Whiskey Jacket said:

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Is there a source that shows the infections broken down by age group? All I read says older people are more susceptible, but what data is that based on?

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VaultingChemist said:

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KorbinDallas said:

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VaultingChemist said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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This whole thing is laughable. How many people died of common flu this year? I'll bet my house it's more than ever dies from coronavirus in the USA.

Oh and I'd ridicule the cdc that dropped off infected people at a mall but last time I said CDC was politicized trash I was called an antivaxxer and banned by staff for being "aggressive" even tho I insulted no one and another poster called me garbage.

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You know how I know you're new here........


Seriously, don't try to make this all about you and your feels.

Sack up, do some research and try to keep up with the rest of us.

It's a much bigger issue than just an infection at this point. Big changes coming to economy and society with this.

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Be nice!

Especially to those who haven't been following this disease closely.

Normalcy bias is going to be very difficult to overcome for a lot of people.

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You say to be nice, but you have to admit it's pretty rude to come to a thread with over 10,000 posts, and make the same tired argument that (I feel) has been soundly disproven dozens of times. I have no doubt we will continue to see this as things heat up. When people come in and don't bother to read anything about the virus other than what's of the msm it's frustrating to those who have taken the time to research and share huge amounts of excellent information like many in this thread.

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Yes, it is rude. But after he posted that he didn't know there was a relationship between coronavirus and pneumonia, I felt like I was talking to a passenger on the Titanic who was laughing at the people boarding the life boats.

Most things aren't a matter of life and death. This one actually is.

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law-apt-3g said:

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tysker said:

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yukmonkey said:

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Really wish people could focus on posting news and facts here. Sifting through 200 responses to find anything valuable is getting tougher and tougher.

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Maybe there's just no relevant or valuable news to discuss. Do we need to post every conference or music festival that is being canceled? Until this reaches Texas, its not going to be super relevant for most of us.

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It's in Texas

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dragmagpuff said:

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tysker said:

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yukmonkey said:

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Really wish people could focus on posting news and facts here. Sifting through 200 responses to find anything valuable is getting tougher and tougher.

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Maybe there's just no relevant or valuable news to discuss. Do we need to post every conference or music festival that is being canceled? Until this reaches Texas, its not going to be super relevant for most of us.

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It did reach Texas in Fort Bend County.

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"While people need to remain vigilant, there is currently no need for average Houstonains to take out-of-the-ordinary protective actions," Turner said.

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Coronavirus in N.Y.: 9 New Cases, All Connected to Westchester Man

The state's disease detectives continued working furiously, sorting through the circle of friends, family and co-workers of the people who had tested positive for the virus. State officials said they had asked more than 1,000 people to voluntarily isolate themselves.

"We are trying to do as much investigation work as possible," Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said. He added: "It's impossible to fully contain it, but you put enough people on notice."

The nine new cases in New York on Wednesday included the Westchester man's wife; his son, a 20-year-old college student in Manhattan; his daughter, 14; and a neighbor who drove the man to the hospital.

A friend of the man who spent time "in close proximity" with him also tested positive for the virus, as did that friend's wife and three of their children, Mr. Cuomo said.

Officials said they were still uncertain how the man, 50, who had not been to any areas with widespread transmission of the virus, had become infected. He became ill on Feb. 22 and was admitted to NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital in Bronxville, N.Y., five days later.

So far, public health workers have focused their efforts on determining whether any other people connected to the man were infected. They advised some nurses and doctors at the hospital in Bronxville that they would need to be quarantined. Eight employees there were being tested for the virus, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday.

On Tuesday night, restaurants on a main avenue in New Rochelle were nearly empty, and store shelves had been cleared out of spray disinfectant, rubbing alcohol and bleach.

Health officials halted all services at the synagogue the family attended, Young Israel of New Rochelle, closing the house of worship until March 8. They also told anyone who had attended a funeral and a bat mitzvah there on Feb. 23 to self-quarantine in their homes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-yeshiva-university.html

Last I saw he was in critical condition. One man impacts about 1000 people. No trace on how he got it.


Unfortunately If this happened to him, this (getting infected or being traced to an infected person) could happen to any of us.

This virus is wicked. It's not fear mongering, it's reality at this point.

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tysker said:

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dragmagpuff said:

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tysker said:

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yukmonkey said:

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Really wish people could focus on posting news and facts here. Sifting through 200 responses to find anything valuable is getting tougher and tougher.

