I may be getting that Macallan 18... assuming Costco itself doesn't get infected with Covid 19 and collapse. My research tells me this isn't likely.
TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant
dermdoc said:Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant
Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies
Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant
Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies
Now that is the truth my friend
TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
andrago94 said:
My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
dermdoc said:Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:Exsurge Domine said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
What Obama did is not germane. He was crap, I expect better. Trump is much better, but the "what about Obama" stuff is irrelevant
Fair enough. There is just not much any human can do about the corona virus. And to politicize it seems so below Aggies
Now that is the truth my friend
I like you
andrago94 said:
My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
fightingfarmer09 said:
I think it's pretty obvious that Verily is building the site with the support and supervision of Google.
Google could easily be a major stack holder in the company. But Trump borrowed their name to give a little more weight to the effort.
Edit:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google-verily-idUSKBN2103DA
Boom there you have it. Google owns Verily.
dermdoc said:TCTTS said:Mordred said:Jesus. WTF is it with this clown show? I was honestly a little impressed that they were finally getting things right.CDub06 said:
Oh. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19Quote:
Contrary to Trump's claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website
Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area
How can people continue to defend these kind of massive flubs? (I would call them "lies" but I get scolded when I do). For days and weeks now, this guy can't get through a single appearance, speech, or press conference without announcing things that aren't even remotely true or causing massive confusion. I genuinely do not understand how information is mismanaged this poorly. Further, I don't understand how people continue to have faith in an administration that, time and again, gets the messaging *this* wrong. If they're this bad at the messaging, how are we supposed to have faith in their execution?
So where were you during the eight years of Obama? If you like your doctor you can keep him? Or you will save 2500 bucks a year on insurance?
Your partisanship is on display my friend. Wave your lib flag proudly.
Exactly.CDub06 said:fightingfarmer09 said:
I think it's pretty obvious that Verily is building the site with the support and supervision of Google.
Google could easily be a major stack holder in the company. But Trump borrowed their name to give a little more weight to the effort.
Edit:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google-verily-idUSKBN2103DA
Boom there you have it. Google owns Verily.
And The article states this. But this was one of his main talking points and a cornerstone for the plan. There was even a graphic. He said it would be "built very fast" and would be available nationwide.
And that's just not the case. The factoid about "Google" isn't the thing that irks me.
Did he say when the guy came to the US? Perhaps he's been here for a while or was in another country after Wuhan was locked down.andrago94 said:
My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
Or....and I know I'm going out on a limb here....he flew here from Wuhan, directly, and the overpaid govt employee tasked with checking him into the country had a sweet Facebook/TikTok/IG post to read instead.IrishTxAggie said:andrago94 said:
My BIL had to work CONEXPO in Vegas this week. Today some guy from Wuhan showed up to his booth. How did he get in the country?
Probably flew to a different country first before boarding a flight to the US
Yah right! Maybe there was too much thought invested into emoticons too.Illuminaggie said:Of course it shares characteristics... it's a coronavirus. Isn't it kinda weird that it apparently shares the best of those characteristics? It's like a coronavirus greatest hits. 4 hours in the air, most only minutes. Asymptomatic transmission of over a week possible, hours or days for most others. Longer incubation than most... yadda yadda yadda.Mordred said:I'm not sure what you're referring to, and your Emoticon suggests you're joking, but please don't spread the disinformation that this is man-made. It's only going to make fear and panic worse, and we don't need more of that.law-apt-3g said:
Permanent scarring of lungs, virus ability to re-infect after recovery, maybe this is manmade due to these odd characteristics of concern.
If so, somebody knows exactly how effed up the virus actually be.I can post more authoritative sources if you like.Quote:
No evidence suggests that the virus is man-made. SARS-CoV-2 closely resembles two other coronaviruses that have triggered outbreaks in recent decades, SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, and all three viruses seem to have originated in bats. In short, the characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 fall in line with what we know about other naturally occurring coronaviruses that made the jump from animals to people.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html
Interestingly enough, the only this that it doesn't seem to have a higher value than others is CFR.... which would make it a better bioweapon.
And it showed up at the doorstep of a lab which had numerous prior breaches.
But yeah, how silly to entertain the notion.
dermdoc said:TCTTS said:
Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.
How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?
you mean like closing travel from China while he was being called a racist?TCTTS said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:
Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.
How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?
For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
TCTTS said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:
Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.
How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?
For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
Which was great! But also a no-brainer.FPS_Dough said:you mean like closing travel from China while he was being called a racist?TCTTS said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:
Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.
How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?
For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
Tanya 93 said:We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism thoughdermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.dermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:
You don't have to defend yourself.
The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.
The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.
C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.
Trump however is, for you, doing enough.
Please post when I did that
But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.
I have posted several times what I think he needs to do.dermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism thoughdermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.dermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:
You don't have to defend yourself.
The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.
The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.
C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.
Trump however is, for you, doing enough.
Please post when I did that
But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.
So what should Trump do? What can any politician do to change anything?
dermdoc said:TCTTS said:dermdoc said:TCTTS said:
Jesus, dude. I'm being as honest as I possibly can be. Yet all you can do is mock and make snide comments.
How so? And what do you want Trump to do? What could he do to make you happy?
For starters, he could give press conferences that don't require multiple walk-backs and clarifications after the fact, thus causing more confusion in a time where confusion is the last thing we need. Before that, it would have been nice to see him not downplay the virus as much as he did, to the point of telling blatant lies. And the cherry on top would be to quit blaming everyone else every chance he gets. I'm not saying *he's* to blame, but the constant need to disparage everyone else isn't a good look right now. In short, I wish he inspired more confidence. I wish he would provide more clarity and practice more empathy. Simply, I wish he would act more worthy of his title.
And what difference does that make with mortality or morbidity? That is all I am concerned about. What are you concerned about?
Tanya 93 said:I have posted several times what I think he needs to do.dermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:We didn't have this virus during a Democrat administration. I can't prove that. We can show the whataboutism thoughdermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:And he was being honest and you attack because he thinks Trump has not handled this Coronavirus thing well.dermdoc said:Tanya 93 said:
You don't have to defend yourself.
The whatabout Obama will never end while Trump is President. It is their "Trump" card.
The obsessiveness some have in defending anything he does it kinda creepy IMO.
C'mon Tanya. You know me better than that.
We both know that if this was happening during the administration of a Democrat, you would be *****ing your ass off that the Democrat wasn't doing enough.
Trump however is, for you, doing enough.
Please post when I did that
But you were rude to TCCCS because he thinks Trump isn't doing enough. And you derailed with Obama.
So what should Trump do? What can any politician do to change anything?
He needs to parrot the CDC and stop pretending there is a magic wand that will do what he wants.
Being a bombastic blowhard proclaiming all is well or blaming the past administration when he could have changed the things he thought they did wrong (NOW) doesn't fix it spreading across the country.
No, that was good. My comments are more around the communication with this thing and the clown show that the CDC has been on testing.FPS_Dough said:
You dont' think him closing travel from China in the beginning was good? All the while being call a racist?