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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I don't think this woke thing ends until everyone is in Mutually Assured Destruction mode and realizes businesses just need to stay out of politics period. While I do dislike Trump doing this on a purist level, I still support his tweet on a pragmatic level. The way I see it, you WOKE people started it. Let's end it now, together.

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They got absolutely pummeled on Twitter. Disabled replies to their pinned statement, so their recent tweets were a circus.

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It's one of those times it's better to just ignore the errors completely.

Seems to be happening more and more, a company angers the woke mob or the maga mob. When this happens, it looks like it's better not to release a statement and ignore it, let the fire burn out.

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I am shocked at the amount of far left wing libs that rise to high power positions in business and the military, it seems so counter intuitive. Business is about making products/services and making profits for owners/shareholders, the military is about enforcing order and when the time comes breaking things and killing people, neither of these should be about "feels". I am in my 40's but when I was in HS those positions were almost exclusively held by conservative type people. When my wife became a VP at a Fortune 100ish company after being a director of marketing for another company of similar size, I was amazed by all the left wingers she worked with, nowadays I just accept it and move on.

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it's almost like the trope that the right is all about logic, while the left is all about "feels" is not correct.

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Maybe the "trope" that leftists like big government because they can keep barriers to entry for potential competition in place is more accurate in this context.

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I am shocked at the amount of far left wing libs that rise to high power positions in business and the military, it seems so counter intuitive. Business is about making products/services and making profits for owners/shareholders, the military is about enforcing order and when the time comes breaking things and killing people, neither of these should be about "feels". I am in my 40's but when I was in HS those positions were almost exclusively held by conservative type people. When my wife became a VP at a Fortune 100ish company after being a director of marketing for another company of similar size, I was amazed by all the left wingers she worked with, nowadays I just accept it and move on.

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it's almost like the trope that the right is all about logic, while the left is all about "feels" is not correct.

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Or for decades conservative employees kept their head down and didn't say anything while democrats screamed the loudest at any slight. So leaders have been conditioned to the idea that it is better for the workforce to give the tantrum throwers what they want and the logical adults will just take it. Well now the game has changed. Instead of having to bully 1 or 2 conservatives who feel disgruntled enough to speak out while the rest of the conservatives hide to keep their jobs, they now have to bully the entire twitter mob who can't be threatened by being fired.

Also HR is ran overwhelmingly by liberals. It is a bureaucratic machine that finds itself inside business. So a CEO/President likely doesn't have much control.

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

Not buying anymore Goodyear tires. Simple as that.

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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The liberals on here just aren't going to understand your statement. It's got something to do with the way they think.

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I'm sure all of those 64,000 jobs in Ohio are VERY appreciative of our president meddling in private business.

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They should start by firing the liberal diversity hire who wrote that Bullshi$ for goodyear.

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

Told you they wouldn't understand. They're not capable

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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Do you live under a rock? Us educated people have read the BLM goals and objectives. All of those objectives directly line up with the democratic platform. To say BLM isn't a political statement is like saying Pro-Life isn't a political statement supporting a specific candidate. The degree of willful ignorance or deception required is absurd.

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Where in the tweet does the talking about corporate policy start and the whining about banning hats stop?
No, the message is not consistent. There's always someone who has to come around behind him and say, "Well, what he meant to say was...." just like you are doing right now. No. I'm sorry. He's not attacking their corporate culture. The tweet that caused all the damage to Goodyear was *****ing about hats like a premenstrual teenage girl.

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I don't GAF about what Trump said in his tweet.

Do you believe that a corporate policy that says BLM is not political, and can be worn by employees, but Back the Blue is political, and can't be worn by employees, is OK? Do you think that this is a corporate policy worth criticism?

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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I would be outraged at Goodyear's behavior with or without Trump's tweet. Do you know differently on whether or not I would be outraged? Your opinion that Trump "set this whole thing in motion" is incorrect.

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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Yeah, BLM is just a "concept". So is MAGA. It's also funny that you are willing to admit that the political party that you love (I know you will deny this), is the antipode of the concept of "making America great again".

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Where in the tweet does the talking about corporate policy start and the whining about banning hats stop?
No, the message is not consistent. There's always someone who has to come around behind him and say, "Well, what he meant to say was...." just like you are doing right now. No. I'm sorry. He's not attacking their corporate culture. The tweet that caused all the damage to Goodyear was *****ing about hats like a premenstrual teenage girl.

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I don't GAF about what Trump said in his tweet.

Do you believe that a corporate policy that says BLM is not political, and can be worn by employees, but Back the Blue is political, and can't be worn by employees, is OK? Do you think that this is a corporate policy worth criticism?

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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I would be outraged at Goodyear's behavior with or without Trump's tweet. Do you know differently on whether or not I would be outraged? Your opinion that Trump "set this whole thing in motion" is incorrect.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.
And he did set the whole thing off. He could have let it go, but THEY WERE BOYCOTTING HATS!!!!!!

