The LPGA starts its first overseas trek in Feb and mid-Feb to early March starts the Thailand, Singapore, China swing occurs. If this is getting out of control I suspect the tour will cancel those events.

EKUAg said:

---

The LPGA starts its first overseas trek in Feb and mid-Feb to early March starts the Thailand, Singapore, China swing occurs. If this is getting out of control I suspect the tour will cancel those events.

---

Why?

Let them go, and then revoke their ability to return.

Problem solved.

They're just golfers.

Like everyone has already said. This looks like a real deal.

I would use the Chinese factor of 300 to any number.

aezmvp said:

---

TXCityAggie said:

---

The reactions by the Chinese Government sure lead you to believe it's a lot worse than they are admitting. I hope they get this under control. I have a trip to SE Asia planned in a couple of months, and I don't need this thing spreading across the whole region.

---

Yeah shutting down LNE in a bunch of major cities and cutting off between 3-4 cities with a total populations in the tens of millions.... Yeah something is very, very wrong over there.

---

I'll wait until they nuke a city or two before I go full boogaloos.....But yeah its a full court press right now to talk this down. You can see the MSM trying to quell fears by blaming the introduction of the virus on consumption of wild animals (I've seen snakes and bats blamed). Yet the lab is 2-miles from the market where they claim this all started.


Don't panic, that's freaking stupid.....but take precautions when traveling, boost your immune system with vitamins, and wash your freaking hands w soap often.

OP's name checks out. Advice heeded

TacosaurusRex said:

---

I know I am not the only one thinking that the Chinese shouldn't have been allowed to build a level 4 bio lab. It sounds like the Chinese version of Chernobyl, and that it is destined to cause problems (yay! Communism).

Also, I agree that you don't shut off tens of millions of people and cancel a major holiday without something being way worse than what is reported.

---

Absolutely not. But I don't know if we had the power to "allow" or not "allow" them building such a lab. Ourselves and maybe Japan are one of the few would really trust with such. You might assume Europe, but they have too much of an infiltration issue and a terrorist capture seems a risk.

cbr said:

---

There is no info out either. Checked cdc and different search engines. The message is identical across all sources. Its a controlled message.

No way in hell they quarantined 4 cities 30 million people, and spraying **** everywhere over 440 cases/9 deaths.

Come on. They think this one is the real deal.

---

It is either that or they know they let the virus out on their watch.

History shows if it is your fault and you don't take drastic measures, you are hosed.

Haven't seen this posted here yet...

https://www.studyfinds.org/chinese-coronavirus-outbreak-traced-back-to-snakes-study-finds/

Quote:

---

A detailed genetic analysis of the virus was performed, in which it was compared to any available genetic information on other viruses from across the world and the animal kingdom. This work resulted in the conclusion that this new virus first formed due to the combination of a coronavirus strain usually found in bats with another coronavirus strain of largely "unknown origin." The product of this combination was a new virus that featured a mix, or "recombination," of a viral protein that recognizes and binds to host cell receptors. This ability to recognize and bind to host cells is effectively what allows viruses to enter new hosts, leading to infection and disease.

So, while the very beginnings of 2019-nCoV appear to be linked to bats, researchers also found evidence that the coronavirus at some point made its way into snakes before ultimately reaching human patient zero. It was this aforementioned ability to recombine within the viral receptor-binding protein that likely facilitated the virus' cross-species transmission from snakes to humans.

---

jxs40 said:

---

VaultingChemist said:

---

Corona Virus Patent 2015

It is still not confirmed if this virus is responsible for this outbreak, but it sure is looking like the virus might have escaped from the lab.

---

Are you saying the Pirbright Inst. has a lab in Wuhan? Or that somehow a lab in the UK caused an outbreak in China?

---

A prior tweet mentioned this virus. It is just speculation at this point.

unmade bed said:

---

Meh, I prefer Dos Equis

---

Stay healthy my friends.

It started from eating or handling snakes:


https://www.studyfinds.org/chinese-coronavirus-outbreak-traced-back-to-snakes-study-finds/

WestAustinAg said:

---

It started from eating or handling snakes:


https://www.studyfinds.org/chinese-coronavirus-outbreak-traced-back-to-snakes-study-finds/

---

China will find anyone or anything to blame besides their new state of the art level four bio lab in Wuhan letting one out of the bag.

Beijing just cancelled New Years Celebrations!

This might be bad!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/beijing-cancels-events-curb-virus-120920839.html?fbclid=IwAR1DX_lznCYZeKHxim4oxW7OolR18VU0ba5g81mkPfdakSWDAAuSSrk2fjY

Quote:

---

BEIJING, Jan 23 (Reuters) - China's capital city Beijing cancelled major public events including two well-known Lunar New Year temple fairs, the state-run Beijing News said on Thursday, as authorities try to curb the spread of a deadly coronavirus outbreak.

Separately, the country's railway operator, China State Railway Group, said passengers would be able to receive full refunds on tickets nationwide starting on Friday. (Reporting by Tony Munroe; editing by John Stonestreet)

---

scottimus said:

---

Beijing just cancelled New Years Celebrations!

