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Wondering if the DOJ and FBI will be investigating. Shouldn't they be seizing all communications within these organizations? Maybe an International court should get involved for the mass murder of millions?

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Most likely the Chinese stole the information. They spend countless amounts of money and time on industrial espionage.

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Which we paid for, and remember Gain of Function was restarted UNDER TRUMP.

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Gaslighting

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That is just straight up lying

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That too.

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Wondering if the DOJ and FBI will be investigating. Shouldn't they be seizing all communications within these organizations? Maybe an International court should get involved for the mass murder of millions?

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Most likely the Chinese stole the information. They spend countless amounts of money and time on industrial espionage.

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Which we paid for, and remember Gain of Function was restarted UNDER TRUMP.

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Gaslighting

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That is just straight up lying

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-lifts-moratorium-on-funding-controversial-high-risk-virus-research/

U.S. Lifts Moratorium on Funding Controversial, High-Risk Virus Research


December 19, 2017

https://www.science.org/content/article/us-halts-funding-new-risky-virus-studies-calls-voluntary-moratorium


No grants for flu, SARS, or MERS while government pursues 1-year risk analysis

• 17 OCT 2014

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2818%2930006-9/fulltext


Fauci was running the NIH

On Dec 19, 2017, the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced that they would resume funding gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus.

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Wondering if the DOJ and FBI will be investigating. Shouldn't they be seizing all communications within these organizations? Maybe an International court should get involved for the mass murder of millions?

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Most likely the Chinese stole the information. They spend countless amounts of money and time on industrial espionage.

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Which we paid for, and remember Gain of Function was restarted UNDER TRUMP.

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Gaslighting

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You are wrong.....try again

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Wondering if the DOJ and FBI will be investigating. Shouldn't they be seizing all communications within these organizations? Maybe an International court should get involved for the mass murder of millions?

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Most likely the Chinese stole the information. They spend countless amounts of money and time on industrial espionage.

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Which we paid for, and remember Gain of Function was restarted UNDER TRUMP.

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Gaslighting

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Proof posted. Gain of Function RESTARTED under Trump.....

Great thread bump

A historical record.

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• The head of the World Health Organisation warned on Tuesday that governments need to prepare for a disease even deadlier than Covid-19.
• He warned that nation states cannot "kick this can down the road" and that the next global disease was bound to "come knocking".
• They are also drafting a broader pandemic treaty which is up for ratification next year.
• "A commitment from this generation [to a pandemic accord] is important, because it is this generation that experienced how awful a small virus could be," said Dr Tedros.

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Will the next pandemic be rolled out to curb social unrest associated with an imminent global economic meltdown?

Most likely aligned with the next election so Joe can go back to the basement for campaigning.

Why was gain of function being pursued? I know most here assume it was to create a super virus to unleash on the world, but I'm betting there's a more reasonable answer.

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Why was gain of function being pursued? I know most here assume it was to create a super virus to unleash on the world, but I'm betting there's a more reasonable answer.

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They will tell you it's so they can learn everything they can about the virus so they can prevent it, fight it going forward, and/or manipulate it to be less severe.

Considering all of the public proclamations of reducing the population by the WEF and the elites I'm just going to believe what they are telling us - they want to figure out how to weed out the population.

COVID was a great practice run...a respiratory virus that only affects the old and the obese is already dialed in pretty well.

Potential. Deadlier. Sounds like a big maybe...

Here We Go Again: WHO Chief Warns of Potential Deadlier Disease than COVID, Urges Global Preparedness via @gatewaypundit https://t.co/TzTLB3Zw7t

— The Gateway Pundit (@gatewaypundit) May 24, 2023

ETA - from the linked article:

"No specific diseases were named. But 'Disease X' a place-holder given to a devastating pathogen not yet discovered is on the UN agency's list of pressing threats."

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Giving benefit of doubt, it was excessive curiosity just to see what they could do to it, hubris in thinking that they could fully control it, and poor safety procedures that released it. The subsequent fear, panic, and ignorance caused the most detrimental impact, not the actual virus. The creation of the us vs them mentality that allowed some truly disgusting behavior was the biggest negative outcome. The fact that the HermanCainAward subreddit even exists, let alone be as popular as it was, is frightening.

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Why was gain of function being pursued? I know most here assume it was to create a super virus to unleash on the world, but I'm betting there's a more reasonable answer.

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Is there a more "reasonable answer"?

I asked this question many times myself. Why gain of function research? Why did we ever do this, fund it, etc? If the goal was that nefarious as to create a virus, super or not, to release on humanity, obviously no one is going to admit that. And I am not ruling that at. But I have never seen what I would consider to be a reasonable answer as to why we would screw around with something so potentially destructive as gain of function research on viruses.

I think their motives were scientific, but selfish or at least recklessly self absorbed. They were trying to find ways to predict and prevent or deal effectively with a future virus outbreak. At least, the Americans and some of the Chinese researchers in actual virology for medical research were. I don't doubt that. But it was argued very strongly by a large contingent in that area of study that in the effort to research transmission risk to humans, creating the vectors and the viruses that could actually achieve that in a lab environment GREATLY increased the risk of a human to human transmissible outbreak actually occurring. The knowledge of how it might happen and how to stop it was far less significant than the actual danger that mode of research presented. They were far more likely to cause what they were allegedly trying to prevent. That sentiment prevailed…briefly. But, some selfish arrogant eggheads managed to offshore the research, then lay low until nobody was paying close attention and resume it with additional funding.

