CowtownAg06 said:

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Added another unrealistic thing:

Is Jamie smart or dumb? They go back and forth him pretty severely.

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Jamie is smart but had everything handed to him and he didn't have to think.

He falls back into old patterns at times.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Now that the Keeley / Jack relationship appears to have run its course, I'll say that I'm glad it's over and the ending was not really a surprise.

When I lived in Australia, I wound up coaching women's softball for several years. I'm Puerto Rican so I love beisbol but I can only deal with so much drama. Women in their 30s and older who wind up experimenting in Lesbianism usually create so much drama that they ruin the entire team. I could deal with coaching under 10 girls, even girls aged 13-18 (which was pretty difficult). After a few years of coaching the Over 35 Women, I had to call it quits because I just couldn't deal with the fallout from the lesbian relationships.

But what's funny is, softball wasn't nearly as bad as O35 women's soccer. By this age, there were a fair number of women who were open to experimenting and there were also a few women who there's not other way to say it but to say that they were recruiting.

My wife wound up playing on a soccer team with several couples and a few new recruits among them. Several of the women were married with boys aged between 7-15 or so. It was almost like a stereotype.

There was one lady who came on really hard to my wife. She was 6 feet tall and gorgeous but she was only interested in speaking to me as a gateway to get to my wife. It was really strange.

I watched several of these relationships come and go and almost every one of them wound up in a death spiral with nuclear fallout. The only one that really lasted were two women about 55 years old. There were plenty of explosions between those two - frequently on the field, sometimes during a game.

So, when Jack acted controlling and chastised Keely about the pix, that relationship was over.

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Lmao wtf is this ***** Lesbians and bi women aren't from some different plane of existence or something, they are normal human beings just like everyone else. Some are going to handle relationships better than others, just like straight people. Do you know how many horny ass straight men and women act exactly like the lesbian women you described in your post? Who put getting laid over maintaining their interpersonal relationships at work/community groups/church/whatever? A whole lot, but it apparently doesn't cross your mind because that's "normal". Lesbians and bi women are "normal" too - and surprise! - they act like other normal people.

Jack was controlling and ultimately cared more about how Keeley made her look than about how Keeley felt. She showed some red flags (like love bombing) that Keeley ignored because it felt good in the moment.

Jack could have been a man and that story plays out in the exact same fashion. You don't think Keeley breaks up with Roy had they still been dating and he reacted in the same way Jack did? That was a cold and unempathetic reaction - any significant other that acts like that is getting dropped like a bad habit. But apparently because they are lesbians they are fundamentally incapable of having a stable relationship. This board can't see the forest for the trees sometimes.

But then what would texags complain about (other than our football program) if there wasn't some sort of culture war boogeyman threatening to upend their lives.

Also generally a whole lot of bi erasure in this thread but I'm not surprised on that front. "Omg Keeley is a lesbian now" - did she stop liking men or something?

Did anyone else notice the green matches Ted had in his hand in the bar at the beginning of the episode? In the bar with the ex and the therapist just before they get their food.
Or did I imagine this?

jrrhouston98 said:

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Did anyone else notice the green matches Ted had in his hand in the bar at the beginning of the episode? In the bar with the ex and the therapist just before they get their food.
Or did I imagine this?

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you didn't imagine it...i couldn't tell for sure, but i just assumed they were the same matches from Sam's restaurant

Keeley and Roy were both better characters when they were together. Now we get way too much Keeley in a boring relationship and not enough Roy at all.

After thinking about it, I think my biggest issue is that Keeley is now so far separated from the club, outside of attending a match every few episodes, that it doesn't even feel like she's in the same show anymore. I would care a lot more about her relationship with Jack if it involved anyone or anything central to the plot of the entire series other than just Keeley.

I think it would have been much better to just have Roy and Keeley struggle and work past them both being busy with the club and the PR firm.

Average Joe said:

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Keeley and Roy were both better characters when they were together. Now we get way too much Keeley in a boring relationship and not enough Roy at all.

