China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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I may be getting that Macallan 18... assuming Costco itself doesn't get infected with Covid 19 and collapse. My research tells me this isn't likely.
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I'm not exactly sure what their time frame looks like, but I can't imagine it will be too much of a big deal to scale it up to be available for everyone. Obviously that will depend on how complex it is. But if it's just an online tool for determining if you need to go get tested, it seems like it should scale up easily once the bugs are worked out.

Disclaimer: I know slightly less than zero about software programming, so read my comments below the tweet accordingly.
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TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
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dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.


What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant
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I think it's pretty obvious that Verily is building the site with the support and supervision of Google.

Google could easily be a major stack holder in the company. But Trump borrowed their name to give a little more weight to the effort.

Edit:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google-verily-idUSKBN2103DA


Boom there you have it. Google owns Verily.
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Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.


What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant


Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies
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dermdoc said:

Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.


What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant


Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies


Now that is the truth my friend
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My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
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Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.


What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant


Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies


Now that is the truth my friend


I like you
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TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


Verily is Google.

It is their Life Science division.
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andrago94 said:

My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?


Probably flew to a different country first before boarding a flight to the US
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dermdoc said:

Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

Exsurge Domine said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.


What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant


Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies


Now that is the truth my friend


I like you


Another successful TexAgs hookup
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andrago94 said:

My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?


I'm sorry I can't help but laugh, I can't even imagine. I would think I'm being punked
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Man surprised that conference wasn't cancelled. Was looking at Vegas newspaper earlier today and innumerable events cancelled. Place is taking a huge economic hit.
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fightingfarmer09 said:

I think it's pretty obvious that Verily is building the site with the support and supervision of Google.

Google could easily be a major stack holder in the company. But Trump borrowed their name to give a little more weight to the effort.

Edit:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google-verily-idUSKBN2103DA


Boom there you have it. Google owns Verily.


And The article states this. But this was one of his main talking points and a cornerstone for the plan. There was even a graphic. He said it would be "built very fast" and would be available nationwide.

And that's just not the case. The factoid about "Google" isn't the thing that irks me.
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dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Mordred said:

CDub06 said:

Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19

Quote:

Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.

How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?


So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?

Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.

Honestly, I didn't pay a ton of attention to politics when Obama was president. I was relatively informed, of course, and grew increasingly aware in his second term. I totally get the perceived double standard, but I'm no "lib." I just see the sociopathic narcissist in the White House today - one who lies to the American public constantly - and it disgusts me. If I would have paid more attention when Obama was president, I might have been just as disgusted.
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CDub06 said:

fightingfarmer09 said:

I think it's pretty obvious that Verily is building the site with the support and supervision of Google.

Google could easily be a major stack holder in the company. But Trump borrowed their name to give a little more weight to the effort.

Edit:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google-verily-idUSKBN2103DA


Boom there you have it. Google owns Verily.


And The article states this. But this was one of his main talking points and a cornerstone for the plan. There was even a graphic. He said it would be "built very fast" and would be available nationwide.

And that's just not the case. The factoid about "Google" isn't the thing that irks me.
Exactly.
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andrago94 said:

My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
Did he say when the guy came to the US? Perhaps he's been here for a while or was in another country after Wuhan was locked down.
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IrishTxAggie said:

andrago94 said:

My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?


Probably flew to a different country first before boarding a flight to the US
Or....and I know I'm going out on a limb here....he flew here from Wuhan, directly, and the overpaid govt employee tasked with checking him into the country had a sweet Facebook/TikTok/IG post to read instead.
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Boston Public Schools closed for 6 weeks.

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Don't think the Wuhan airport is open back up yet.
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Trumps not perfect by any means, but it is nice to have a president that actually, you know.... likes America.
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They are rolling out the Bay Area as a beta and then nationwide. Seems like a standard process. I don't understand why that is upsetting. You would prefer an untested website go national and cause a panic when it didn't work?
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Illuminaggie said:

Mordred said:

law-apt-3g said:

Permanent scarring of lungs, virus ability to re-infect after recovery, maybe this is manmade due to these odd characteristics of concern.

