JUST IN: Russia has sent more than 50 percent of the forces arrayed on the border into Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official.
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) February 26, 2022
Russian military is 30 kilometers north of Kyiv, the official said.
JUST IN: Russia has sent more than 50 percent of the forces arrayed on the border into Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official.
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) February 26, 2022
Russian military is 30 kilometers north of Kyiv, the official said.
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This is one of the strangest things I've seen in all this mess yet. Just pull your personal car up to the main battle tank on the interstate and have a casual conversation with the invaders.
Seems like the invaders would pull out their rifles and commandeer the car to get back to their unit, or the guy in the car would unload on the soldiers standing by the tank.
That conversation was more like - hey bud, I see your vehicle is broken down, need a lift? Nah, we've already got a friend headed this way to pick is up. Ok, by the way, we're going to kick your a**.
3rd and 2 said:
Is it me or are the Ukrainian Generals geniuses or are the guys hitting the Russian logistics lines getting real-time sat data from NATO of where all the Russian assets are?
Their reputation for winter ruggedness is way overblown, the Fins kicked their ass in the 30s largely due to lack of winter gear. They took that lesson to their fight with German. Same rules apply here, sounds like strategic command and logistics probably thought they would be partying in Kyiv by now.htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
JobSecurity said:JUST IN: Russia has sent more than 50 percent of the forces arrayed on the border into Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official.
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) February 26, 2022
Russian military is 30 kilometers north of Kyiv, the official said.
BTHOB-98 said:htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
This is a long way from over. Everything I'm reading is that this is only 1/3 of the Russian troops that were at the border. This is just the first offensive. They're just softening them up. There will be another wave.
El Hombre Mas Guapo said:
***Fox reporting Turkey has NOT closed the black sea to Russian Military Ships***
BTHOB-98 said:htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
This is a long way from over. Everything I'm reading is that this is only 1/3 of the Russian troops that were at the border. This is just the first offensive. They're just softening them up. There will be another wave.
htxag09 said:BTHOB-98 said:htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
This is a long way from over. Everything I'm reading is that this is only 1/3 of the Russian troops that were at the border. This is just the first offensive. They're just softening them up. There will be another wave.
Oh for sure. Not implying it's over or even that the majority of troops are doing this. Just amazing to me to hear of guys giving up because they're hungry and cold after a couple days.
hunter2012 said:Their reputation for winter ruggedness is way overblown, the Fins kicked their ass in the 30s largely due to lack of winter gear. They took that lesson to their fight with German. Same rules apply here, sounds like strategic command and logistics probably thought they would be partying in Kyiv by now.htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
UA ambassador to RU ambassador: “Your words have less value than the hole in a pretzel.” pic.twitter.com/cqjuv47rHw
— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) February 25, 2022
"most of your land"?TheCougarHunter said:hunter2012 said:Their reputation for winter ruggedness is way overblown, the Fins kicked their ass in the 30s largely due to lack of winter gear. They took that lesson to their fight with German. Same rules apply here, sounds like strategic command and logistics probably thought they would be partying in Kyiv by now.htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
The Finns also had extensive multi-layered fortifications and fought the Russians off for over 4 months. It doesn't seem like the Ukes had a very comprehensive defense set up considering the Russians are in the capital already after 2 days. Granted they are fighting hard but losing most of your land and having your capital besieged within 48 hours isn't exactly "winning."
TheCougarHunter said:hunter2012 said:Their reputation for winter ruggedness is way overblown, the Fins kicked their ass in the 30s largely due to lack of winter gear. They took that lesson to their fight with German. Same rules apply here, sounds like strategic command and logistics probably thought they would be partying in Kyiv by now.htxag09 said:
I enjoy reading WWII books and one of the biggest takeaways for me is always the resilience of those guys to be without food and shivering cold for so long.
Seems the US isn't the only country who's people have gotten weaker the last 50 years. Those soldiers made it through entire winters. These Russians aren't lasting 3 days.
The Finns also had extensive multi-layered fortifications and fought the Russians off for over 4 months. It doesn't seem like the Ukes had a very comprehensive defense set up considering the Russians are in the capital already after 2 days. Granted they are fighting hard but losing most of your land and having your capital besieged within 48 hours isn't exactly "winning."
jabberwalkie09 said:Looks like that cage armour worked really well
— Dom 🇬🇧💞🇺🇸 (@_smartcasual) February 26, 2022
Out-****ing-standing Ukrainians!
