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Since when was open carry allowed on campus?

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Open carry of any kind is not legal on campus.

I went to the TFF facebook page and asked them not to bring weapons. I suggest anyone else who feels the same way to do the same thing.

Remove statue on the 11th and put it back on the 13th, problem solved

SW AG80 said:

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This needs to stay in the Aggie family.

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Yeah, let's do that.

Even though it's highly likely that the anti-Sully nuts are bringing in outside agitators.

MaroonBloodedAg2010 said:

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fooz said:

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Since when was open carry allowed on campus?

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Open carry of any kind is not legal on campus.

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Is that true? I thought that only extends to inside the buildings, not outside?

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MaroonBloodedAg2010 said:

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fooz said:

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Since when was open carry allowed on campus?

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Open carry of any kind is not legal on campus.

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Is that true? I thought that only extends to inside the buildings, not outside?

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There's a few different laws that come in to play with carrying firearms. There's several laws dealing specifically with open carry.

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun; and
(2) is not:
(A) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view, unless the person is licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and the handgun is carried in a shoulder or belt holster; or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.

This one says if you don't have a license to carry, you cannot carry a handgun concealed or open without a License to Carry unless you are on your own property or in your vehicle. This is a Class A Misdemeanor.


Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place. It is an exception to the application of this subsection that the handgun was partially or wholly visible but was carried in a shoulder or belt holster by the license holder.
(a-1) Notwithstanding Subsection (a), a license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a partially or wholly visible handgun, regardless of whether the handgun is holstered, on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person:
(1) on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education; or
(2) on any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education.

This says that people with a License to Carry cannot open carry a handgun on any part of an institution of higher education, including streets, parking lots, garages, etc. This one is also a Class A Misdemeanor.


Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:
(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; or
(B) the person possesses or goes with a concealed handgun that the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and no other weapon to which this section applies, on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education, on any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of the institution;

Here is where long guns come in. It says no firearm (long gun) can be carried on any physical premises of an educational institution unless you have written authorization from the school. This is a little trickier because typically the definition of "premises" means a building, but it also says any grounds where a school sponsored activity is going on. If there is a recognized student group organizing or hosting the event, it becomes an event sponsored by the school, meaning this applies. This one is a 3rd Degree Felony.

Sip Campus Carry site with some helpful info:
https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/

CanyonAg77 said:

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Firearms aside, the last thing I want is some non-Aggies showing up to run their mouths and get identified as being representative of the Sully supporters.

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They are now saying they aren't coming, because the campus organizers asked for no open carry.

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I mean, he quite literally forced black people out of office in Fort Bend county and gave the office to all white people who made it illegal to run for office if youre black in that county. So I would not call him an ally.

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I mean, he quite literally forced black people out of office in Fort Bend county and gave the office to all white people who made it illegal to run for office if youre black in that county. So I would not call him an ally.

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Gasp! Was this recent or 175 years ago?

History in context. What is so hard with this concept?

It's not like this was Fort Bend County circa 1995.

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I would be shocked if any TAMU athletes participate in defacing or pulling down the statue. They know there will be severe consequences.

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What evidence do you have for that?

I guess that Mond , Ausbon , Tucker , Brown and others did not feel that way at the last demonstration . I will give credit to Ausbon and Mond trying to restrain Brown and Tucker.

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I mean, he quite literally forced black people out of office in Fort Bend county and gave the office to all white people who made it illegal to run for office if youre black in that county. So I would not call him an ally.

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I'm going to guess that's a pretty biased and incomplete retrospective view of that situation.

We actually have contemporaneous testimony from black people who said he was the best friend black people in TX had. They certainly considered him an ally, and then some. Too bad there weren't more white liberals around back then to tell them how they should really feel, just as they do to minorities today.

Moreover, there are multiple examples of Sully providing black people with opportunities in education, healthcare, and business, as well as protection under the law, which were very enlightened for the time and decades ahead of the curve.

Any objective view would recognize that he was, in fact, and ally to black people for the time and place, just as the black people who lived with him did.

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You can find all kinds of correspondence on what happened in the Jaybird-Woodpecker incident and Sul Ross' involvement, which seemed to be that his main concern was to stop the folks in that county from killing each other, I don't know how much of a hand he had in the ultimate end result

What would happen if history came out about Kellen Mond having in-laws in the confederate army and a Col in the confederate army ?

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I would be shocked if any TAMU athletes participate in defacing or pulling down the statue. They know there will be severe consequences.

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If he got a scholarship to run track, but we cancel the track season, we could theoretically run him off right?

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I guess that Mond , Ausbon , Tucker , Brown and others did not feel that way at the last demonstration . I will give credit to Ausbon and Mond trying to restrain Brown and Tucker.

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I was impressed with Ausbon and his overall demeanor from what I saw. He never seemed to get too worked up and had some dialogue and tried to also maintain some control and ensure it was a peaceful protest. He was the real leader in my opinion, regardless of what his opinion is.

I had personally always questioned Mond's leadership as he never really seemed to motivate guys on the sidelines or show any real emotion (this can be good at times, but mostly negative in my opinion). Seeing how he's acted throughout this whole ordeal really just reinforces my thoughts on his leadership however. In this last protest, Mond didn't really try to restrain anyone from the videos I saw. He more stood to the side of them and had a smirk on his face. He likely wasn't going to let anything escalate too much, but he damn sure wasn't restraining anyone either. He didn't care that Brown was standing there with his shirt off trying to intimidate the other protesters or that he would 'slit' them. He just had a smug ass smirk on his face.

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Fort Bend County was 80% Majority Black in 1870.

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It was 2/3 black, 1/3 white.

Your numbers are as flawed as your analysis.

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To be fair to his numbers, his analysis is way worse.

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It's not an analysis, it's just a statement of facts, ma'am