MouthBQ98 said:

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China needs to implement widespread cultural changes regarding hygiene,cuisine, and medicine or it will remain a constant threat as a vector for pandemics

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Considering China was also the origin for the Black Plague and the Spanish Flu, I'd say they likely aren't going to change. It's a perfect combination of scenarios the lead to a virus soup.

yukmonkey said:

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Schu in Mizzou said:

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The markets are once again factoring in nCoV fears as Asia and European markets fall and the US market is down 0.6% (160 pts) prior to open this morning.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/coronavirus-fears-send-stocks-tumbling-again

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...or it's just another small market fluctuation that happens every day.

Call me when futures are down a thousand points on nCov fears.

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Xi Jinping says "Hold my beer"

yukmonkey said:

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Schu in Mizzou said:

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The markets are once again factoring in nCoV fears as Asia and European markets fall and the US market is down 0.6% (160 pts) prior to open this morning.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/coronavirus-fears-send-stocks-tumbling-again

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...or it's just another small market fluctuation that happens every day.

Call me when futures are down a thousand points on nCov fears.

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The market is certainly watching but I'd bet there's more downside protection being purchased for a Sanders/Warren election win in November. We wont see effects on earnings until May

Russia has closed their Far East border with China in an attempt to limit spread of the virus. Putin is a lot more concerned about this than we are.

https://www.rt.com/russia/479567-russia-china-border-coronavirus/

UTExan said:

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Russia has closed their Far East border with China in an attempt to limit spread of the virus. Putin is a lot more concerned about this than we are.

https://www.rt.com/russia/479567-russia-china-border-coronavirus/

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Maybe because he shares a border. Has he stopped all flights/travel from China?

MouthBQ98 said:

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China needs to implement widespread cultural changes regarding hygiene,cuisine, and medicine or it will remain a constant threat as a vector for pandemics

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When it comes to cuisine... Americans eat some pretty nasty stuff.

Tilapia is pretty bad and if you've seen Mike Rowe's "Dirty Jobs" on it... you'd never eat it again. They farm it near sewage treatment facilities where they eat the solids from the sewage - Poop.



And yet, Americans gobble that stuff up like it is a delicacy.

Crawfish, catfish, lobsters are the rats of the water.

People eat squirrels... and back in the 90s, Louisiana was trying to trick people into eating Nutria, like we eat crawfish.

Hindus are shocked we eat beef.

Most importantly, if you've ever raised chickens... you might find eating chicken a little more disgusting.

What China needs is less communism and more freedom and capitalism. The problem they have is trying to decentralize their huge cities.

B-1 83 said:

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UTExan said:

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Russia has closed their Far East border with China in an attempt to limit spread of the virus. Putin is a lot more concerned about this than we are.

https://www.rt.com/russia/479567-russia-china-border-coronavirus/

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Maybe because he shares a border. Has he stopped all flights/travel from China?

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If Trump really cared about Americans, he'd shut our border with China... or Mexico... You know... to be more like his friend Putin.

erudite said:

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To say that is sadly true.

Most people I know in college station are not even slightly worried.

People still out drinking and partying without a care.

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How do you think people should reacting?

foleyt said:

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Source: http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2020/01-30/9073220.shtml
Li Lanjuan: Virus spreads among mammals, pets need to be monitored in contact with outbreaks
January 30, 2020 10:55 Source: China News Network

(Combating new pneumonia) Li Lanjuan: Virus spreads among mammals, pets need to be monitored for outbreaks

Langzhong News Agency, Beijing, January 30th. Li Lanjuan, a member of the Chinese Academy of Engineering and a member of the high-level expert group of the National Health and Medical Commission, said that the new coronavirus is transmitted between mammals, so mammals need to be prepared. "Owners need to strengthen the management of pets. If pets are exposed to outbreaks and patients, they also need to be monitored."

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I'm seeing 7700 cases confirmed with appx 170 deaths... is that the latest and accurate? That was an hour ago from BBC.

Cassius said:

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I'm seeing 7700 cases confirmed with appx 170 deaths... is that the latest and accurate? That was an hour ago from BBC.

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Don't believe their numbers anymore, they are apparently taking bodies directly to the crematoriums so they won't be reported.