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Maybe there's just no relevant or valuable news to discuss. Do we need to post every conference or music festival that is being canceled? Until this reaches Texas, its not going to be super relevant for most of us.

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It did reach Texas in Fort Bend County.

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presumptive =/ positive
That doesnt mean we shouldn't be diligent but even the article quotes the Mayor:

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"While people need to remain vigilant, there is currently no need for average Houstonains to take out-of-the-ordinary protective actions," Turner said.

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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Aggie118 said:

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I think rather than being completely afraid of the virus and it's symptoms, people (like myself) are uneasy about the tumult and disorder that is coming about from this virus, and will continue to do so, both economically and in everyday life with shortages of supplies, tanking markets, etc... people are like tuscan raiders, if you will. They scare easily, but they'll be back (panicking), and in greater numbers.

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Rapier108 said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Coronavirus in N.Y.: 9 New Cases, All Connected to Westchester Man

The state's disease detectives continued working furiously, sorting through the circle of friends, family and co-workers of the people who had tested positive for the virus. State officials said they had asked more than 1,000 people to voluntarily isolate themselves.

"We are trying to do as much investigation work as possible," Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said. He added: "It's impossible to fully contain it, but you put enough people on notice."

The nine new cases in New York on Wednesday included the Westchester man's wife; his son, a 20-year-old college student in Manhattan; his daughter, 14; and a neighbor who drove the man to the hospital.

A friend of the man who spent time "in close proximity" with him also tested positive for the virus, as did that friend's wife and three of their children, Mr. Cuomo said.

Officials said they were still uncertain how the man, 50, who had not been to any areas with widespread transmission of the virus, had become infected. He became ill on Feb. 22 and was admitted to NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital in Bronxville, N.Y., five days later.

So far, public health workers have focused their efforts on determining whether any other people connected to the man were infected. They advised some nurses and doctors at the hospital in Bronxville that they would need to be quarantined. Eight employees there were being tested for the virus, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday.

On Tuesday night, restaurants on a main avenue in New Rochelle were nearly empty, and store shelves had been cleared out of spray disinfectant, rubbing alcohol and bleach.

Health officials halted all services at the synagogue the family attended, Young Israel of New Rochelle, closing the house of worship until March 8. They also told anyone who had attended a funeral and a bat mitzvah there on Feb. 23 to self-quarantine in their homes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-yeshiva-university.html

Last I saw he was in critical condition. One man impacts about 1000 people. No trace on how he got it.


Unfortunately If this happened to him, this (getting infected or being traced to an infected person) could happen to any of us.

This virus is wicked. It's not fear mongering, it's reality at this point.

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Of course part of the problem is he (and his son) continued to go about their usual routines while showing symptoms.

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Tanya 93 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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would it even be possible to reschedule something this big for the summer in Austin? And would people want to come then/

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tysker said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Quote:

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Coronavirus in N.Y.: 9 New Cases, All Connected to Westchester Man

The state's disease detectives continued working furiously, sorting through the circle of friends, family and co-workers of the people who had tested positive for the virus. State officials said they had asked more than 1,000 people to voluntarily isolate themselves.

"We are trying to do as much investigation work as possible," Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said. He added: "It's impossible to fully contain it, but you put enough people on notice."

The nine new cases in New York on Wednesday included the Westchester man's wife; his son, a 20-year-old college student in Manhattan; his daughter, 14; and a neighbor who drove the man to the hospital.

A friend of the man who spent time "in close proximity" with him also tested positive for the virus, as did that friend's wife and three of their children, Mr. Cuomo said.

Officials said they were still uncertain how the man, 50, who had not been to any areas with widespread transmission of the virus, had become infected. He became ill on Feb. 22 and was admitted to NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital in Bronxville, N.Y., five days later.

So far, public health workers have focused their efforts on determining whether any other people connected to the man were infected. They advised some nurses and doctors at the hospital in Bronxville that they would need to be quarantined. Eight employees there were being tested for the virus, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday.

On Tuesday night, restaurants on a main avenue in New Rochelle were nearly empty, and store shelves had been cleared out of spray disinfectant, rubbing alcohol and bleach.

