The writers have killed these scripts and Farrell and Milioti are killing their performances.

PatAg said:

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I wonder if he could have done this show without the fatsuit. Would the accent, mannerisms, and makeup alone played?

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Fat penguin or we'd riot.

AgfromHOU said:

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I prefer what they did, but it could work. The Gotham version of Penguin was pretty popular among the Batman/DC fan base

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You mean the skinny penguin that had a gay fling with Riddler?

That show was pathetic, and I hope it's wiped from Batman lore for all times

ScottishFire said:

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PatAg said:

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I wonder if he could have done this show without the fatsuit. Would the accent, mannerisms, and makeup alone played?

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Fat penguin or we'd riot.

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This.

Penguin needs to be fat and kinda gross looking, think they've done a fantastic job with CF. I wouldn't be able to watch it with normal in shape CF.

Penguins are fat and waddley. The Penguin should be fat and waddley.

Milioti straight killin it. Sheesh

Show's direction just keeps getting better.

Hell, now I'm rooting for Sofia! I don't know who to label the "hero" of this show, and I love it, lol.

That was a fantastic episode.

What a performance. The Arkham shock sequence was so well done and jarring.

Incredible episode. This show continues to get better and better.

This was Milioti's Emmy episode. Both her and Farrell are frontrunners right now IMO.

I don't know if a show has ever made bad characters so sympathetic other than Breaking Bad. (Haven't seen Sopranos)

But man, you felt like you were in Arkham right along with her.

Game changer of an ending. Can't wait to see where it goes from here.

The vibes I'm getting are very Breaking Bad and Ozark, where the walls seem to be closing in for our characters, only for them to make massive game-changing moves.

Best show on TV right now.

I absolutely love how they turned Falcone's sick kink in The Batman - strangling Annika, Selina's mother, and then Selina herself (before Batman saved her) - into an entire thread/backstory for this show, one that completely changed our opinion of Sofia and her plight. That was so damn good and yeah, I'm now somehow "rooting" for her more than even Oz. By season's end, I originally assumed Oz would "win" and be the sole boss left - and that may still be the case - but now I'm going be disappointed if Sofia isn't in The Batman Part II as well. For the time being, though, we're exactly halfway through the season, the backstories have been revealed, all cards are on the table, the sides are chosen, and I can't wait to see where everything goes from here.

Man, what an episode. Great performance by Cristin Milioti.

cajunaggie08 said:

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Was that the straw that broke the camels back for her in realizing no one is on her side?

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The entire episode was basically to show that this was the reason.

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cajunaggie08 said:

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So why did she wait until after Oz left her for dead to kill off her family? Was that the straw that broke the camels back for her in realizing no one is on her side? Or was this just the first opportunity she had since her uncle backed her into a corner by saying she had 48 hours to leave town.

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I feel like her conversation with Rush was her lightbulb moment, you can see it as she lights up about a fresh start.

Damn, this episode rocked! Speaking of rocked, Sofia was rocking that yellow dress, damn she looked good.

My only question is how did Johnny survive the gas? She seemed to expect him to be awake and not dead but how on earth could she know the level of gas that would permeate each room? Did she close off the vents?

Also, she took a big risk that the kid doesn't wake up and go back in the house to either die herself or wake up her parents who might figure out something is up and flee.

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They made a point of her opening the window in that bedroom before the chocolate cake scene with the kid, so I'm thinking the open window is the explanation.

She opened the window. In general there is quite a bit of belief suspension needed for how she did this one overall, but still a good story. Really enjoying the season

Id think for most people watching the show, opening the window was enough to understand that she intended for him to live and everyone else die.

PatAg said:

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Id think for most people watching the show, opening the window was enough to understand that she intended for him to live and everyone else die.

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Who wouldn't close a randomly opened window before going to bed though?

That's pretty much what 75% of the story has been about for the first 3 episodes, leading to the moment at the end of episode 3/beginning of episode 4, where the rebuilt trust was shattered (for good I assume).

CC09LawAg said:

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Maybe. It just seems like she has a vendetta against everyone involved but somehow she's willing to forgive Oz when he was really the one that caused it all for her.

Like I said, if when he was her driver he protected her from an assault or kidnapping or something, saved her life, etc. and they had that kind of bonding moment, I could see how she'd be torn between hating him vs. forgiving him.

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IMO, she had a lot of hate and anger towards everyone, but the vendetta didn't materialize until after Oz double-crossed her with the Maroni's.