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Probably because Rotten Tomatoes are not approving negative reviews for The Odyssey. Remember The Woman King? The audience's score is always at 99% even though there are a lot of negative reviews for this movie.

Here's the audience's score from Metacritic btw. https://t.co/wt7vy0rG8b pic.twitter.com/jWhPcn7AIf

— No room for wokeness! (@Wokenessisevil) July 17, 2026

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How many of those negative audience scores are from people who have seen the movie?

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So have the ridiculous 100 pages before, 10+ of which were your responsibility.

But plenty of us can…you know…say we've freaking seen it.

Which your obnoxious 300+ posting ass can't.

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It's obvious that Ellen Page gave him the tingly sensation and now he's still struggling with that concept with Elliot Page.

All of them. There's two audience scores. The verified scores are those that have their tickets linked to their email through Fandango. If you click on the all audience scores, it does go down. It's currently at 93%.

There were a **** ton of Gen Z men at my screening. Sold out at 3:40pm on Friday

Saw it yesterday. I think its biggest problem is just being long winded. Some scenes could've been cut down.

I think the movie is really fun as a cinematic experience. The casting doesn't generate a significant problem for me. I didn't love it but I wasn't gonna let that consume
My thoughts on the movie.

Overall, it was a big epic movie and one that was worth seeing. One of those experiences that justify going to a theater. 7/10 for me overall.

Rottten Tomatoes is the wikepdia of Entertainment hth

Saxsoon said:

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For those of you who refuse to watch it, Ben Shapiro said this is a 8.5 to 9 and he loves it.

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so now Ben Shapiro is to be trusted and held up as valued reference. I have seen it all. lmao

100+ pages and I still don't understand the argument that you actually have to see a movie before you can have an opinion on it.

Don't get me started on GoodReads. That's a separate thread. It might be worse than Rotten Tomatoes from a different angle. I use it to track books because I have a lot of time equity in it, but it's been David Burg'ed like so many other things

Saxsoon said:

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There were a **** ton of Gen Z men at my screening. Sold out at 3:40pm on Friday

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My showing was probably 70/30 men. LOTS of male friend groups in their 20s-40s. My wife was the only woman in our row.

JimJonesAg11 said:

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Saxsoon said:

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For those of you who refuse to watch it, Ben Shapiro said this is a 8.5 to 9 and he loves it.

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so now Ben Shapiro is to be trusted and held up as valued reference. I have seen it all. lmao

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That's not the point, the point is he's one of the several who predicted it would suck because it was too woke who have now walked that back after seeing the movie.

People generally speaking won't admit they are wrong publicly, so it's a relevant data point when they do regardless of how you feel about the person otherwise. If the movie were even average you'd have guys like that holding the line to save face.

But also, for all his faults Shapiro actually has great taste in movies and gives very solid and deep reviews of them.

IMDB rating is out: 8.3

Seems about right compared to his other films and based on what I'm seeing. We are going to the 1130 matinee today. #old

I look forward to providing my unbiased review on this thread. So, just a PSA for that: you will not need to start F5ing the thread for my review until later this afternoon. It will take me some time to gather my thoughts post film.

YouBet said:

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IMDB rating is out: 8.3

Seems about right compared to his other films and based on what I'm seeing. We are going to the 1130 matinee today. #old

I look forward to providing my unbiased review on this thread. So, just a PSA for that: you will not need to start F5ing the thread for my review until later this afternoon. It will take me some time to gather my thoughts post film.

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cant wait!

I was “black” when I read The Odyssey in high school...

...but somehow I never imagined the characters as looking like me.

Why?

Because they were GREEK characters.

I didn’t need Odysseus to look like me to appreciate his story.

I didn’t need Helen of Troy to look like me to… pic.twitter.com/CDFfIl5Uzk

— Byl Holte (@SirBylHolte) July 18, 2026

I saw it yesterday, as well. My wife is an English teacher at a local high school and she really wanted to see it. I got dragged along. First thought is the director/producer pulled in actors that would likely get him Academy Award nominations. Wife says films now must have LGBTQ+ actors to even get considered. Director wasn't trying to make an historically accurate film of the legend, he's trying to get a nomination.

Miscast characters were few and far between. Those actors made their parts somewhat of a joke, in my mind. As in many movie recreations of legends, this movie didn't quite hold true. Seems everybody needs to put their own spin on the classics.

In a theater that had seating for 200+, there were 16 viewers. Yes, I counted. Wife thinks Tom Holland is the next great actor. I don't see it.

Wife gives it a C+. I give it a C-. Would I see it again? No way. Had to down a few margs at Las Cucos afterwards to make the trip worthwhile.

Your wife is wrong about needing to have LGBTQ for academy awards.

After seeing the movie, I don't think he is going for representation as this tweet suggests.

Instead I think he is going for it in regards to the themes of the movie applying to our western culture today. I can't really elaborate without spoiling the way he takes the story and brings it into our current context, but I think he cast a wide swath of actors from various races/backgrounds purposefully to show those themes applying to us all and not just to WASPS.

Now you can disagree with that as a tool or think that is being too heavy handed or whatever, but in context of the movie, I think that's what he is going for.

Nolan's own words are that he wanted to make a modern interpretation of The Odyssey. Thus, basic English being used and a diverse cast regardless of cultural authenticity. It's really as simple as that.

Almost all of the reviews I've read here and other places online say the movie is not woke (even conservative reviewers). So, I think we can dismiss that argument as Nolan's motivation. And the motivation behind his choice in actors, IMO, belongs on a different thread devoted to overall hollywood trends.

It sounds like the discussion on this movie should shift to whether you disagree or agree with Nolan's interpretation of the story - what he sees as the character motivations, and the overall moral or lesson of the story.