JobSecurity said:Western countries came to an agreement to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT payment system and began preparations for the implementation of this sanction - @DmytroKuleba 🙏🚀💥💥💥
— Iuliia Mendel (@IuliiaMendel) February 26, 2022
PWestAg18 said:JobSecurity said:Western countries came to an agreement to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT payment system and began preparations for the implementation of this sanction - @DmytroKuleba 🙏🚀💥💥💥
— Iuliia Mendel (@IuliiaMendel) February 26, 2022
Has anyone seen more confirmation of this? I feel like this is REALLY big news but haven't seen anything besides this one tweet.
I think is premature and comes from Cyprus and Hungrary saying they are now good with it. We will see if Germany backs out now that those two countries are not providing cover.PWestAg18 said:JobSecurity said:Western countries came to an agreement to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT payment system and began preparations for the implementation of this sanction - @DmytroKuleba 🙏🚀💥💥💥
— Iuliia Mendel (@IuliiaMendel) February 26, 2022
Has anyone seen more confirmation of this? I feel like this is REALLY big news but haven't seen anything besides this one tweet.
BTHOB-98 said:
So rather than reply to you guys individually I just thought I'd put it in the next post.
Logistical it's probably very very difficult to keep the supply chain going when you're moving at such a rapid pace. I would suspect that you would see refueling vehicles at some point and everybody gets up and running and then continues to press forward. With little to no resistance they have affectively I'll kick their coverage. They're way ahead of everybody else in the supply line. Looks to me like they are just waiting for the convoy to catch back up.
Former MI6 head said exactly this yesterday. This was Xi's year to cement his permanency in China and he apparently wanted no external distractions or black eyes to potentially disrupt that.richardag said:China is watching and seeing much of the world coalesce against this blatant illegal action. I am not an intel expert but would guess Putin is crapping in China's pool at this point.YouBet said:The longer this has gone on the more support you've seen from the rest of the planet about supporting Ukraine. The longer this goes on the more NATO is going to actually do something. People love an underdog and the fact that Ukraine is showing fight has people rallying to their cause.rgag12 said:
I don't get the notion that Russia is working against some clock. They've reached and almost encircled the enemy capital in less than 2 days. The president of Ukraine is wanting to die defending city, or so he portrays.
If the ultimate goal is to overthrow the government and install a pro-Russian puppet, what's the difference if it takes 3 days versus 7 days. The prestige?
Russia knows this. If they don't end this quickly, they stand a chance of more and more direct support for Ukraine.
Eliminatus said:jabberwalkie09 said:Looks like that cage armour worked really well
— Dom 🇬🇧💞🇺🇸 (@_smartcasual) February 26, 2022
Out-****ing-standing Ukrainians!
That's a T72.
One thing just clicked in my head.
I haven't seen any ERA on any Russian vehicles yet in Ukraine. Credence that these are NOT first line units?
(Explosive Reactive Armor, brick shape layerings used to defeat shape charges. Russia absolutely has it and I have no idea why these tanks didn't have it.)
Germany and France backed out last night.Robk said:I think is premature and comes from Cyprus and Hungrary saying they are now good with it. We will see if Germany backs out now that those two countries are not providing cover.PWestAg18 said:JobSecurity said:Western countries came to an agreement to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT payment system and began preparations for the implementation of this sanction - @DmytroKuleba 🙏🚀💥💥💥
— Iuliia Mendel (@IuliiaMendel) February 26, 2022
Has anyone seen more confirmation of this? I feel like this is REALLY big news but haven't seen anything besides this one tweet.
He was KGB not military and who knows how he surrounded himself with his current military leaders.Kenneth_2003 said:
I'm no adept student of the matter, but I never figured Putin too be an inept tactician.
ABATTBQ11 said:BTHOB-98 said:
So rather than reply to you guys individually I just thought I'd put it in the next post.
Logistical it's probably very very difficult to keep the supply chain going when you're moving at such a rapid pace. I would suspect that you would see refueling vehicles at some point and everybody gets up and running and then continues to press forward. With little to no resistance they have affectively I'll kick their coverage. They're way ahead of everybody else in the supply line. Looks to me like they are just waiting for the convoy to catch back up.
Problem is that any vehicle out of gas is exposed and liable to get blown up. The fuel trucks also have to get to them, but that may be very hard when the enemy is packing guided antitank missiles and can ambush convoys. Russia had to gain control of the roads and everything around them to to really get those units moving again. It looks like they may have lost the initiative and stalled out.