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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Yeah, BLM is just a "concept". So is MAGA. It's also funny that you are willing to admit that the political party that you love (I know you will deny this), is the antipode of the concept of "making America great again".

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america is great and hasn't ever stopped. sorry your country didn't need saving.

I think we would have known about it. I've heard a lot of the workers were upset over the remarks.

Too funny how many try to frame this as Trump not caring about Americans.

Some SJW HR idiots at Goodyear are the ones that determined Make America Great Again is racist while Black Lives Matter is not and, remember it can only be BLM nothing else from those that support it Absolutely NO All Lives Matter or Blue Lives Matter etc... You do as we say or we will attack you from reactionary Leftists promoting their personal agendas at their place of work. Absolutely and totally un-ethical by any basic business standards.

Who in their right mind, even a large portion of the 64k working in Ohio for Goodyear, can honestly say that it is a good thing to stifle everyone but a select few from having the right to exercise their freedom of expression ? Everyone is afforded that basic privledge or right even those on the right you bunch of stupid leftist AH's our Constitution provides it to all of us all deal with it !!!!!

Goodyear brought this on themselves, their employees should be disturbed that they work for a company that cares so little for them that they would allow some simpleton, or perhaps a entire department for that matter, within their corporate structure to summarily determine who has constitutional rights and who does not. Blame your spineless and/or leftist management folks. While your at it blame the leftist politics that have forced this kind of crap down your throats at your place of work. Blame leftist policies and leftist education programs for creating and then forcing upon us all, a bunch of Letist indoctrinated SJW's cloaked in the guise of HR professionals.

HR is nothing more than yet another political motivated job creation program propped up with worthless educational programs all created by leftist to advance more of their BS agendas on the citizenry of this country through their place of employment that is is what took place here. It needs to be completely cleaned up or simply abolished in every business they produce nothing of value !!!

And I saw Trump's tweet well after I read about the slide.

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I think we would have known about it. I've heard a lot of the workers were upset over the remarks.

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How many Goodyear workers from Kansas do you follow on Twitter? Sure, it might have picked up some steam, but it certainly helps when the guy with 80M Twitter followers puts it on blast.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.

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Yes you would. Because I saw the tweet from Goodyear on twitter before Trump tweeted, and would have put it on Texags if it wasn't already there.

But, maybe again you came to Texags just to complain about Trump's tweet, so you wouldn't have seen my hypothetical thread.

Time travel logic is so hard.

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So their statement about 'we didn't do that' was false.

Funny, that last statement about "let's make this a safe environment for everyone and let's just do what we do - make tires" would have been excellent after saying "no political messages including BLM, ALM, MAGA, etc". But no. They couldn't do that.

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Where in the tweet does the talking about corporate policy start and the whining about banning hats stop?
No, the message is not consistent. There's always someone who has to come around behind him and say, "Well, what he meant to say was...." just like you are doing right now. No. I'm sorry. He's not attacking their corporate culture. The tweet that caused all the damage to Goodyear was *****ing about hats like a premenstrual teenage girl.

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I don't GAF about what Trump said in his tweet.

Do you believe that a corporate policy that says BLM is not political, and can be worn by employees, but Back the Blue is political, and can't be worn by employees, is OK? Do you think that this is a corporate policy worth criticism?

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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I would be outraged at Goodyear's behavior with or without Trump's tweet. Do you know differently on whether or not I would be outraged? Your opinion that Trump "set this whole thing in motion" is incorrect.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.
And he did set the whole thing off. He could have let it go, but THEY WERE BOYCOTTING HATS!!!!!!

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For the record, he discussed all of this in his press conference yesterday and did not limit his comments to just the MAGA hats. He honed in on Blue Lives Matter quite a bit.

It was a funny Q&A though.

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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It's a Marxist organization at its core

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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Yeah, BLM is just a "concept". So is MAGA. It's also funny that you are willing to admit that the political party that you love (I know you will deny this), is the antipode of the concept of "making America great again".

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america is great and hasn't ever stopped. sorry your country didn't need saving.

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If America has always been great why do we need to tear down all of these statues, rename forts and change our history to the 1619 view?

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Goodyear is RESPONSIBLE for their idiotic policy NOT Trump!

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Exactly, why piss off half the country?

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Hopefully half of the country isn't so dumb as to think a policy prohibiting the wearing of clothing supporting a particular political candidate at their workplace is something to get pissy over. But you might be right.

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If you are going to ban political statements altogether then that's fine. But, by allowing some statements but not others is when you start to make people upset. I'd get mad if my work said BLM gear is good but MAGA gear isn't.

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it's pretty funny to me that the statement that "black lives matter" is seen as political as endorsing a specific political candidate.

also funny that people on here willingly admit that the politician they love is (in their minds anyway) the antipode of the concept that "black lives matter."

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Yeah, BLM is just a "concept". So is MAGA. It's also funny that you are willing to admit that the political party that you love (I know you will deny this), is the antipode of the concept of "making America great again".

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america is great and hasn't ever stopped. sorry your country didn't need saving.

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If America has always been great why do we need to tear down all of these statues, rename forts and change our history to the 1619 view?