Health officials halted all services at the synagogue the family attended, Young Israel of New Rochelle, closing the house of worship until March 8. They also told anyone who had attended a funeral and a bat mitzvah there on Feb. 23 to self-quarantine in their homes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-yeshiva-university.html

Last I saw he was in critical condition. One man impacts about 1000 people. No trace on how he got it.


Unfortunately If this happened to him, this (getting infected or being traced to an infected person) could happen to any of us.

This virus is wicked. It's not fear mongering, it's reality at this point.

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Of course part of the problem is he (and his son) continued to go about their usual routines while showing symptoms.

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Hard to blame them when its unclear how/when/where the man became infected and the symptoms seem so benign

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Tabasco said:

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eric76 said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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KorbinDallas said:

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claym711 said:

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One thing is certain. If the outbreak is not controlled, a 1-2% death rate would be devastating. It's odd tha mostt ppl don't seem to grasp the potential for a disaster No one wants.

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And what will raise that 1-2% to 3-4%(or higher) is if the cases come in faster than the healthcare system can deal with them. Commercial hospitals don't keep large numbers of empty beds, especially the ones needed for ICU and other serious patients. So if hospital trips increase by a large percentage it can cause major issues. Not to mention if Dr.s and nurses, first responders and other staff get quarantined Or sick themselves.

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. Are you kidding? The number of cases in the USA is negligible. You have more of a chance of being hit by lightning. This whole hysteria is politicized bullsh*t

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Something like 30 to 40 people die from lightning strikes in the US each year. The death toll in the US from coronavirus is already up to 11.

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Totally unrelated to Corona Virus.

I am a Clinical Psychologist. I did a practicum at Warm Springs Rehabilitation Hospital in Warm Springs, GA (where FDR did his polio treatments). I had TWO separate patients within the year I was there that were both struck with lighting. Seriously... I met two people that were both struck by lighting and survived. Oddly, they both shared one similarity, an unquenchable thirst. They both independently said they were constantly thirsty.

That's all. Just always found that to be interesting.

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tysker said:

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Didnt Apple pull out of SXSW? I'm sure some others will pull out due to an abundance of caution. Especially the firms that see festivals like SXSW as a money loser anyways

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JesusQuintana said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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would it even be possible to reschedule something this big for the summer in Austin? And would people want to come then/

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IMO rescheduling should be of little concern right now. We have no cases (yet) in Austin and keeping it that way should be the goal. Having a thousands of people come from all over the country and world to stand tightly packed in bars, etc. does not seem like a sound idea right now. Not only can that spread it locally, but people will fly home to wherever and possibly spread it there as well.

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one MEEN Ag said:

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Tabasco said:

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eric76 said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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KorbinDallas said:

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claym711 said:

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One thing is certain. If the outbreak is not controlled, a 1-2% death rate would be devastating. It's odd tha mostt ppl don't seem to grasp the potential for a disaster No one wants.

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And what will raise that 1-2% to 3-4%(or higher) is if the cases come in faster than the healthcare system can deal with them. Commercial hospitals don't keep large numbers of empty beds, especially the ones needed for ICU and other serious patients. So if hospital trips increase by a large percentage it can cause major issues. Not to mention if Dr.s and nurses, first responders and other staff get quarantined Or sick themselves.

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. Are you kidding? The number of cases in the USA is negligible. You have more of a chance of being hit by lightning. This whole hysteria is politicized bullsh*t

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Something like 30 to 40 people die from lightning strikes in the US each year. The death toll in the US from coronavirus is already up to 11.

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Totally unrelated to Corona Virus.

I am a Clinical Psychologist. I did a practicum at Warm Springs Rehabilitation Hospital in Warm Springs, GA (where FDR did his polio treatments). I had TWO separate patients within the year I was there that were both struck with lighting. Seriously... I met two people that were both struck by lighting and survived. Oddly, they both shared one similarity, an unquenchable thirst. They both independently said they were constantly thirsty.

That's all. Just always found that to be interesting.

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Any regression analysis on the quantity of golf courses in a given area compared to the density of lightning strikes? Make sure you use SPSS and site your sources using APA.

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AeroAg2003 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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would it even be possible to reschedule something this big for the summer in Austin? And would people want to come then/

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IMO rescheduling should be of little concern right now. We have no cases (yet) in Austin and keeping it that way should be the goal. Having a thousands of people come from all over the country and world to stand tightly packed in bars, etc. does not seem like a sound idea right now. Not only can that spread it locally, but people will fly home to wherever and possibly spread it there as well.

