913.160


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Apologies for going off topic, just some background on the Ukrainian flag everyone now recognizes instantly.


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The blue color of the flag represents the sky, streams, and mountains of Ukraine. The yellow color symbolizes Ukraine's golden wheat fields and the richness of the earth.
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