AGHouston11 said:

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Remember the Mississippi teenager who really was set on fire in her car after being beat and raped that died?

Probably not because it got almost no coverage because it didn't fit what the media wants to cover. They didn't like who the suspects were and who the girl was because it didn't fit what they want to show.

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https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/us/jessica-chambers-killing-arrest-mississippi/index.html

This one?

Lighter fluid does not necessarily mean lighter fluid. It just means a flammable liquid. If a person had a Zippo lighter and sprayed the refill liquid on her it would ignite by a flame instantly.

It's also the left side of her face and it absolutely does not look like rug burns in the video in the link below. Y'all need to realize that pictures are valuable, but different lighting, exposures and post processing can make things look way different than reality. Whether or not her story is accurate I don't know, there's been no released video of the incident, but apparently video does exist according to the video in the link. If she's lying it's already known by some, if she's being honest, which I don't doubt, it's already known.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/assault-18-old-biracial-woman-wisconsin-being-investigated-060100298--abc-news-topstories.html

88planoAg said:

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1. no hair or eyebrow damage.
2. no clothing damage.
3. No damage to hands...she indicates she used her hands to stamp out the fire.
4. right side of face only. So the guys who did this were Jason Bourne level talented to hurl or spray accelerant through passenger side window perfectly onto her face and throw a lighter such that the only thing that ignited was the area of her face. Not clothes, etc...The probability that the lighter stayed lit, and ignited at perfect mixture, is extremely unrealistic.
5.We are supposed to believe there are committed racist whites walking around town looking for targets--in an atmosphere where shouting the n word in an urban area is gonna draw down half the town on them? uh huh. And they were walking with spray bottles full of accelerants?
6. Where is the lighter thrown? Must be in the car somewhere.
7. The burns look like friction burns not fire burns. Don't see blistering.
8. Did the 4 guys walk up to her passenger window? Or was this in another car?
9. So we are supposed to believe she is rollin through town at 1am with her music going and her windows down in the summer? Madison is upper midwest, but most people are gonna have windows up regardless because of humidity.

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I think the image is reversed in at least one of the pics. Her injuries are on the left side of her face I believe.

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JFC half the pictures show one side and the other half show the other side...wtf...

lol...

Say its the left side. This means 4 guys approach her car, with windows down, at 1 am downtown.

Most women I know #1 wouldn't be downtown at 1 am, and then they would have windows up, locks engaged, phone handy, weapon handy, and contingency plans to mow mother****ers down that approach the car.

Assuming the left pic is the most accurate one of her injuries since it appears to be in a hospital, why don't these injuries match the two pics below? Specifically, why do we not see the "burns" below her eye and her nose? Why are there no bandages, ointments, etc. on the after pics?

hph6203 said:

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Lighter fluid does not necessarily mean lighter fluid. It just means a flammable liquid. If a person had a Zippo lighter and sprayed the refill liquid on her it would ignite by a flame instantly.

It's also the left side of her face and it absolutely does not look like rug burns in the video in the link below. Y'all need to realize that pictures are valuable, but different lighting, exposures and post processing can make things look way different than reality. Whether or not her story is accurate I don't know, there's been no released video of the incident, but apparently video does exist according to the video in the link. If she's lying it's already known by some, if she's being honest, which I don't doubt, it's already known.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/assault-18-old-biracial-woman-wisconsin-being-investigated-060100298--abc-news-topstories.html

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The comments on that article are surprisingly skeptical

Similar to the "windshield notes"... if this was real, it would be all over the news.

Even the fake news knows this is fake news.

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but apparently video does exist according to the video in the link.

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Not exactly. It says police are reviewing surveillance video from nearby stores in hopes of finding evidence.

No expert, but my first thought looking at this pictures is self inflicted friction burns

Cassius said:

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Lighter fluid (naptha) and flash point review;

The flash point for lighter fluid is (depending on humidity) between 104F and 140F.

This is why when you go to light your ambient temperature charcoal in the weber grill, after soaking the charcoal in lighter fluid, you have to hold the match there for a few seconds before it ignites. Even in the summer, if you just toss a match on to it, the match will often go out before the naptha ignites. The flame from the match must raise the surface temperature of the naptha before the naptha will ignites.

Conversely, once you get it going, even just a little bit, and you add additional lighter fluid...poof! it ignites instantly!

I don't believe that at 1:00am in Dallas, it would be hot enough outside to make it possible to squirt naptha on someone, throw a lighter (which would not just stick to them..it would deflect or "bounce" off, having only stayed in contact for a fraction of a second) and cause it to ignite.

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Damn, we got some smart dudes on this sight. Nice.

