Inca said:

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I would be shocked if any TAMU athletes participate in defacing or pulling down the statue. They know there will be severe consequences.

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Like what, a Nike contract?

DTP02 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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DTP02 said:

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I think the better practice would be to ignore them.

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Of course that also shows the administration the level of support Sully has.

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The administration is hearing from people with influence and money, and they are being given an idea of how their decisions will impact financial and political support.

If you thing having a confrontation, even a non-violent one, in front of Sully, is going to HELP the cause of keeping Sully, you're thinking of it completely wrong. The last thing the school wants is to keep something that will lead to ugly confrontations. Ignoring the protest and making your voice heard directly to the administration is much more effective.

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I'm happy that the BMAs are letting their stance be heard. At least I assume they're being heard. Maybe they aren't saying anything. Who knows? Being heard and silence sounds the same to us little people.

But you're saying that the students and the alumni should just keep quiet about a major issue for A&M and let someone else handle it. Is that the gist?

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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Inca said:

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I would be shocked if any TAMU athletes participate in defacing or pulling down the statue. They know there will be severe consequences.

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b/c College football players NEVER break the law.

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Breaking the law is one thing, making the big donors mad is another.

As stupid and socialistic as our admin is, they still know someone has to donate to make their lofty ideals possible.

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Mond called all of us Former Students racist. You think he gives a damn about big donors?

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Doesn't sound like Mond is hearing BMAs either. Hopefully someone can hear them.

I would hope/wish that Demani Felder (The Right Brothers) would get a chance to speak to our current athletes. Maybe they have. I just think we have to create an environment that allows true communication and for the "other side" to be heard.

We all know that if it was a conservative group wanting to hold an affirmative action bake sale to protest against the new $100MM in race-based scholarships, they would (1) be required to apply for a speech permit, (2) likely be denied permission, or (3) be limited to a 20'x20' area adjacent to the dumpsters behind Sibisa.

Inca said:

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I would be shocked if any TAMU athletes participate in defacing or pulling down the statue. They know there will be severe consequences.

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you funny...

MouthBQ98 said:

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State jail felony, and there are a lot of cameras. On the area now. If they want to all lose their scholarships...

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Absolutely nothing will happen to them and most likely they will be lauded as heroes. You have your head in the sand if you expect criminal charges.

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TexAgs91 said:

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DTP02 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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DTP02 said:

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I think the better practice would be to ignore them.

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Of course that also shows the administration the level of support Sully has.

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The administration is hearing from people with influence and money, and they are being given an idea of how their decisions will impact financial and political support.

If you thing having a confrontation, even a non-violent one, in front of Sully, is going to HELP the cause of keeping Sully, you're thinking of it completely wrong. The last thing the school wants is to keep something that will lead to ugly confrontations. Ignoring the protest and making your voice heard directly to the administration is much more effective.

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I'm happy that the BMAs are letting their stance be heard. At least I assume they're being heard. Maybe they aren't saying anything. Who knows? Being heard and silence sounds the same to us little people.

But you're saying that the students and the alumni should just keep quiet about a major issue for A&M and let someone else handle it. Is that the gist?

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They should let their voices be heard as well. But if you think have a counter-protest that would inevitably lead to an angry confrontation in front of Sully is going to help keep Sully you've got it completely backwards. That's going to hasten his removal.

If you don't see that, then the anti-Sully folks have you beat in strategic thinking.

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The football team members hurt their side with their threatening behavior. In case you haven't noticed, the people staying home aren't the ones changing this country right now. Oh well. No use in trying to push a rope.

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Best course of action here, imo, is to leave the protestors alone. They seek attention and confrontation, do not give them either

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Agreed.

And I think at this point it's very clear that anything done as a counter is going to be portrayed as racist. I mean, the Ags that stood the last time could not have done much more to be quiet and non-confrontational...but one guy makes a remark that wasn't well thought out and the entire group is portrayed as racists that hate Aggies. Every time something like that is spread on social media, it only helps the anti-Sully side.

I don't agree with the talking points of the anti-Sully crowd. But you have to choose your battles on things like this.

