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Great to see this getting more publicity.

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Luna and Burchett represent two of the most CIA / contractor heavy areas in the country.

They're being fed by insiders wanting disclosure.
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What's curious is that the Virginia CIA Democrats are being quiet.
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I cannot believe people still think that's real.
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redline248 said:

I cannot believe people still think that's real.

I haven't been following this closely, but wasn't wreckage from that plane ultimately recovered? How does that conform with the theory that it was hijacked by aliens?
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redline248 said:

I cannot believe people still think that's real.


Will someone eventually prove the videos to be fake? Quite possibly. But if one took the time to actually examine the vast amount of evidence, it's easily one of the most compelling UAP videos (or pair of videos, rather) we've ever seen. Is the case air tight? Of course not. But there are certain things that a hoaxer simply couldn't have known, and the skill required to create the videos, especially in 2014, is on, if not above, the level of a Hollywood VFX professional (for myriad reasons, having to do not only with skill, but a deep knowledge of satellites, drones, and physics as well). At the very least, the snickering about them isn't warranted. If hoaxed, they'd almost have to be hoaxed by either the government, or someone with government ties.
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LawHall88 said:

redline248 said:

I cannot believe people still think that's real.

I haven't been following this closely, but wasn't wreckage from that plane ultimately recovered? How does that conform with the theory that it was hijacked by aliens?


There's only been one, significant piece of debris found, and conveniently, the unique/identifying serial number that would have tied it directly to MH370 was missing. There was also apparently some kind of sea growth on it that couldn't have accumulated since 2014. Most of the other pieces of debris are just small, random plane pieces that *could* be from MH370, but aren't confirmed to be, and are mostly from one dubious Russian collector. There's also the possibility that pieces of the plane fell off before it was "zapped" (if, indeed, the videos are real) due to the mechanical issues the plane was potentially experiencing.
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I posted a link months ago that none of you ever bothered to read.

Some short notes I remember off the top of my head

The model of the apparent drone used to capture the video didn't exist at the time of the flight
The original version of the video didn't even have model number markings visible on the drone
The video also was circulated years ago and deemed to be a fake the first time

I may not have all those details completely right, but that was the gist

I found the link. The bit about the orbs is halfway down

https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230323-mh370-why-these-two-videos-don-t-show-what-happened-to-the-lost-plane
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redline248 said:

I posted a link months ago that none of you ever bothered to read.

Some short notes I remember off the top of my head

The model of the apparent drone used to capture the video didn't exist at the time of the flight
The original version of the video didn't even have model number markings visible on the drone
The video also was circulated years ago and deemed to be a fake the first time

I may not have all those details completely right, but that was the gist

I found the link. The bit about the orbs is halfway down

https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230323-mh370-why-these-two-videos-don-t-show-what-happened-to-the-lost-plane


Every one of these points has already been addressed. I'm not going to go searching for them through hours of interviews, but you're more than welcome to hunt them down, and then whether or not you buy the answers is of course up to you.

Either way, highlighting arguments this late in the game, from months ago, long before all of this really took off, is relatively pointless. If only because there is an increasingly massive amount of people, in the hundreds, on both sides of the argument, going back and forth, utilizing all kinds of experts, pouring over every last fact and figure, debunking one side, and then debunking the debunks, to the point where no one is ever going to "win" this thing. And that reason alone is why I find this all so compelling, because there has yet to be that one silver bullet that kills the argument of one side or the other, which is almost never the case with these kinds of things.
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Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?
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Please read the 4chan (image, not to the url) link.

Very good explanation. Even if fake.
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benchmark said:

Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?
Haha. The short answer that we've been given in that 4chan link is that there is a giant alien spaceship under the ocean that is a factory that makes these other ufo that crash. They also don't care that they crash and we find them…
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benchmark said:

Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?

I'm surprised that in a 75-page thread on UFOs, this is the first billionth time this riveting point has been brought up.

To answer your question, though: obviously, it's intergalactic warfare happening on Earth from time to time. Sadly, this means we're only left with the losers' spacecraft.
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benchmark said:

Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?

One going theory is that a portion of them could be "gifts." Basically... "Here you go. If and when you can figure out how all this works, you'll be worthy of more legitimate contact."

Another popular theory (backed up with some evidence) is that we're tracking these things, and know when they go down. So, considering they'd risk even more exposure sticking around to do clean up, they let us have the scraps.
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benchmark said:

Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?


I can't even imagine how bureaucratic an intergalactic FAA would be if there are crashes.

Hell, think about the alien conspiracy theories they have about the Roswell incident. Right now, some family of Celopods is watching a documentary on how the IGTSB (inter-galactic transportation safety board) performed extensive experimentation on ignition sources in Helium-3 grav drives.