If so, somebody knows exactly how effed up the virus actually be.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, and your Emoticon suggests you're joking, but please don't spread the disinformation that this is man-made. It's only going to make fear and panic worse, and we don't need more of that.
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No evidence suggests that the virus is man-made. SARS-CoV-2 closely resembles two other coronaviruses that have triggered outbreaks in recent decades, SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, and all three viruses seem to have originated in bats. In short, the characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 fall in line with what we know about other naturally occurring coronaviruses that made the jump from animals to people.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html
I can post more authoritative sources if you like.
Of course it shares characteristics... it's a coronavirus. Isn't it kinda weird that it apparently shares the best of those characteristics? It's like a coronavirus greatest hits. 4 hours in the air, most only minutes. Asymptomatic transmission of over a week possible, hours or days for most others. Longer incubation than most... yadda yadda yadda.

Interestingly enough, the only this that it doesn't seem to have a higher value than others is CFR.... which would make it a better bioweapon.

And it showed up at the doorstep of a lab which had numerous prior breaches.

But yeah, how silly to entertain the notion.
Yah right! Maybe there was too much thought invested into emoticons too.
Especially a silly notion referring to factual information and no scientific authority has determined the exact origination of the virus. A silly notion where there is a possibility to define a definitive path for overcoming the pandemic is worthy enough to ignore consideration of the pants wetters...They soiled already and focused on the MSM anyway.

You said bioweapon....uh oh


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dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.


How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?

For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
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TCTTS said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.


How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?

For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
you mean like closing travel from China while he was being called a racist?
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TCTTS said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.


How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?

For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.


And what difference does that make with mortality or morbidity? That is all I am concerned about. What are you concerned about?
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FPS_Dough said:

TCTTS said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.


How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?

For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
you mean like closing travel from China while he was being called a racist?
Which was great! But also a no-brainer.
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Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

You don't have to defend yourself.

The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.


The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.


C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.

We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.

Trump however is, for you, doing enough.


Please post when I did that
We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism though

But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.


So what should Trump do? What can any politician do to change anything?
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dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

You don't have to defend yourself.

The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.


The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.


C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.

We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.

Trump however is, for you, doing enough.


Please post when I did that
We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism though

But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.


So what should Trump do? What can any politician do to change anything?
I have posted several times what I think he needs to do.

He needs to parrot the CDC and stop pretending there is a magic wand that will do what he wants.

Being a bombastic blowhard proclaiming all is well or blaming the past administration when he could have changed the things he thought they did wrong (NOW) doesn't fix it spreading across the country.
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I agree Trump hasn't handled this well up until today. Today, I thought, was a game changer for this event. Hopefully, it sticks. As far as his comments that he gets wrong like this Google site that won't actually be nationwide - I don't give a sh^t because they are almost always irrelevant in the grand scheme of whatever it is he's trying to do.

His actions since President are all I care about and if you are not a Democrat then you are mostly happy with what he's done. If you are a Democrat, then it would be easy to hold up his misstatements and white lies as some kind of catastrophic indicator of him.
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You dont' think him closing travel from China in the beginning was good? All the while being call a racist?
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dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

dermdoc said:

TCTTS said:

Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.


How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?

For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.


And what difference does that make with mortality or morbidity? That is all I am concerned about. What are you concerned about?

It makes all the difference in the world to everyone who is confused and scared during this once-in-a-lifetime event. To know we have someone at the helm who can't even get a press conference right doesn't instill much confidence.

Also, don't turn this into some faux noble bullsh*t by implying that you're only concerned about lives and I'm not. It's because I'm concerned about "mortality" that I wish we had someone who, at the very least, appeared more competent than he does.
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Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

dermdoc said:

Tanya 93 said:

You don't have to defend yourself.

The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.


The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.


C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.

We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.

Trump however is, for you, doing enough.


Please post when I did that
We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism though

But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.


So what should Trump do? What can any politician do to change anything?
I have posted several times what I think he needs to do.

He needs to parrot the CDC and stop pretending there is a magic wand that will do what he wants.

Being a bombastic blowhard proclaiming all is well or blaming the past administration when he could have changed the things he thought they did wrong (NOW) doesn't fix it spreading across the country.


Maybe if the media didn't force him to always be in the defensive, he'd tone it down a bit. But if all they're going to do is try to destroy and undermine him, I'm fine with his tone and approach.
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FPS_Dough said:

You dont' think him closing travel from China in the beginning was good? All the while being call a racist?
No, that was good. My comments are more around the communication with this thing and the clown show that the CDC has been on testing.
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