This might be bad!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/beijing-cancels-events-curb-virus-120920839.html?fbclid=IwAR1DX_lznCYZeKHxim4oxW7OolR18VU0ba5g81mkPfdakSWDAAuSSrk2fjY

Quote:

---

BEIJING, Jan 23 (Reuters) - China's capital city Beijing cancelled major public events including two well-known Lunar New Year temple fairs, the state-run Beijing News said on Thursday, as authorities try to curb the spread of a deadly coronavirus outbreak.

Separately, the country's railway operator, China State Railway Group, said passengers would be able to receive full refunds on tickets nationwide starting on Friday. (Reporting by Tony Munroe; editing by John Stonestreet)

---

---

Holy crap. If its that bad, it may be fortunate it is there. Only that government has the draconian power to shut down something as big as Christmas-New Years (which is what is equivalent to). We could not do it to save our lives.

NSA Surveillance Van said:

---

I'd worry about sitting next to/near someone who's actively sneezing everywhere but the cabin air on an aircraft is fairly clean. It is recycled by the pressurization system roughly every 5-10 minutes - you're not just sitting in the same air for 2-4 hours.

---

What about Chinese high-speed trains? If you look close enough you can see the virus waving as the train passes by.

I heard on a news update that flights from China would be funneled to five US airports, at which passenger screening will be done. If I find a link to this I'll add it to my post (or someone else please feel free to post a link).

The State Department has the travel advisory at level 2. They need to raise it to level 4 - do not travel.

BlueMiles said:

---

I heard on a news update that flights from China would be funneled to five US airports, at which passenger screening will be done. If I find a link to this I'll add it to my post (or someone else please feel free to post a link).

---

How many airports have direct flights to China?

Also, that doesn't account for all of the connecting flights, so it's just window dressing.

Amazon already sold out of surgical masks!

(well the cheap general ones...you can still buy a hello kitty one! lol)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-51223111
Four patients in Scotland being tested after showing symptoms of Coronavirus.

BlueMiles said:

---

I heard on a news update that flights from China would be funneled to five US airports, at which passenger screening will be done. If I find a link to this I'll add it to my post (or someone else please feel free to post a link).

---

Quote:

---

American officials set up screening checkpoints at Los Angeles International Airport, New York's John F Kennedy airport and San Francisco International Airport last week.

New checkpoints are being installed at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago and Hartsfield-Jackson airport in Atlanta by the end of this week.

---

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7916223/US-forces-passengers-Wuhan-China-change-flights-screened-coronavirus.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

What needs to be learned is are people being treated recovering. In other words, is it just killing some who get sick, or are most getting it dying --- what is the interval of time? If its the later, it will quickly become something needing martial law on travel. Though how China could do it with land crossing of its borders seems impossible.

What are the odds in a city of 11 million, that one of the 600 cases is an American who makes it back to the States? Especially given he was likely in some of the more sanitary parts of the city.

Seems like actual numbers have got to be a lot worse.

Are there any good blogs or other sites following this in real time?

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

scottimus said:

---

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

---

Last I heard, the incubation period length was not known yet.

scottimus said:

---

Amazon already sold out of surgical masks!

(well the cheap general ones...you can still buy a hello kitty one! lol)

---

And that is how panic begins to enter into the herd.... btw the mask distributors/manufacturers will quickly fill the void. Easy to make and plenty of them in warehouses everywhere around the world. It's just a matter of distribution.


Watch for hand sanitizer sales to sky rocket too.

BlueMiles said:

---

scottimus said:

---

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

---

Last I heard, the incubation period length was not known yet.

---

5-10 days is what I've seen so far.

AG 2000' said:

---

BlueMiles said:

---

scottimus said:

---

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

---

Last I heard, the incubation period length was not known yet.

---

5-10 days is what I've seen so far.

---

What about course of the disease---is there a certain amount of days sick you know going to recover, or sink? Any indicators on that yet.

Anyone know how infectious this is, or what percent of a population would come down with it?

titan said:

---

AG 2000' said:

---

BlueMiles said:

---

scottimus said:

---

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

---

Last I heard, the incubation period length was not known yet.

---

5-10 days is what I've seen so far.

---

What about course of the disease---is there a certain amount of days sick you know going to recover, or sink? Any indicators on that yet.

---

If there are, China and the WHO aren't sharing yet.

AG 2000' said:

---

titan said:

---

AG 2000' said:

---

BlueMiles said:

---

scottimus said:

---

F THAT NOISE

How many Chinese students came back to A&M from the Holidays?

Is there s delay of symptoms on set?

---

Last I heard, the incubation period length was not known yet.

---

5-10 days is what I've seen so far.

---

What about course of the disease---is there a certain amount of days sick you know going to recover, or sink? Any indicators on that yet.

---

If there are, China and the WHO aren't sharing yet.

---

Imagine will learn soon. The Seattle case will be a clear indicator of the recovery interval, if hopefully does.

CDC raises alert level to 3

What are the alert levels? What would 1918 be classed as today?