Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Early in my career I had a contentious meeting at the IRS HQ building in DC regarding equipment installation. I had to give my name and SS# to get in the building. I got audited the next year. Am retired now, and that is the only time I have ever been audited. That was during the Clinton years.
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Maybe they already have all that, and they need Flynn to be free and clear before they can use it, so it will not be tainted evidence.

That would explain Sullivan's delays.
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drcrinum said:



https://www.scribd.com/document/462589017/Flynn-Appeal-Watergate-Prosecutors-Amicus

Former Watergate Special Prosecution Force. I am looking for a word....I think it is 'arrogance'.

It will be interesting to see what the court does with this filing.
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AG 2000' said:

drcrinum said:



Weird Warner is on board for that.

Must be some questionable dialog there that can be spun.
Could also be a bluff. I think the requests for the Mueller GJ were intended to fail, and give a talking point to the Dems. This was tried with the Ukraine call, and Trump blasted that by releasing the transcript.
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VaultingChemist said:


Isn't it pretty well established the Flynn-Kislyak call was an FBI product? Can't Barr lean on Wray to get it out?
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fasthorse05 said:

THIS.

An enterprising soul could easily make a list of various "coincidences" under that administration, and the length would be damning. Many have made fun of this with a comment like "you're gonna get audited", but there's a hell of a lot of truth to that.
The presence of the Treasury Department in the Flynn deal makes your point perfectly.

The Democrat Party has a strong tradition of using Treasury and the IRS to go after political opponents.

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drcrinum said:



https://www.scribd.com/document/462589017/Flynn-Appeal-Watergate-Prosecutors-Amicus

Former Watergate Special Prosecution Force. I am looking for a word....I think it is 'arrogance'.

I'm sure the court will appreciate the "end justifying the means" argument of those who influenced Team Mueller in multiple unethical and illegal ways.

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K188Ag said:

Maybe they already have all that, and they need Flynn to be free and clear before they can use it, so it will not be tainted evidence.

That would explain Sullivan's delays.
It's soooo easy to just audit someone. With our tech situation, we should be able to devise something showing reason for IRS audits---each and every one.

There's plenty of folks on this thread who can tell me if something like that is possible. If you don't use a random pull,, then there's got to be a different method the jackwagons at IRS use.
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Stlkofta said:

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BillYeoman said:

Flynn exposing that information could've been dismissed as "a desperate defendant creating distraction."

However, Flynn providing information to Barr/Durham has more teeth.


But that information would still stand on its own merit, or at least spur an investigation. Barr/Durham can act weather he hands it directly to them or if it comes from someone else. His family has gone through hell. He's broke and his reputation has been destroyed. I think that if he had something it would have come out a long time ago. I know I would have gone down swinging because by the grace of God he barely avoided jail. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't see why he's been the focus of the 0 administration.
Because Flynn was a vociferous and open critic of Obama on several fronts.

Things tended to happen to people who successfully got under Obama's skin. Joe the Plumber asks a question putting Barry on the spot, he gets audited. Atkisson and Rosen get a little too close for comfort regarding Benghazi, they get wiretapped. Republicans dare gather as 501c(3) organizations? Have the IRS hold up their applications and make sure the names of individual contributors get sent to those in a position to cause them a problem.

Flynn received all of that treatment. Only this time, Obama's minions are going to be held accountable for doing Soetoro's dirty work.




With all due respect, do you actually think this will happen? I wish, but don't see that happening at all.
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treston58 said:

Stlkofta said:

PearlJammin said:

BillYeoman said:

Flynn exposing that information could've been dismissed as "a desperate defendant creating distraction."

However, Flynn providing information to Barr/Durham has more teeth.


But that information would still stand on its own merit, or at least spur an investigation. Barr/Durham can act weather he hands it directly to them or if it comes from someone else. His family has gone through hell. He's broke and his reputation has been destroyed. I think that if he had something it would have come out a long time ago. I know I would have gone down swinging because by the grace of God he barely avoided jail. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't see why he's been the focus of the 0 administration.
Because Flynn was a vociferous and open critic of Obama on several fronts.

Things tended to happen to people who successfully got under Obama's skin. Joe the Plumber asks a question putting Barry on the spot, he gets audited. Atkisson and Rosen get a little too close for comfort regarding Benghazi, they get wiretapped. Republicans dare gather as 501c(3) organizations? Have the IRS hold up their applications and make sure the names of individual contributors get sent to those in a position to cause them a problem.

Flynn received all of that treatment. Only this time, Obama's minions are going to be held accountable for doing Soetoro's dirty work.




With all due respect, do you actually think this will happen? I wish, but don't see that happening at all.