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Little do most know, Austin held one of the world's largest aircraft trading and financing conferences this past Sunday through Wednesday. The virus is either going to spread and we are going to get past it (with many infected) or we are going to have to completely shut down nearly all commerce.

I'm for the get through it path (with a strong focus on hygiene). I'm not sure you can really stop it without completely tanking the economy for a very long time.

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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tysker said:

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law-apt-3g said:

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tysker said:

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yukmonkey said:

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Really wish people could focus on posting news and facts here. Sifting through 200 responses to find anything valuable is getting tougher and tougher.

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Maybe there's just no relevant or valuable news to discuss. Do we need to post every conference or music festival that is being canceled? Until this reaches Texas, its not going to be super relevant for most of us.

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It's in Texas

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And all known cases (for now) are in quarantine... Unless that's changed.

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AeroAg2003 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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JesusQuintana said:

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Muy said:

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Major business conferences are being shut down. Shop.org in Vegas, a large retail/e-commerce show has been **** down later this month.

Business travel in our company of 50k employees has been **** down unless the travel is critical.

Many customers are requesting no onsite meetings from any vendors for now.

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Not SXSW in austin though...the show must go on. Yesterday they said cancelling the event will not make the residents any safer...baffling.

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would it even be possible to reschedule something this big for the summer in Austin? And would people want to come then/

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IMO rescheduling should be of little concern right now. We have no cases (yet) in Austin and keeping it that way should be the goal. Having a thousands of people come from all over the country and world to stand tightly packed in bars, etc. does not seem like a sound idea right now. Not only can that spread it locally, but people will fly home to wherever and possibly spread it there as well.

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Little do most know, Austin held one of the world's largest aircraft trading and financing conferences this past Sunday through Wednesday. The virus is either going to spread and we are going to get past it (with many infected) or we are going to have to completely shut down nearly all commerce.

I'm for the get through it path (with a strong focus on hygiene). I'm not sure you can really stop it without completely tanking the economy for a very long time.

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Rapier108 said:

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tysker said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Quote:

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Coronavirus in N.Y.: 9 New Cases, All Connected to Westchester Man

The state's disease detectives continued working furiously, sorting through the circle of friends, family and co-workers of the people who had tested positive for the virus. State officials said they had asked more than 1,000 people to voluntarily isolate themselves.

"We are trying to do as much investigation work as possible," Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said. He added: "It's impossible to fully contain it, but you put enough people on notice."

The nine new cases in New York on Wednesday included the Westchester man's wife; his son, a 20-year-old college student in Manhattan; his daughter, 14; and a neighbor who drove the man to the hospital.

A friend of the man who spent time "in close proximity" with him also tested positive for the virus, as did that friend's wife and three of their children, Mr. Cuomo said.

Officials said they were still uncertain how the man, 50, who had not been to any areas with widespread transmission of the virus, had become infected. He became ill on Feb. 22 and was admitted to NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital in Bronxville, N.Y., five days later.

So far, public health workers have focused their efforts on determining whether any other people connected to the man were infected. They advised some nurses and doctors at the hospital in Bronxville that they would need to be quarantined. Eight employees there were being tested for the virus, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday.

On Tuesday night, restaurants on a main avenue in New Rochelle were nearly empty, and store shelves had been cleared out of spray disinfectant, rubbing alcohol and bleach.

Health officials halted all services at the synagogue the family attended, Young Israel of New Rochelle, closing the house of worship until March 8. They also told anyone who had attended a funeral and a bat mitzvah there on Feb. 23 to self-quarantine in their homes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-yeshiva-university.html

Last I saw he was in critical condition. One man impacts about 1000 people. No trace on how he got it.


Unfortunately If this happened to him, this (getting infected or being traced to an infected person) could happen to any of us.

This virus is wicked. It's not fear mongering, it's reality at this point.

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Of course part of the problem is he (and his son) continued to go about their usual routines while showing symptoms.

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Hard to blame them when its unclear how/when/where the man became infected and the symptoms seem so benign

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But when you're sick, just stay home. Doesn't matter if it is mild and you think it is just a cold. If people would do this, we would have far fewer cases of flu/colds/stomach viruses/etc. every year.

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VaultingChemist said:

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A very short summary on the virus for those who haven't kept up on this thread...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1235402290997141505.html

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