If they try to do something to the statue, it will be on camera...and I don't think a ridiculous display like that would win over hearts and minds to support the removal. I think it would have the opposite impact.

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Guess we can't defend anything anymore, better give in and let the left do what it wants. We definitely don't want to be perceived as racist because that's much worse than letting the statues get torn down.

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Gigem314 said:

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Saltwater Assassin said:

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Best course of action here, imo, is to leave the protestors alone. They seek attention and confrontation, do not give them either

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Agreed.

And I think at this point it's very clear that anything done as a counter is going to be portrayed as racist. I mean, the Ags that stood the last time could not have done much more to be quiet and non-confrontational...but one guy makes a remark that wasn't well thought out and the entire group is portrayed as racists that hate Aggies. Every time something like that is spread on social media, it only helps the anti-Sully side.

I don't agree with the talking points of the anti-Sully crowd. But you have to choose your battles on things like this.

If they try to do something to the statue, it will be on camera...and I don't think a ridiculous display like that would win over hearts and minds to support the removal. I think it would have the opposite impact.

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Guess we can't defend anything anymore, better give in and let the left do what it wants. We definitely don't want to be perceived as racist because that's much worse than letting the statues get torn down.

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Agree. What comes after choosing battles? Put a stop to this, you may or may not keep Sully, but let them have some consequences , since admin jut wants to keep Cush jobs, and elected officials just want to keep getting elected.

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Saltwater Assassin said:

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Best course of action here, imo, is to leave the protestors alone. They seek attention and confrontation, do not give them either

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If no one shows up to stand in front of Sully, then they will pull it down.

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Then everyone on here that doesn't want Sully taken down should show up. Many here can talk a good game, but when it comes to action then step up and show up to protect it. Words here are just words.

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Show up early. Link arms around the statue. They won't be able to breach the circle without touching someone. At that point it becomes a crime against a person and not property.

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If TAMU athletes protest at Sully again, let's hope their respective coaches have talked to them ahead of time. These coaches should be mentors and taking your shirt off and getting in an old man's face isn't the right thing to do - no matter what the protest involves.

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I know we all think this is what should happen, but at this point isn't it apparent that it is not going to happen? Our AD was fully supportive of the terrible behavior of the athletes at the last protest. Young, Bjork, Jimbo won't do a damn thing about anything the athletes do.

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Infinite Tucker


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There will be another protest next Sunday at TAMU

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This is becoming an infinite pain in the ass.

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Tanya 93 said:

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Infinite Tucker


@infinite_tucker
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There will be another protest next Sunday at TAMU

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This is becoming an infinite pain in the ass.

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Yep


I think he would be happier back in NY

I am not sure people like this are capable of being happy.

Skimming through the thread is a firm reminder of the spineless leadership we have. If a clear message had been issued a month ago that removal was off the table and any attempts to illegally remove it would be grounds for expulsion this would have been over...at least for the athletes. Continuing to let it simmer only creates more ill will from both parties. Unfortunately, in the case of Young, he doesn't mind that because he's convinced Texas A&M is a bunch of rednecks that need to be "fixed" or irradiated. At least that's my read on him. And if this ends up causing financial harm to A&M I don't think he gives a damn.

The old ags that took the guard will be there again. We again will take the guard . We will need about 12 More younger ags to help us . See you then be early

Please don't say ridiculous things to the protesters this time. Blackie/blaggie or anything in that vein will most definitely make things worse, not better.

Get ready for another obviously fake hoax like a noose or something so they can justify taking down Sully because of all the "hate" he inspires (never mind it's hate from leftists) they tried to do just this with the windshield hoax and wil ty again with another obvious hoax

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Please don't say ridiculous things to the protesters this time. Blackie/blaggie or anything in that vein will most definitely make things worse, not better.

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Don't say ANYTHING.

Somebody needs to organize a 42 tournament all around Sully.

I actually thought it might be poignant to sit around in some chairs, taking turns reading George Orwell's 1984 out loud.

I wonder if we could get Steven Crowder to set up a table in front of Sully.

Cyn said:

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Police have clearly communicated that they will not protect the statue but will protect lives.

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Is protection of property not part of their job? Perhaps new leadership for the police is needed?