And like complete idiots, they chose a communist nation legendary for poor quality control and covering up cutting corners, at a facility in a massive urban area, and at a bio security level that was laughably inadequate given what they were handling.

There really should be a Nuremberg type international trial for those involved in setting that up.

People will slide back into pandemic protocol as easy as getting back with their ex.

So the idea the people won't stand for it this time is pie-in-the-sky.

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The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

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We had a number of warnings right before covid dropped but we ignored those warnings. Event 201 is an example. The signal to noise ratio was too high.

Now whenever they come out with warnings like this, we'd better listen. If We've learned one thing ... they'll tell you exactly what is about to happen, you've just got to be listening. Nobody gaf about covid when this thread started in Jan 2020.

We listening now though.

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Why was gain of function being pursued? I know most here assume it was to create a super virus to unleash on the world, but I'm betting there's a more reasonable answer.

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Is there a more "reasonable answer"?

I asked this question many times myself. Why gain of function research? Why did we ever do this, fund it, etc? If the goal was that nefarious as to create a virus, super or not, to release on humanity, obviously no one is going to admit that. And I am not ruling that at. But I have never seen what I would consider to be a reasonable answer as to why we would screw around with something so potentially destructive as gain of function research on viruses.

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My less skeptical side is hoping that by improving gain of function, that something good could be learned/created to actually help humanity. Could these viral characteristics be used in other ways to treat diseases and relieve suffering? Could it offer a breakthrough in cancer treatment? The worst part is that now it's political and we'll never know the whole truth.

Starting to agree with you as it also raised awareness on how ignorant the masses can be, even in this age of information.

This was a fun thread. I went to Thailand on vacation around end of Feb when this all started and had to come back early. That was quite the fiasco.

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Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively.

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A 97.2% mortality rate for persons over 65 which were put on a ventilator?

If you recall the Chinese developed the ventilator protocol for treatment of covid patients early on, and the US eagerly adopted it. There was a time in this country where people were screeching for more ventilators.

I don't see how that 97% mortality rate possible, but what do I know?

Three years later, it seems like the Chinese trolled the US into killing a bunch of our own people.

Covid might have been the greatest troll job of all time, along with the greatest failure of leadership of all time.

Also of note, you may remember threads on here, very early on, that warned people not to let their loved ones get put on a ventilator if at all possible. You had a small minority of medical people recommending a ventilator only as a last resort. Turns out they were right. So credit to those posters wherever they are.

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I don't think a reasonable answer exists that would make sense of the highest paid bureaucrat in the federal government circumventing US law and outsourcing highly technical and secret research into creating a bio weapon to the government of a belligerent country with known technical limitations and massively sub-standard health and safety standards (to the point of them being a passing thought at best).

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Money... always follow the money.

This is the most important video you will watch this year. Millions were killed with Covid-19 for profit.

“Covid-19 was an act of biological warfare perpetrated on the human race. It was a financial heist. Nature was hijacked. Science was hijacked.” pic.twitter.com/1sYnVMaIRN

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) May 25, 2023

I have no idea about the validity or the facts being correct.

If y'all know the guy, you can opine. A doctor buddy of mine in Dallas sent it to me today. It's WELL worth a listen.

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This is the most important video you will watch this year. Millions were killed with Covid-19 for profit.

“Covid-19 was an act of biological warfare perpetrated on the human race. It was a financial heist. Nature was hijacked. Science was hijacked.” pic.twitter.com/1sYnVMaIRN

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) May 25, 2023

I have no idea about the validity or the facts being correct.

If y'all know the guy, you can opine. A doctor buddy of mine in Dallas sent it to me today. It's WELL worth a listen.

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Some of you folks out there aren't ready for whats in this video.

I don't want y'all having an existential crisis or anything.

Don't go too far off the rails now, ya hear?

Wow.

Stat, I wasn't sure where to put that. It probably deserves it's own thread, but I don't have enough confidence to know the accuracy of the speaker.

A doctor buddy of mine in Dallas sent it to me yesterday afternoon. I had to take a little time to try and verify it, when and where it was. That's why I asked some of y'all who the guy is and what his background was.

Apparently, it was from May 3rd, I believe. I haven't spoken to my old Aggie buddy who sent it, but will attempt to do so today.

Often times, the hyperbole before a video is just that, hyperbole, but in this case, and assuming it's true and correct, appears to be pretty damned accurate.

Any update? Who is that guy, and where was the speech given?

How close are we to the final numbers being in?

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Any update? Who is that guy, and where was the speech given?

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https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/videos-the-international-covid-summit?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=583200&post_id=121560307&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Looks like he was the moderator of the event, "The International Covid Summit III in the European Parliament, Brussels".

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PANdeMIC oF THe uNVacCiNaTED

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Everything that was done to us, all for the damn flu. Biggest scam in history.

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International Covid Summit III - part 1
Go to 13:10


The speaker appears to be this David Martin
https://www.davidmartin.world

When does the treaty ceding authority over pandemics to the WHO get ratified?

Anyone know?