I am praying but the corruption that keeps these morons from being held accountable is deep
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treston58 said:

Stlkofta said:

PearlJammin said:

BillYeoman said:

Flynn exposing that information could've been dismissed as "a desperate defendant creating distraction."

However, Flynn providing information to Barr/Durham has more teeth.


But that information would still stand on its own merit, or at least spur an investigation. Barr/Durham can act weather he hands it directly to them or if it comes from someone else. His family has gone through hell. He's broke and his reputation has been destroyed. I think that if he had something it would have come out a long time ago. I know I would have gone down swinging because by the grace of God he barely avoided jail. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't see why he's been the focus of the 0 administration.
Because Flynn was a vociferous and open critic of Obama on several fronts.

Things tended to happen to people who successfully got under Obama's skin. Joe the Plumber asks a question putting Barry on the spot, he gets audited. Atkisson and Rosen get a little too close for comfort regarding Benghazi, they get wiretapped. Republicans dare gather as 501c(3) organizations? Have the IRS hold up their applications and make sure the names of individual contributors get sent to those in a position to cause them a problem.

Flynn received all of that treatment. Only this time, Obama's minions are going to be held accountable for doing Soetoro's dirty work.




With all due respect, do you actually think this will happen? I wish, but don't see that happening at all.
I honestly DO think that some of the minions will fall. How many and how high up is what is up in the air right now.
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VegasAg86 said:

drcrinum said:



https://www.scribd.com/document/462589017/Flynn-Appeal-Watergate-Prosecutors-Amicus

Former Watergate Special Prosecution Force. I am looking for a word....I think it is 'arrogance'.

It will be interesting to see what the court does with this filing.


I am no lawyer but based on their response to the mandamus (sp) I bet they tell them where they can stick it
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treston58 said:

Stlkofta said:

PearlJammin said:

BillYeoman said:

Flynn exposing that information could've been dismissed as "a desperate defendant creating distraction."

However, Flynn providing information to Barr/Durham has more teeth.


But that information would still stand on its own merit, or at least spur an investigation. Barr/Durham can act weather he hands it directly to them or if it comes from someone else. His family has gone through hell. He's broke and his reputation has been destroyed. I think that if he had something it would have come out a long time ago. I know I would have gone down swinging because by the grace of God he barely avoided jail. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't see why he's been the focus of the 0 administration.
Because Flynn was a vociferous and open critic of Obama on several fronts.

Things tended to happen to people who successfully got under Obama's skin. Joe the Plumber asks a question putting Barry on the spot, he gets audited. Atkisson and Rosen get a little too close for comfort regarding Benghazi, they get wiretapped. Republicans dare gather as 501c(3) organizations? Have the IRS hold up their applications and make sure the names of individual contributors get sent to those in a position to cause them a problem.

Flynn received all of that treatment. Only this time, Obama's minions are going to be held accountable for doing Soetoro's dirty work.




With all due respect, do you actually think this will happen? I wish, but don't see that happening at all.
I do this time.

John Durham isn't someone you deploy on a waste of time. John Durham is someone you go to when you need an untouchable to pursue justice.

Got to admit, however, that I've had my doubts in the past. There has been enough bomb-dropping, however, to strengthen my confidence in the team Barr assembled to get to the truth of this matter.



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I hope everyone will be happy with indictments because I think actual convictions will be difficult to achieve. I certainly would love being wrong.
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I DO hope you are all correct.
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I'll settle for ruined careers and left financially broke.
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Whether we end up with convictions or not, the pursuit needs to take place in the most aggressive manner allowed.

These individuals need a much-deserved taste of what Flynn and Trump undeservedly received. You always worry about that one juror who will vote Team Democrat, a judge who attempts to put his weight on the liberal side of the scale, or a prosecution that is as soft as warm butter.

But if the prosecution is as vigorous as I think it will be, then some folks are going to be convicted.

Just the pursuit of justice should be enough to force the future Comeys and Brennans of the world to think twice before they violate their oath of office again.



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Finn said:

I'll settle for ruined careers and left financially broke.
I am concerned there will be a Soros slush fund to cover the finances somehow.
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K188Ag said:

Finn said:

I'll settle for ruined careers and left financially broke.
I am concerned there will be a Soros slush fund to cover the finances somehow.

or careers at CNN and MSNBC.
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Stlkofta said:

But if the prosecution is as vigorous as I think it will be, then some folks are going to be convicted.

Just the pursuit of justice should be enough to force the future Comeys and Brennans of the world to think twice before they violate their oath of office again.
No only convicted but financially ruined. These scumbags hiding behind their governmental protective cloak need to reap what they sow.
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akm91 said:

Stlkofta said:

But if the prosecution is as vigorous as I think it will be, then some folks are going to be convicted.