And of course there's the usual type of movie discussion on the techical aspects and actor performances.

Bruce Almighty said:

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Your wife is wrong about needing to have LGBTQ for academy awards.

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Yeah but it probably doesn't hurt right? It's pretty clear that's why it was done even if there are examples like Oppenheimer that didn't cast a bunch of DEI hires.

The metacritic user score keeps going down. Hmm….

Last years best picture nominees included F1, Frankenstein and Train Dreams, all of which had straight, white characters.

Thunderstruck xx said:

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Bruce Almighty said:

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Your wife is wrong about needing to have LGBTQ for academy awards.

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Yeah but it probably doesn't hurt right? It's pretty clear that's why it was done even if there are examples like Oppenheimer that didn't cast a bunch of DEI hires.

The metacritic user score keeps going down. Hmm….

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Go to metacritic and click on the profiles of the people who gave it zero stars. What you'll find is the vast majority have never rated a movie before. Metacritic is being infiltrated by nutjobs and bots.

Guys,
Y'all need to remember that Hollywood rules for Best Picture must meet 2 of the 4 criteria. 2 of those criteria can be met with behind the scenes check boxes. It doesn't have to be in the film itself. Oppenheimer checked the boxes behind the cameras.

If Nolan cares about Best Picture with this (don't know if he does), he could have still qualified behind the camera.

Once a movie becomes political, I'll never trust audience scores.

Bruce Almighty said:

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Once a movie becomes political, I'll never trust audience scores.

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Pretty much. It looks like Metacritic is now compromised just like RT. 4.9 is just too far off the mean to be real.

That leaves IMDB for me as the remaining legitimate source.

Way too many post to go through. I took my boys who both read book and we all loved it. Paige was terribly miscast but her role wasn't that big. And Hathaway was really good. Tom holland was better than expected. Moved fast and we really enjoyed it. Not woke at all besides Paige miscast.

Side note. The other mommy trailer scared the crap out of everyone. Never been jumped scared like that on trailer.

Bruce Almighty said:

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Once a movie becomes political, I'll never trust audience scores.

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Yeah but either way, I never trust critic scores. They always have an agenda.

Excited to see it this week. Hollywood doesn't really make epics anymore. Every movie is two and a half hours long, but that's just to fit in 60 minutes of car chase, fights, or explosions. Hopefully there's still some room for a real epic in the Lawrence of Arabia, Ghandi, Patton, or Doctor Zhivago variety on occasion.

YouBet said:

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Bruce Almighty said:

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Once a movie becomes political, I'll never trust audience scores.

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Pretty much. It looks like Metacritic is now compromised just like RT. 4.9 is just too far off the mean to be real.

That leaves IMDB for me as the remaining legitimate source.

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I know these sites had decent intentions, but

If something has a score, then it's a sport

If it's a sport it has teams

In 2026 America everyone has to either be red team or blue team.

Thunderstruck xx said:

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Bruce Almighty said:

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Your wife is wrong about needing to have LGBTQ for academy awards.

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Yeah but it probably doesn't hurt right? It's pretty clear that's why it was done even if there are examples like Oppenheimer that didn't cast a bunch of DEI hires.

The metacritic user score keeps going down. Hmm….

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Every Best Picture winner in the Academy's 98-year history would still qualify under the CURRENT Academy diversity requirements. Every. Single. One. That's how lax/arbitrary the rules are. So, no, Nolan's casting choices had nothing to do with that. Not even remotely.

Also, as many have now said, the Meteoritic user scores are clearly "compromised," seeing as no verification is required for voting. Notice how it's the only scoring system with a low user rating for The Odyssey, when all the others are way higher? Hmmm, I wonder why that is...

It's now likely going to surpass even the highest opening weekend tracking numbers, blowing away all expectations. When something like this happens, as mentioned below, it's almost always due to word of mouth. Meaning audiences are enjoying this thing so much they're telling people they know to go see it, people are seeing the reactions/scores/numbers and deciding last-minute to go see it, etc. Literally the exact opposite, in the most extreme, of what all the haters/chuds said would happen...

Massive day for @odysseymovie and now on track for a potential $125m-$130m domestic weekend. Another surefire Oscar contender for @UniversalPics. $1b global total all but locked up and now how high can it go. $1.2b? More? Stay tuned..... pic.twitter.com/CE33MOAMxQ

— EmpireCity Box Office (@EmpireCityBO) July 18, 2026

Looks like $34M+ FRI for #TheOdyssey, giving it $51M+ opening day. WOM as close to A+ as it can get, especially for the genre.

Weekend could fly to $125M and then $400M+ final. That “+” could do heavy lifting there. pic.twitter.com/obtDSH7bRS

— ਜਤਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ (@Itsjat32) July 18, 2026

Absurd momentum in SAT pre-sales for #TheOdyssey. Should surely be $40M+. If not for the World Cup final on Sunday, this was certainly going $130M+ weekend, may be it still will.

The last I recall this happening was during Inside Out 2. pic.twitter.com/Izwlc7ibtU

— ਜਤਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ (@Itsjat32) July 18, 2026

Do they ever account for ticket prices/inflation? Not that I care more just curious.

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Wife says films now must have LGBTQ+ actors to even get considered. Director wasn't trying to make an historically accurate film of the legend, he's trying to get a nomination.

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There's no way to determine this, by the way. There's *not* some office in LA you go down to and submit some paperwork saying "I identify as LGBTQ+". Sure, we all know this about Page, as they used to appear in films as female. But in general, that's not something that is logged, or official.

To that end, my parents, one of my sisters and her husband all saw it last night and loved it. Called me afterwards asking if I'd seen it yet (not yet - tonight, finally). Even my ultra-conservative, oil man dad was raving about it. They were stoked.

The only Odyssey adaptation I will recognize.