Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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This is another video that lends support to this crazy thread that I've become obsessed with trying to piece together anything that goes along with this biggest scandal in US history.


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This thread is the most legendary thread in the history of the politics board. Without question.
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Thanks for posting that. Had somehow missed it before.

As an active participant in this thread over the years, really brought back memories as to how this whole thing unraveled.

My main takeaway was that Kash said at least six people were illegally surveilled which I had long suspected that Flynn had been under Title I FISA warrant. That it wasn't just an incidental capture of his conversation with Lavrov because Lavrov was under surveillance as a Russian diplomatic national. That part was just a fig leaf to explain how they knew about it.

Aaaannnd, Mueller, et.al are still each a POS.

ETA: Made a mistake about which Russian diplomat was talking with Flynn, it was Kislyak, not Lavrov.
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aggiehawg said:


As an active participant in this thread over the years, really brought back memories as to how this whole thing unraveled.

You are far too humble, Mrs. Hawg.

You (and maybe 2 or 3 other posters) were the primary contributors and brains of this thread! Your insight is what made this thread digestible for the rest of us non-lawyer types! I am sincerely grateful for you.

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Aaaannnd, Mueller, et.al are still each a POS.
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aggiehawg said:

Thanks for posting that. Had somehow missed it before.

As an active participant in this thread over the years, really brought back memories as to how this whole thing unraveled.

My main takeaway was that Kash said at least six people were illegally surveilled which I had long suspected that Flynn had been under Title I FISA warrant. That it wasn't just an incidental capture of his conversation with Lavrov because Lavrov was under surveillance as a Russian diplomatic national. That part was just a fig leaf to explain how they knew about it.

Aaaannnd, Mueller, et.al are still each a POS.



Ms Hawg since you turned me on to this thread I have been down more rabbit holes than I can count and amassed enough to make an attempt at a manuscript that may possibly rival Tom Clancy or Lee Smith. I have more videos archived from Epoch Times with interviews of Devin Nunes and Sidney Powell who by the way I feel got a bad wrap when she got caught up with that looney tunes Lin Wood, and the fall out from that nonsense. From what I can tell she is actually a solid attorney in her handling of Flynn, not to mention her work in the Enron scandal. I think her love of expensive wine and the charismatic BS of Lin Wood affected her compass and when the DOJ came after everyone in the Georgia deal she took the easy way out because she knew she didn't have the money to fight the machine that was coming after Trump. IMHO she got a bad wrap in the end


But this Thread you and many others have put together is beyond legendary as far as I'm concerned and it's the reason I continue to bump it to keep it active
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So Mark Twain, All you need is a good nom de plume when you publish the manuscript…
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Sidney was solid when she finally joined Flynn's defense. She just had a lousy judge in Sullivan. And Sullivan himself had a pretty solid rep as a strict judge who played it fair before the Flynn case. TDS got to him too and ruined his rep, IMO. And as a semi-retired judge, he still is treating Jan 6ers like s*** due to his TDS.

The only explanation I can come up with for Sidney went sideways after the 2020 election was the time constraints coupled with the vomitous mass of information being dumped on her.

Yeah there were many rabbit holes (went down many of them myself) but the sheer amount of election fraud was just that overwhelming, she lost her focus. Guiliani was of little help and Lin Woods was a disaster. But it is ironic that one of the best examples of Dominion being a crappy company was the one for which she was indicted in Georgia. Coffee County after the Senate runoff. Having problems with their tabulators rejecting ballots, only for the Republican candidates, and a Dominion tech fixed it just by holding his cell phone next to the machines. Altered the software and magically the ballots were not longer being rejected. The election workers present who observed that happen, called Sidney in.
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An excellent interview with Sydney

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I listened to the Flynn hearings before the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. Those judges threw Sidney for a loop at first because they were asking looney tune type questions having little to no bearing on the case. And then that court finally told Sullivan to back off and dismiss the case but Sullivan gave them the middle finger.

That's how far off of the rails Sullivan went. Effectively told his superior court to eff off...twice...to a writ of mandamus! Just never happens.
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This is another video that lends support to this crazy thread that I've become obsessed with trying to piece together anything that goes along with this biggest scandal in US history.
When I first read this, I disagreed and the plandemic came to mind.

But then I had to remind myself, it's all connected...
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When I first read this, I disagreed and the plandemic came to mind.

But then I had to remind myself, it's all connected...
As I often said in this thread, when the same pigs are still squealing all these years later, you betcha it is all connected.
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Faithful Ag said:

This thread is the most legendary thread in the history of the politics board. Without question.
You're correct but the Q thread was pretty entertaining as well.