Just the pursuit of justice should be enough to force the future Comeys and Brennans of the world to think twice before they violate their oath of office again.
No only convicted but financially ruined. These scumbags hiding behind their governmental protective cloak need to reap what they sow.

If that ends up happening, then so be it.



I would love to see Super Patriot get taken to the cleaners before he commences his new employment making Federal license plates.


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Quote:

Graham is seeking testimony from former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and others.

The subpoena authorizations would also cover any documents, communications and testimony "related to any aforementioned matter" from current and former officials, including Trisha Anderson, James Baker, Dana Boenta, Mary McCord, Andrew McCabe, Loretta Lynch, Jonathan Moffa, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Joseph Pientka, John Podesta, Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Rod Rosenstein, Bill Priestap, and Sally Yates among others.
LINK

Among that group, there's a weak link somewhere who will seek immunity. I'm just wondering if anyone takes the 5th. (Assuming Graham wins the vote in committee.)
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I would be happy with a White Water turn out where all of the beauracrats do time and the politicians have permanent stain on their record.
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Quote:

Graham is seeking testimony from former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and others.

The subpoena authorizations would also cover any documents, communications and testimony "related to any aforementioned matter" from current and former officials, including Trisha Anderson, James Baker, Dana Boenta, Mary McCord, Andrew McCabe, Loretta Lynch, Jonathan Moffa, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Joseph Pientka, John Podesta, Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Rod Rosenstein, Bill Priestap, and Sally Yates among others.
LINK

Among that group, there's a weak link somewhere who will seek immunity. I'm just wondering if anyone takes the 5th. (Assuming Graham wins the vote in committee.)
Joseph Pientka?

Why not call the Loch Ness Monster or a Yeti? I mean, does he really exist?
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I'm pretty sure it was a CIA or 5E product As Flynn was on vacation in the DR.
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akm91 said:

Stlkofta said:

But if the prosecution is as vigorous as I think it will be, then some folks are going to be convicted.

Just the pursuit of justice should be enough to force the future Comeys and Brennans of the world to think twice before they violate their oath of office again.
No only convicted but financially ruined. These scumbags hiding behind their governmental protective cloak need to reap what they sow.

As tempting as this is, and as despicable as these people are, I believe that the threat of being financially ruined because of the cost of defending yourself needs to stop being used as a weapon by the government.

That concern is at the heart of why Gen. Flynn plead guilty to a false charge in the first place (as it relates to knowingly false prosecution of his son).

I don't know how to fix it, but the government's ability to not only use it's full weight and power against you but to also cause you to go broke in the process regardless of the outcome (meaning even if you win you lose) is a really scary thing.
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3 Toed Pete said:

aggiehawg said:

Quote:

Graham is seeking testimony from former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and others.

The subpoena authorizations would also cover any documents, communications and testimony "related to any aforementioned matter" from current and former officials, including Trisha Anderson, James Baker, Dana Boenta, Mary McCord, Andrew McCabe, Loretta Lynch, Jonathan Moffa, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Joseph Pientka, John Podesta, Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Rod Rosenstein, Bill Priestap, and Sally Yates among others.
LINK

Among that group, there's a weak link somewhere who will seek immunity. I'm just wondering if anyone takes the 5th. (Assuming Graham wins the vote in committee.)
Joseph Pientka?

Why not call the Loch Ness Monster or a Yeti? I mean, does he really exist?
Flight aware shows the Swagcopter en route to San Francisco to pick him up.
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Quote:

Joseph Pientka?

Why not call the Loch Ness Monster or a Yeti? I mean, does he really exist?
Last I heard he was in the San Francisco FBI field office.
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We might already know this, but Sidney Powell has all of General Flynn's filings on her website...

https://sidneypowell.com/the-michael-t-flynn-case/?mc_cid=89100aa2d5&mc_eid=9b55212020
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No i didn't mean the same tactics they went about ruining Flynn but making sure they're personally liable for civil damages for all the actions they took in this farce.
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If Sidney is saying it, you can probably bet it is true.

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will25u said:

If Sidney is saying it, you can probably bet it is true.

It certainly seems like she has some knowledgeable people feeding her information.
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akm91 said:

No i didn't mean the same tactics they went about ruining Flynn but making sure they're personally liable for civil damages for all the actions they took in this farce.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And yes, this I agree with. Suing them out of existence is just fine.
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VegasAg86 said:

will25u said:

If Sidney is saying it, you can probably bet it is true.

It certainly seems like she has some knowledgeable people feeding her information.
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