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Or just part of the propane lobby

crud. pic not posting... /insert butane_is_a_*******_gas_KOTH.gif

Love Gun said:

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Assuming the left pic is the most accurate one of her injuries since it appears to be in a hospital, why don't these injuries match the two pics below? Specifically, why do we not see the "burns" below her eye and her nose? Why are there no bandages, ointments, etc. on the after pics?

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I'm not saying it's fake, but what happened to the burn under her eye?

FrioAg 00 said:

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No expert, but my first thought looking at this pictures is self inflicted friction burns

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Seriously, looks like she was drug across carpet. Carpet burn...

Bet she put a hot iron to her face.

That's my issue... What fluid ignites then goes out so quickly when you pat it? If it's gas, you aren't patting it out and going home then having to be convinced to go to the hospital. If they threw a lighter, it'd have to be a zippo or similar.

This screams hoax.

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Love Gun said:

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Assuming the left pic is the most accurate one of her injuries since it appears to be in a hospital, why don't these injuries match the two pics below? Specifically, why do we not see the "burns" below her eye and her nose? Why are there no bandages, ointments, etc. on the after pics?

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I'm not saying it's fake, but what happened to the burn under her eye?

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Yeah, from Wednesday night at 1am attack, to whenever the GMA segment was filmed (played Friday morning) the burns under her right eye and under the right side of her nose are gone.

Is her Uncle Juicy involved in this?

Totally ridiculous sounding. If somehow true, though, I hope they find the liberal culprits and confine them for years.

Orrrrrr maybe she was playing with fireworks and she pointed them in the wrong direction...

Only fluid that can "brush out" that I can think of is ether (starting fluid).

But its vapor pressure is insanely high and would be hard to ignite unless she got SOAKED with it. In which case there would be more more damage than some discrete marks on her face.

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Only fluid that can "brush out" that I can think of is ether (starting fluid).

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Doesn't ether volatilize almost instantly? I'm trying to imagine it staying liquid long enough to be sprayed.

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Only fluid that can "brush out" that I can think of is ether (starting fluid).

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Doesn't ether volatilize almost instantly? I'm trying to imagine it staying liquid long enough to be sprayed.

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This is correct. It is why it makes great starting fluid. It vaporizes and creates enough flash without sticking to stuff and melting it.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Only fluid that can "brush out" that I can think of is ether (starting fluid).

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Doesn't ether volatilize almost instantly? I'm trying to imagine it staying liquid long enough to be sprayed.

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yes...thats what I'm saying.

They have to soak her and then fling a match or something.

C@LAg said:

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after she was allegedly set on fire early Wednesday morning by white men yelling racial slurs.




"Investigators are looking at surveillance images to see if any of the assault was captured on camera."

were they just standing in the road while she was in her car?

were they in a car next to hers?

why did she not roll up her window?

or step on the gas immediately?

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Address
300 block State Street
Details
The MPD is investigating an assault on an 18-year-old bi-racial woman as a hate crime after she was burned with lighter fluid early Wednesday morning.
The victim believes she was driving on W. Gorham St. when she stopped for a red light at State St. Her driver's side window was down and she heard someone yell out a racial epithet. She looked and saw four men, all white. She says one used a spray bottle to deploy a liquid on her face and neck, and then threw a flaming lighter at her, causing the liquid to ignite.
She drove forward, patted out the flames, and eventually drove home. Her mother encouraged her to go to a hospital.
Hospital staff believed the liquid was lighter fluid. She was treated for burns, and will need to make follow-up visits to access additional medical care.
Investigators are looking at surveillance images to see if any of the assault was captured on camera.
Anyone with information on this crime is asked to contact Madison Area Crime Stoppers at (608) 266-6014 or by computer at P3Tips.com

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First reaction: Fake News! where y'all act totally shocked when white people do racist things. In reality, this country's history is so full of these events that you cover never handle recounting a tenth of them.

Second reaction is to blame "leftists" as if all racists are left-leaning.

Third reaction is to blame "Democrats" as if all racists vote D. That's the biggest joke of all. It's classic projection combined with whatever self-protecting mentality you want to call it.

Hate to break it to you all. There are countless numbers of white, right-leaning Republican racists out there. They aren't an anomaly.

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First reaction: Fake News! where y'all act totally shocked when white people do racist things. In reality, this country's history is so full of these events that you cover never handle recounting a tenth of them.

Second reaction is to blame "leftists" as if all racists are left-leaning.

Third reaction is to blame "Democrats" as if all racists vote D. That's the biggest joke of all. It's classic projection combined with whatever self-protecting mentality you want to call it.

Hate to break it to you all. There are countless numbers of white, right-leaning Republican racists out there. They aren't an anomaly.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting

HTH