But no doubt, this is the most epic thread in F16 history.
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Tailgate88 said:

Faithful Ag said:

This thread is the most legendary thread in the history of the politics board. Without question.
You're correct but the Q thread was pretty entertaining as well.

But no doubt, this is the most epic thread in F16 history.
One of the biggest political scandals in modern history. It unfolded in drips and drabs, then a flash flood, with Comey's firing, his memos being released to the press, Rod Rosenstein is Acting AG, quickly appoints Mueller as Special Counsel. The Page/Strozk texts are leaked. Then it was off to the races.
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Real Clear Investigations (older piece): Days after Comey fired, McCabe re-engaged with discredited/non-trustworthy Chris Steele to target Trump.
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Two days after then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe formally put President Trump under criminal investigation in May 2017, bureau officials reached out to the author of the controversial "Steele dossier" for more information, even though they had fired him for misconduct six months earlier.

Text messages and congressional testimony transcripts reveal that McCabe's "Russia team" re-established direct contact with ex-British spy Christopher Steele to build a case against the president for espionage and obstruction of justice after Trump had fired FBI Director James Comey on May 9, 2017.

Comey had previously described the dossier opposition research alleging Trump-Russia ties that was paid for by the Clinton campaign as "salacious and unverified." The FBI had severed ties with Steele in November 2016 due to behavior that convinced his handlers he was not a trustworthy source.

Former federal prosecutors and investigators described the move to RealClearInvestigations as "desperate." They also said the FBI's decision to suddenly re-engage with a discredited confidential source raises fresh questions about the evidentiary grounds on which the FBI opened an unprecedented probe targeting the president.

"It suggests that McCabe lacked evidence to make an espionage case against Trump and was desperate to find it even if that meant going back to the same unreliable source of still-unverified dossier dirt," former federal prosecutor Solomon L. Wisenberg said.

While noting that there are not only Justice Department rules but also federal laws against opening groundless investigations, they warned that if the nation's top police force can investigate and spy on a president without hard evidence of criminal behavior, they can do it to anyone. "It's pretty clear that Comey's firing is what prompted McCabe's fury," Wisenberg said.

McCabe, who ran the FBI after the president fired Comey, maintains he had sufficient grounds to authorize two investigations of the president himself including whether he was personally acting on behalf of the Russian government and whether he was impeding the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
In a series of recent television interviews promoting his new book, "The Threat," McCabe said his decision to investigate Trump as a Russian asset was based on public information, not secret intelligence or any smoking-gun evidence tying Trump to the Kremlin.

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An irony is that McCabe was later fired for much the same offenses as Steele's: leaking and lying about it. Steele was dismissed Nov. 1, 2016 for unauthorized disclosures to the media, including Mother Jones and Yahoo News, and found to have concealed and lied to the FBI about them. Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe last March after the Justice Department's inspector general found he had repeatedly lied under oath to investigators about leaking information to the press regarding the ongoing Clinton Foundation case.

McCabe, now under federal criminal investigation for those alleged offenses, has insisted he made the decision to investigate the president based on facts, not politics, and that Rosenstein and the Justice Department accepted his reasons for commencing an investigation.
Paul Sperry re-tweeted that 2019 piece today, I believe because the factual basis was redacted in the just-released (by our lovely FBI) document below:

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Russiagate news: in response to my FOIA request, the FBI has released a heavily redacted copy of the Electronic Communication that opened the FBI's investigation of then-President Donald Trump as a foreign agent of Russia. It's dated May 16, 2017.

This followed the opening of "Crossfire Hurricane" in July 2016, which targeted members of Trump's campaign. This May 2017 investigation also sought to determine whether Trump "obstructed" that July 2016 investigation and any other "associated" one.

I was most interested to learn the factual basis for the FBI taking the extraordinary step, to put it mildly, of investigating the sitting president as an agent of Russia. But that part is entirely redacted. The document is six pages in total.

Hopefully Trump (and/or Kash) finally orders and gets full disclosure of this crap.
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The rest:
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The security of the United States is the responsibility of POTUS, and NO ONE in the Exec. Branch has the lawful authority to investigate that question.

Saying otherwise would vest power in Exec. branch unelected officials from some unknown and unidentifiable source -- it cannot come from POTUS.

So the authority the FBI claimed for itself in this act was extra-constitutional and an unlawful abuse of its law enforcement powers.
That is a restatement of classic principal and agency law. The DOJ and FBI can only have authority delegated to them through the Executive, meaning POTUS. Not the other way around.
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In other words carte blanche.

Wild times we living in.
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will25u said:


Theoretical question: Assume that you had a President that was actively a traitor, say conspiring with the Nazis (in before "Godwin's Law") by giving them our strategic and tactical plans.

Is there no one in the government who can investigate that?

If the answer is Congress, it would not seem to have the same level of timely investigatory resources.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:



In other words carte blanche.

