How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

nortex97 said:

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Umm, when Chinese communist government comes for you, just get in the van as ordered. "Trust us" they said, "we are doing this in your best interests."

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3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

Bobcat06 said:

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How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

http://read.gov/aesop/052.html

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fify,

edit* I'm not sure you are paying attention, but I am very much on the hope for the best, prepare for the worst side of the fence here.... I don't tell people not to get the flu shot, I just don't personally have a need for it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

nortex97 said:

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Umm, when Chinese communist government comes for you, just get in the van as ordered. "Trust us" they said, "we are doing this in your best interests."

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tysker said:

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nortex97 said:

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Umm, when Chinese communist government comes for you, just get in the van as ordered. "Trust us" they said, "we are doing this in your best interests."

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3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

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scottimus said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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There's still a huge range of possibilities between global Ebola and the common cold.

The scenarios we have historically to look at for comparably contagious viruses are influenza, SARS, and MERS outbreaks.

Given the corona virus family is responsible for some highly transmissible common cold strains on a regular basis, this virus could very easily keep escaping containment and spreading. It appears to be very transmissible. We still don't know how dangerous it really is, but the bodies and large numbers of hospitalizations in China is clearly worthy of concern.

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The risk that you are insinuating is quite concerning based on those two polar opposites.
I will build a proper risk model, here, shortly.

Lets start with a sliding scale and I will let you initiate where you think we are...

Where are we now?


Apocalyptic------------------------------------------------------0------------------------------------------------------Absolutely Nothing

You go first

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Ok, I will go first.

Based on everything we know, have seen, and can judge, I would say we are about here:


(-50) Apocalyptic----------------------------------------V----------0--------------------------------------------------Absolutely (50)


By the way, I put 50 dashes on each side
0 = Reasonable Action/Concern


That would mean: -10 from 0 (reasonability), -60 from Absolutely nothing, +40 from Apocalyptic.

I am open to edits and other interpretations.

Bobcat06 said:

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How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

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I haven't gotten a flu shot since I was 4 or 5. Not going to get one either.

Quote:

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https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

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that article isn't crazy when you consider the first american patient released from hospital.... was treated in the hospital by a robot.... come on... I was at Presby twice while the Ebola S was happening. No robots. None.

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/robot-doc-treats-man-in-everett-with-coronavirus/

KorbinDallas said:

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China admits "shortcomings" as global efforts to stop deadly coronavirus ramp up

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-death-toll-latest-2020-02-04/#

It worries me that China is starting to move away from their official "everything is fine" position.

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Its good that they are letting American people in to take a look. Means we may start getting REAL data.

will25u said:

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KorbinDallas said:

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China admits "shortcomings" as global efforts to stop deadly coronavirus ramp up

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-death-toll-latest-2020-02-04/#

It worries me that China is starting to move away from their official "everything is fine" position.

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Its good that they are letting American people in to take a look. Means we may start getting REAL data.

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You said the magic word MAY....

third coast.. said:

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Dudes a look if you look back a page or 2

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I did. The Zerohedge article I posted was published on February 4. I checked all the February 4 posts on this thread before I posted & it wasn't there. The earlier post mentioning Dr. Boyle was on February 3 & referenced googling Zerohedge. That would be this article from February 3:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-probe-wuhan-institute-virology
where there was only a short reference to Dr. Boyle with a link to another publication from India.

will25u said:

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KorbinDallas said:

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China admits "shortcomings" as global efforts to stop deadly coronavirus ramp up

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-death-toll-latest-2020-02-04/#

It worries me that China is starting to move away from their official "everything is fine" position.

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Its good that they are letting American people in to take a look. Means we may start getting REAL data.

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Na, our folks will get to see what China wants them to see.

By itself, it does not.

That would just be a bizaro over abundance of caution. One might wonder if the numbers dont look that bad why such abundance of caution would be taken. Unless of course facilities treating patients known to carry the virus are receiving supplemental
non-public information.

Civil.Savage said:

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By itself, it does not.

That would just be a bizaro over abundance of caution. One might wonder if the numbers dont look that bad why such abundance of caution would be taken. Unless of course facilities treating patients known to carry the virus are receiving supplemental
non-public information.

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At the time the treatment in reference started weren't the severity of the illness and method and likelihood of transmission basically unknowns? Seems like abundant caution would be warranted.

nortex97 said:

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Umm, when Chinese communist government comes for you, just get in the van as ordered. "Trust us" they said, "we are doing this in your best interests."