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need to? we don't.

ahh this is the part where you say you don't support those liberals doing liberal things. By the way do you think we should define the Black Lives Matter movement by its stated organization goals and fundraising gifts or by a notional idea of what the phrase black lives matter means?

Hint one answer will clearly point that BLM is a political movement for the democrats, the other will not. Of course the latter is useless.

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So their statement about 'we didn't do that' was false.

Funny, that last statement about "let's make this a safe environment for everyone and let's just do what we do - make tires" would have been excellent after saying "no political messages including BLM, ALM, MAGA, etc". But no. They couldn't do that.

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Exactly..... What is happening is they're specifically allowing certain groups their constitutional rights while at work, while not allowing others the same right, that's an unfair employment practice, It certainly flies in the face of providing equal opportunity or equal employment treatment.

If you are going to make a rule it has to be fair to all employees, either you allow them to wear whatever or no one can wear this or that otherwise you are not providing an equal opportunity and/or equal employment atmosphere.

The DA's blatantly set up a corporate employ policy, an actual rule of employment based upon favoring one race over all others. That's exactly what an HR department is supposed to be trained to guard against and not allow yet, it's the HR department that's actually promoting such. You know why ? Because that's what HR was actually designed and trained to do. They're generally nothing more than a huge group of automoton Leftist's, indoctrinated by our Universities. Perfect little Marxist soldiers forced upon corporate America for the advancement of the Progressives Socialist agenda.

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Where in the tweet does the talking about corporate policy start and the whining about banning hats stop?
No, the message is not consistent. There's always someone who has to come around behind him and say, "Well, what he meant to say was...." just like you are doing right now. No. I'm sorry. He's not attacking their corporate culture. The tweet that caused all the damage to Goodyear was *****ing about hats like a premenstrual teenage girl.

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I don't GAF about what Trump said in his tweet.

Do you believe that a corporate policy that says BLM is not political, and can be worn by employees, but Back the Blue is political, and can't be worn by employees, is OK? Do you think that this is a corporate policy worth criticism?

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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I would be outraged at Goodyear's behavior with or without Trump's tweet. Do you know differently on whether or not I would be outraged? Your opinion that Trump "set this whole thing in motion" is incorrect.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.
And he did set the whole thing off. He could have let it go, but THEY WERE BOYCOTTING HATS!!!!!!

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Bruh, we were already talking about it before Trump's tweet. Trump didn't set it off.

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I am shocked at the amount of far left wing libs that rise to high power positions in business and the military, it seems so counter intuitive. Business is about making products/services and making profits for owners/shareholders, the military is about enforcing order and when the time comes breaking things and killing people, neither of these should be about "feels". I am in my 40's but when I was in HS those positions were almost exclusively held by conservative type people. When my wife became a VP at a Fortune 100ish company after being a director of marketing for another company of similar size, I was amazed by all the left wingers she worked with, nowadays I just accept it and move on.

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Spitballing here, but useless liberal arts degrees being followed up MBAs, and the leftist tilt of many business schools created a pipeline for these ideologies.
HR departments also fester with these ideas and have been given too much power. And virtue signalling has been largely a 1-way street.

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Where in the tweet does the talking about corporate policy start and the whining about banning hats stop?
No, the message is not consistent. There's always someone who has to come around behind him and say, "Well, what he meant to say was...." just like you are doing right now. No. I'm sorry. He's not attacking their corporate culture. The tweet that caused all the damage to Goodyear was *****ing about hats like a premenstrual teenage girl.

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I don't GAF about what Trump said in his tweet.

Do you believe that a corporate policy that says BLM is not political, and can be worn by employees, but Back the Blue is political, and can't be worn by employees, is OK? Do you think that this is a corporate policy worth criticism?

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I think corporations should publicly stay out of politics. I also think the president should stay out of corporate policy.

And you should GAF about the tweet. That's what set the whole thing in motion. I am 99.999% certain you would if Obama used a bully pulpit to call for a boycott of an American business, based on nothing other than feelings.

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I would be outraged at Goodyear's behavior with or without Trump's tweet. Do you know differently on whether or not I would be outraged? Your opinion that Trump "set this whole thing in motion" is incorrect.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.
And he did set the whole thing off. He could have let it go, but THEY WERE BOYCOTTING HATS!!!!!!

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Bruh, we were already talking about it before Trump's tweet. Trump didn't set it off.

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Exactly. It was on this board before Trump made a tweet about it and Goodyear was already getting killed in social media over it. How do you think it rose to the level of Trump finding out about it to begin with?

The blame for this is on Goodyear alone. Don't be political and hypocritical with your HR policies, and you won't have stuff like this happen and POTUS weigh in.

Damn, Trump is right once again.

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Would you know about it if not for Trump's tweet? I wouldn't.
And he did set the whole thing off. He could have let it go, but THEY WERE BOYCOTTING HATS!!!!!!

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Er...this topic was being discussed on this board before Trump's tweet.
So the answer is yes.

You've been savaged!!! LOL