And no - I'm not trying to poke fun at anyone and their beliefs on this topic. I just find the thought of our bureaucracy in a galactic setting extremely funny. Douglas Adams nailed this.
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benchmark said:

Redstone said:

EXCLUSIVE: CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal
Begs the question .... how do UAPs defy the laws of physics and travel light years to reach us ... yet crash this often upon arrival and don't seem to care about retrieving their crash debris?


Honestly, this notion can get thrown out pretty quickly with a few logical assumptions. If we assume that the crashed UAPs are outside of our current understanding of physics, if we assume that it's possible this is ET but also maybe inter-dimensional or even time traveling, how then are we supposed to understand the WHY of how they crash if we don't even know how they're propelled.

I mean it could be anything. Maybe they ran out of the inter dimensional travel goo.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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TCTTS said:

LawHall88 said:

redline248 said:

I cannot believe people still think that's real.

I haven't been following this closely, but wasn't wreckage from that plane ultimately recovered? How does that conform with the theory that it was hijacked by aliens?


There's only been one, significant piece of debris found, and conveniently, the unique/identifying serial number that would have tied it directly to MH370 was missing. There was also apparently some kind of sea growth on it that couldn't have accumulated since 2014. Most of the other pieces of debris are just small, random plane pieces that *could* be from MH370, but aren't confirmed to be, and are mostly from one dubious Russian collector. There's also the possibility that pieces of the plane fell off before it was "zapped" (if, indeed, the videos are real) due to the mechanical issues the plane was potentially experiencing.
This is incorrect. There have been 3 pieces found with legible unique identifiers that tie them directly to MH370. And many more that are highly likely from the plane.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/asia/mh370-debris-found/index.html
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Actually, the alien bureaucracy gag predates Douglas Adams. Keith Laumer's "Retief of the CDT" (Corps Diplomatique Terrestriene) series of short stories are worth seeking out. They're a riot.
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guadalupeag said:

TCTTS said:

LawHall88 said:

redline248 said:

I cannot believe people still think that's real.

I haven't been following this closely, but wasn't wreckage from that plane ultimately recovered? How does that conform with the theory that it was hijacked by aliens?


There's only been one, significant piece of debris found, and conveniently, the unique/identifying serial number that would have tied it directly to MH370 was missing. There was also apparently some kind of sea growth on it that couldn't have accumulated since 2014. Most of the other pieces of debris are just small, random plane pieces that *could* be from MH370, but aren't confirmed to be, and are mostly from one dubious Russian collector. There's also the possibility that pieces of the plane fell off before it was "zapped" (if, indeed, the videos are real) due to the mechanical issues the plane was potentially experiencing.
This is incorrect. There have been 3 pieces found with legible unique identifiers that tie them directly to MH370. And many more that are highly likely from the plane.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/asia/mh370-debris-found/index.html


Do we really have to keep having this same conversation? Because the last couple of times I've had it, the same, five-and-six-year-old articles, with the same, dated information were linked to here, offered as a gotcha, when a number of things have changed in all that time, and what was "proven" then has been put under more scrutiny since, new info has come to light, etc.
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Have to say I'm a big fan of that underwater anon posting.

PLEASE someone follow-up and post here if he returns (no links to 4chan itself, it will be archived)

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Reference

https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
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I'll check it out, thanks!
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TCTTS said:




This is happening. I think the dam is going to break on all of this and the slow leak tactics will go by the wayside.
This also tangentially confirms the MIB legends if this department has been compartmented in CIA all this time
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Yeah, the toothpaste is out of the tube, and some form of disclosure feels more imminent than ever, we just don't know how long "imminent" will be - months or years (I still say something massive leaks within the next couple of years, enough to force the hands of the powers that be).

Regardless, it's hard to imagine, even a couple years ago, a massive media figure like Tucker Carlson discussing this subject with such conviction. I can't stand the guy, but he's spot on here...

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Not saying I believe this scenario, but it's a possibility...

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The very idea that the method and timing of the big reveal would be influenced by or has any connection to the next election is so bizarre as to be comical to me. It's still one of the most shocking things to me that the people most passionate about all this are so absolutely unaware of the magnitude of it. I saw someone on YouTube recently say that the reluctance to acknowledge the coverup is because the scandal "could be bigger than Watergate!!" What????!

So when I read commentary that paints the context as "Yeah yeah yeah, ok so there are transdimensional.time-traveling hyper-advanced aliens that are flying around our planet, but the main thing is... how will this affect the Republicans' polling and how should we handle it so that it helps us defeat Biden?" then it's clearly not to be taken seriously. It's like being told a nuclear warhead is going to hit your city in 15 minutes and the person next to you says "Aw man, I'm watching the game, what if the TV goes out for a while and I miss part of it?" I mean...,. hello?????
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