B-1 83 said:

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UTExan said:

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Russia has closed their Far East border with China in an attempt to limit spread of the virus. Putin is a lot more concerned about this than we are.

https://www.rt.com/russia/479567-russia-china-border-coronavirus/

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Maybe because he shares a border. Has he stopped all flights/travel from China?

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I doubt it because rail and airports can more easily monitor travelers. The Far East would have a lot more travelers.

Cassius said:

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I'm seeing 7700 cases confirmed with appx 170 deaths... is that the latest and accurate? That was an hour ago from BBC.

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Maybe if you add a zero to each figure.

Later on in that article it mentioned some video of a Chinese claiming 90,000 have been infected. Has that video made it's way to the translation thread?

ETA: don't think it has

2nd ETA: It's there, in the first post

I saw these numbers on another site, not sure of the accuracies. Also I assume the assumption is nothing changes and just all the awareness has been a huge change. But this does show how quick and scary it could be.

"The trend continues, with a daily rise of 25% on all metrics.

If we extrapolate from this and if the trend of a 1.25 factor per day is maintained, we are looking at
-40.000 confirmed cases in 1 week,
-200.000 in 2 weeks,
-1 million in 3 weeks
-7 millions a month from now
-4 billions (ie 50% of the worldwide population) 2 months from now

Time for containment measures? Only containment measures will slow down the spread IMO, reducing from a factor of 1.25 to a manageable level."

kingj3 said:

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Later on in that article it mentioned some video of a Chinese claiming 90,000 have been infected. Has that video made it's way to the translation thread?

ETA: don't think it has

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It's in the very first post of that thread. Fifth or sixth link.

If that video is right, the number's probably a quarter million or more at this point infected.

hbtheduce said:

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Slowing down the virus saves lives.

50% of the population getting this virus over a 6 month period vs a 1 month period puts an entirely different strain on Hospitals, allows us to learn more to develop good treatment procedures, and puts lets strain on critical services.

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There's a total of about 150K ventilator beds available in the entire U.S.

If the infected count here gets over that, the mortality rate is going to skyrocket.

AG 2000' said:

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hbtheduce said:

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Slowing down the virus saves lives.

50% of the population getting this virus over a 6 month period vs a 1 month period puts an entirely different strain on Hospitals, allows us to learn more to develop good treatment procedures, and puts lets strain on critical services.

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There's a total of about 150K ventilator beds available in the entire U.S.

If the infected count here gets over that, the mortality rate is going to skyrocket.

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If the infected count gets to 150k, it's not a problem as far as bed counts are concerned. This thing isn't sending every infected person to the hospital requiring an ICU room.

Until there's some semblance of rapid person to person transmission in western areas, predictions of a worldwide pandemic with billions infected look a bit ridiculous. You're talking about the collapse of the healthcare system, massive damage to global economy, unraveling of society in many places, Millions dead. Way too premature.

That happens then unless you've been storing food for years with a secure location away from population, no amount of perpetration now will make a dent.

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If it is on the Internet it must be true.

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Let's look at some figures for just China.....7,804 cases
170 deaths
1,370 serious
124 recovered
12,167 suspected

Doesn't look that bad, except it doesn't indicate the exponential growth of cases. Also deaths will lag 7 to 14 days behind number of cases. Check on these statistics on Saturday.

The death rate is not near as high as SARS, but the transmission seems to be greatly higher. So, So far not as deadly but significantly more contagious.

The real problem could be spreading to Laos, Cambodia or India. Highly dense populations with poor hygiene and medical care.

We don't really know the mortality rate yet, as it is triggers pneumonia or acute respiratory conditions which may take many days to become fatal.

That's probably correct.

Agnzona said:

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The death rate is not near as high as SARS, but the transmission seems to be greatly higher. So, So far not as deadly but significantly more contagious.

The real problem could be spreading to Laos, Cambodia or India. Highly dense populations with poor hygiene and medical care.

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Already one confirmed case in India link here.

Saw this on reddit

Edit: British newspaper site says 800 others in India under observation here

Really, to be fair, the figures coming from China are probably all lies. The news organizations that are making these comparisons to SARS have no valid way to do so. The infection rate and the death rate of this disease are probably much, much higher than China is reporting.

FWIW, I don't eat tilapia. At least, not tilapia I didn't get myself from invasive populations. You can net, snag, arrow, or gig them in many reservoirs and creeks in SE Texas.