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Dude should be estatic. Didn't the NYT just write something about how long it is taking to see a doctor or get an ambulance? Yep seems very odd.

Civil.Savage said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

http://read.gov/aesop/052.html

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fify,

edit* I'm not sure you are paying attention, but I am very much on the hope for the best, prepare for the worst side of the fence here.... I don't tell people not to get the flu shot, I just don't personally have a need for it.

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That story is false. I saw a movie where grasshoppers smartly have fun and allow ants to do all the work. Then, they swoop in and steal all the food. The ants never once told the grasshoppers to dance.

Right now I am at less deadly than SARS (8% fatal), more deadly than Influenza (0.02% fatal at worst), with transmissibility similar to that of influenza, which spreads globally on a regular basis. That is about as narrow as the data goes.

Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

Or the men have more underlying health issues so they have a weakened/compromised immune system?

Zemira said:

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Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

Or the men have more underlying health issues so they have a weakened/compromised immune system?

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It won't hit as many males here because too many don't feel they have a Y chromosome.

Zemira said:

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Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

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I believe that the theory on why men are twice as likely to die from this has to do with particular receptors on cells in the lungs.

Zemira said:

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Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

Or the men have more underlying health issues so they have a weakened/compromised immune system?

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Beat me to it, but I would say that it's because men outnumber women by somewhere well north of 2:1

The UK Foreign Office is instructing all UK nationals to leave China if they can. Also, the people themselves are on the hook to find their own way home via commercial means.

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Dominic Raab has urged all British nationals in China to leave the country if they can following the outbreak of the coronavirus, which has spread to two dozen countries.

The foreign secretary said in statement: "The safety and security of British people will always be our top priority. As such, we now advise British nationals in China to leave the country if they can, to minimise their risk of exposure to the virus.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/04/dominic-raab-urges-britons-china-leave-coronavirus-outbreak

Pneumonia or acute respiratory disorder seems to be the mechanism of death. This thing could wipe out large numbers of those with serious respiratory conditions or weak immune systems and the elderly who are already at much higher risk for pneumonia complications and death. The healthy probably would be fine. I imagine since we tend to vaccinate our elderly against pneumonia causing secondary pathogens, our population would be less affected.

Zemira said:

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Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

Or the men have more underlying health issues so they have a weakened/compromised immune system?

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A lot more men in China smoke than women. Seeing how this virus effects the respiratory system, that might be one factor.

Thread on Macau casinos closing for 15 days...

IrishTxAggie said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

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I haven't gotten a flu shot since I was 4 or 5. Not going to get one either.

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Use to be the same way, I don't think I got a flu shot from 18-27. Then caught the flu and was down for almost 2 weeks. Now I get it just Incase I catch that particular strain it isn't as bad, it's a 2 day cold and I move on. But saying, I don't get it because you think you have this other worldly immune system is foolish.

You may have less risk factors than the average person which puts you at less risk of catching it, but when you do it's going to put you on your ass.

On subject, Chiba has a huge problem, hopefully we don't over here. Mildly concerned but chaos in the states I'm not concerned about. Economic issues relating to this, of course there will be, but I'm youngish, still have a good job and have some decent amount to throw into the market on the next Big Dipper.

willjohnathan said:

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Zemira said:

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Is that because men outnumber women that much in China or is there something in the virus makeup that makes it more lethal to people with a Y chromosome?

Or the men have more underlying health issues so they have a weakened/compromised immune system?

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A lot more men in China smoke than women. Seeing how this virus effects the respiratory system, that might be one factor.

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I was going to post that. It may just be that because more men are smokers, they are more prone to dying of pneumonia once the complications begin.

"I haven't died yet therefore I will never die"

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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How many of you mocking the rest of us for taking precautions against the Coronavirus never even get a flu shot?

I've got a story for you:

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I haven't gotten a flu shot since I was 4 or 5. Not going to get one either.

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Use to be the same way, I don't think I got a flu shot from 18-27. Then caught the flu and was down for almost 2 weeks. Now I get it just Incase I catch that particular strain it isn't as bad, it's a 2 day cold and I move on. But saying, I don't get it because you think you have this other worldly immune system is foolish.

You may have less risk factors than the average person which puts you at less risk of catching it, but when you do it's going to put you on your ass.

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I never said I had a worldly immune system or anything like that. I just don't see a reason to inject myself with a vaccine when their hit rate on the strains has a tendency to be pretty abysmal.