Wild times we living in.
Was watching an older speech by Sidney Powell at Hillsdale College from four years ago. This was part of the set-up of Trump by Comey on February 14, 2017. The claim of "obstruction" by Trump went back to Michael Flynn. Trump said something like "Flynn is a great guy. Hope everything turns out well for him."

In fact, Flynn had been pretty much cleared days before and Comey knew that but didn't tell Trump.

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Directly about this Mueller investigation

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Throughout this thread Jeff Carlson is sourced on more findings than I can count. Great interview with him

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Did you ever see this information about the voting machines in Georgia?



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Yes, I was all over that in the Election Day thread.

Side note: Judge Totenberg held hearings in early January 2023 in the same case. Dr. Halderman hacked into the Dominion System right in front of her, within a few minutes, only using a ball point pen.
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A deep investigation into Raffensberger's dealings needs too happen..
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Is Totenberg incompetent, corrupt, or both?

ETA Totenberg is a Harvard Law graduate. She has a sister who is a corespondent for NPR.
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VaultingChemist said:

Is Totenberg incompetent, corrupt, or both?
More afraid, I think. I have read all of her opinions in the Curling v. Raffensperger case, some multiple times including her 147 page opinion in October 2020. She's more than competent in her analysis and quite thorough, from what I have seen. She found that Dominion's executives were not credible (they lied) and that Dominion was a very insecure and easily hacked voting system.

BUT like always, she had an off-ramp wherein she could punt and took it. Then she sealed the full Halderman report for a year or so in the interest of national security.

Maybe she was bribed by Dominion and cohorts but I don't think so. That's why I think she was ultimately just too cowardly to take the appropriate actions at the appropriate times and let it go on for much too long. Kicking the can down the road until it really fell off of the radar and rendered moot by subsequent elections.

Aah, the benefits of lifetime appointments.
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Imagine that Halderman demonstrated how easily someone could hack into the Federal Reserve Bank, and transfer millions of dollars with no detectable trail. I would think that she would have taken action to prevent that.

However, elections enable political parties to allocate billions of dollars, and she does nothing to properly safeguard the elections; even when confronted with provable vulnerabilities.

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RGLAG85 said:

A deep investigation into Raffensberger's dealings needs too happen..
And his henchman, Gabe Sterling. it was Sterling who was doing the real dirty work in 2020, the GA Senate runoff in Jan 2021 and 2022 midterms. In that last one, he made sure Raffensperger and Kemp were reelected with very large majorities, approaching 60%. A very rare margin of victory in the recent past of gubernatorial elections in Georgia.
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They had nothing, and want to hide that until it cannot be hidden any longer.
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Details about the FBI's motivation can be gleaned, however, from other public disclosures.
According to a January 2019 account in the New York Times, which first revealed the FBI's decision to investigate Trump, the Steele dossier a collection of conspiracy theories funded by Trump's rival, Hillary Clinton was among the "factors" that "fueled the F.B.I.'s concerns."

Just two days before McCabe opened the May 2017 probe, the FBI, via Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, renewed contact with dossier author Christopher Steele despite having terminated him as a source back in November 2016. As RCI's Paul Sperry has previously reported, this sudden outreach to Steele right before the opening of a new Trump-Russia conspiracy investigation indicated that the FBI was seeking to re-engage the Clinton-funded British operative to help it build a case against the president for espionage and obstruction of justice. At the time, the FBI was still relying on Steele's fabrications for its surveillance warrants against Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page. The following month, the FBI filed the last of its four FISA court warrants based on Steele's material. The Justice Department has since invalidated two of those warrants on the grounds that they were based on "material misstatements."

The FBI re-enlisted Steele despite possessing information that thoroughly discredited him. Five months before it newly sought Steele's help to investigate the sitting president, the FBI interviewed Igor Danchenko, whom Steele had used as his dossier's key "sub-source." In that January 2017 meeting, Danchenko told FBI agents that corroboration for the dossier's claims was "zero"; that he had "no idea" where claims sourced to him came from; and that the Russia-Trump rumors he passed along to Steele came from alcohol-fueled "word of mouth and hearsay." The FBI had also been unable to corroborate any of Steele's incendiary claims.

A previously disclosed document also shows that former CIA Director John Brennan who insistently advanced the Trump/Russia conspiracy theory informed then-president Barack Obama in July 2016 that the Clinton campaign was planning to tie Trump to Russia in order to distract attention from the controversy over Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state. By that point, the Clinton campaign was already paying for the fabricated reports produced by Steele, who made contact with the FBI as early as July 5.
It was a set up. No more reason to classify/hide this stuff in reality than there is to hide JFK files at this point. It's all 8+ years old, and was faked to begin with.
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