****Kyle Rittenhouse Trial-Day 10: Closing Statements and Jury Deliberation****

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TAMUallen
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In reply to FriscoKid • 11:12a, 11/15/21
FriscoKid said:
Lib media going into coverup now. Might not be smart to do that against a group of HP lawyers


This case is horrendous to even be at trial. What a glorious dumpster fire to see big tech going against lawyers and people who are watching the doing of the left.
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11:12a, 11/15/21
One of the good things about this trial is that more conservative-leaning people now understand how bad prosecutors, confusing instructions, and other issues with the process may affect the ability of defendants to get fair trials. What's happening here is not all that uncommon. Prosecutors out for convictions, not really seeking truth or justice. All these lesser includeds, the gun charge that wasn't justified by evidence, trying to skirt the judge's prior rulings, last-minute "found" evidence that the defense didn't have time to properly investigate, etc.

Imagine if Kyle had a public defender with limited resources and a huge caseload.
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In reply to TxAgPreacher • 11:12a, 11/15/21
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why take down the stream? isn't it fair use?
Yes, this is BS
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11:14a, 11/15/21
Perhaps it is a state by state thing, but when I have served on jury duty, deliberation instructions were given just before deliberations. I don't recall receiving them before closing arguments.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:15a, 11/15/21
Captain Positivity said:
One of the good things about this trial is that more conservative-leaning people now understand how bad prosecutors, confusing instructions, and other issues with the process may affect the ability of defendants to get fair trials. What's happening here is not all that uncommon. Prosecutors out for convictions, not really seeking truth or justice. All these lesser includeds, the gun charge that wasn't justified by evidence, trying to skirt the judge's prior rulings, last-minute "found" evidence that the defense didn't have time to properly investigate, etc.

Imagine if Kyle had a public defender with limited resources and a huge caseload.

This is something I have stressed on social media to more open minded proponents of justice system reform. They can find allies here in the conservatives camps by simply latching on to how unjust this prosecution has been against Kyle and point out how easy it is for the state to screw over unpopular people.
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In reply to BuddysBud • 11:15a, 11/15/21
BuddysBud said:
Perhaps it is a state by state thing, but when I have served on jury duty, deliberation instructions were given just before deliberations. I don't recall receiving them before closing arguments.
It is. Wisconsin is quirky on the timing but that is their procedure.
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11:15a, 11/15/21
Live feed with Branca comments below

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/live-rittenhouse-trial-day-10-closing-arguments/#more-370359
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In reply to crowman2010 • 11:16a, 11/15/21
crowman2010 said:
Hawg, once again, you are the real rock star of forum 16!
Yeah...but without the monkey, right?



Joking!!!!!!!!!
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11:16a, 11/15/21
I like getting the instructions before closing, because it lets you know what to pay attention to during closing and what the state has to prove.
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In reply to BuddysBud • 11:16a, 11/15/21
BuddysBud said:
Perhaps it is a state by state thing, but when I have served on jury duty, deliberation instructions were given just before deliberations. I don't recall receiving them before closing arguments.


Apparently this is how things work in Wisconsin.
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11:16a, 11/15/21
Closing arguments beginning!

Prosecutor, defense, prosecutor
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:16a, 11/15/21
aggiehawg said:
BuddysBud said:
Perhaps it is a state by state thing, but when I have served on jury duty, deliberation instructions were given just before deliberations. I don't recall receiving them before closing arguments.
It is. Wisconsin is quirky on the timing but that is their procedure.


Thanks, Hawg
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11:16a, 11/15/21


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11:17a, 11/15/21
They want discussion from lib media only. Those lawyers were painting a different picture.
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11:17a, 11/15/21
Around noon they will break for lunch
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In reply to The Collective • 11:17a, 11/15/21
I Have Spoken said:
BuddysBud said:
Perhaps it is a state by state thing, but when I have served on jury duty, deliberation instructions were given just before deliberations. I don't recall receiving them before closing arguments.


Apparently this is how things work in Wisconsin.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:17a, 11/15/21
Captain Positivity said:
Prosecutors out for convictions, not really seeking truth or justice. All these lesser includeds, the gun charge that wasn't justified by evidence, trying to skirt the judge's prior rulings, last-minute "found" evidence that the defense didn't have time to properly investigate, etc.

This X1000. I had no idea, until a few years back, how bad this was. Had someone I know that got caught up in Brazos County and I suddenly realized this was just a big revenue generating machine for the county. DAs just want wins, not justice.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:18a, 11/15/21
Very eye-opening for me. I think many conservatives have grown up accepting that the legal system works, because it is part of America - something many of us were taught to take pride in from an early age.
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11:18a, 11/15/21
Majority of Jury wants to start deliberating today. Sounds good for Kyle.
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11:18a, 11/15/21
DAMN, how do they suspend Rekieta right before closing arguments start!
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11:18a, 11/15/21
I really don't want to wait for deliberation until tomorrow.
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11:19a, 11/15/21
Determining if jury will stop at 5 or go late

8 say stay late

Judge says he will make the decision
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In reply to TAMUallen • 11:19a, 11/15/21
TAMUallen said:
Closing arguments beginning!

Prosecutor, defense, prosecutor
Don't understand. The prosecution is allowed to rebutt and the defense isn't??? Don't see the equity in that!!!
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11:19a, 11/15/21
Seems that the jury will not be sequestered during deliberations?
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11:20a, 11/15/21
Judge already interrupting Binger and his lies
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11:20a, 11/15/21
saw deekhead talking had to tune out. he turns my stomach
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 11:20a, 11/15/21
Teddy Perkins said:
DAMN, how do they suspend Rekieta right before closing arguments start!


If the content provider just took action by notifying youtube, that is probably why it just happened now. Youtube is ridiculously risk-averse.
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In reply to whatthehey78 • 11:20a, 11/15/21
whatthehey78 said:
TAMUallen said:
Closing arguments beginning!

Prosecutor, defense, prosecutor
Don't understand. The prosecution is allowed to rebutt and the defense isn't??? Don't see the equity in that!!!
Party bearing the burden of proof addresses the jury last.
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11:21a, 11/15/21
Rekieta back
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In reply to The Collective • 11:21a, 11/15/21
I Have Spoken said:
Teddy Perkins said:
DAMN, how do they suspend Rekieta right before closing arguments start!


If the content provider just took action by notifying youtube, that is probably why it just happened now. Youtube is ridiculously risk-averse.


Any content provider claiming this is acting in bad faith.
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11:21a, 11/15/21
"AR15" twice already
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In reply to whatthehey78 • 11:21a, 11/15/21
whatthehey78 said:
TAMUallen said:
Closing arguments beginning!

Prosecutor, defense, prosecutor
Don't understand. The prosecution is allowed to rebutt and the defense isn't??? Don't see the equity in that!!!


They have the burden of proof. Defense will remind them of this at the end of their closing. Will probably say something along the lines of "the hardest thing I have to do is sit down right now because I won't be able to talk to you again. The reason we do this, the reason the prosecution has the last word, is because all of the burden of proof is on them."
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11:21a, 11/15/21
16 jurors currently, so it's only 50/50 on staying late. And the latest he'd let them go was 5:00. So about 30 minutes of deliberation.

I wouldn't read too much into it IMHO.
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11:21a, 11/15/21
Binger berates him for not being an EMT and yet under cross he berated him for not stopping and rendering aid to the three people he shot.

F*** Binger
“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 11:22a, 11/15/21
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
Majority of Jury wants to start deliberating today. Sounds good for Kyle.
That is promising.
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