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Agreed. I did like the Ted interaction though during the diamond dogs meeting

Ted: "Got anything you want to add here Roy?"
Roy: "**** off"

ORRRRR

Ted Lasso is announced as the new USMNT coach

Kampfers said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Now that the Keeley / Jack relationship appears to have run its course, I'll say that I'm glad it's over and the ending was not really a surprise.

When I lived in Australia, I wound up coaching women's softball for several years. I'm Puerto Rican so I love beisbol but I can only deal with so much drama. Women in their 30s and older who wind up experimenting in Lesbianism usually create so much drama that they ruin the entire team. I could deal with coaching under 10 girls, even girls aged 13-18 (which was pretty difficult). After a few years of coaching the Over 35 Women, I had to call it quits because I just couldn't deal with the fallout from the lesbian relationships.

But what's funny is, softball wasn't nearly as bad as O35 women's soccer. By this age, there were a fair number of women who were open to experimenting and there were also a few women who there's not other way to say it but to say that they were recruiting.

My wife wound up playing on a soccer team with several couples and a few new recruits among them. Several of the women were married with boys aged between 7-15 or so. It was almost like a stereotype.

There was one lady who came on really hard to my wife. She was 6 feet tall and gorgeous but she was only interested in speaking to me as a gateway to get to my wife. It was really strange.

I watched several of these relationships come and go and almost every one of them wound up in a death spiral with nuclear fallout. The only one that really lasted were two women about 55 years old. There were plenty of explosions between those two - frequently on the field, sometimes during a game.

So, when Jack acted controlling and chastised Keely about the pix, that relationship was over.

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Lmao wtf is this ***** Lesbians and bi women aren't from some different plane of existence or something, they are normal human beings just like everyone else. Some are going to handle relationships better than others, just like straight people. Do you know how many horny ass straight men and women act exactly like the lesbian women you described in your post? Who put getting laid over maintaining their interpersonal relationships at work/community groups/church/whatever? A whole lot, but it apparently doesn't cross your mind because that's "normal". Lesbians and bi women are "normal" too - and surprise! - they act like other normal people.

Jack was controlling and ultimately cared more about how Keeley made her look than about how Keeley felt. She showed some red flags (like love bombing) that Keeley ignored because it felt good in the moment.

Jack could have been a man and that story plays out in the exact same fashion. You don't think Keeley breaks up with Roy had they still been dating and he reacted in the same way Jack did? That was a cold and unempathetic reaction - any significant other that acts like that is getting dropped like a bad habit. But apparently because they are lesbians they are fundamentally incapable of having a stable relationship. This board can't see the forest for the trees sometimes.

But then what would texags complain about (other than our football program) if there wasn't some sort of culture war boogeyman threatening to upend their lives.

Also generally a whole lot of bi erasure in this thread but I'm not surprised on that front. "Omg Keeley is a lesbian now" - did she stop liking men or something?

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Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. It applies to straight and gay couples.

Every straight women I know has had "issues" with every other woman in their life at one time or another.

We moved when my youngest was 12. He met some guys at school his first day at our new city. They've been best friends for 10+years and still hang out as much as possible when they're all home from college.

All of the girls he/they know have had multiple best friends, fall outs with girl friends, huge blow ups in public and generally *****yness towards each other. Yet the 4 guys still get along just fine.

Women = Drama
Men = Fights and they get over it and stay friends, or move on.

Jamie and Roy make the show. They need a spinoff with just those two.

I watched the episode again, and I think it gets worse, not better.

A few things:
- The show is at its best when we're with the main characters and team and they are interacting with each other. They could have cut out so much of this episode and added it on the front end to show how the team is coming together and playing the new system well instead of the brief intro we got.

- the longer runtimes I think are hurting the show, not helping. They are trying to add too much, and most of it doesn't add anything to the show, it could be cut for the better. The shorter episodes made it feel like everything included was important and contributing.

- the Keeley/PR/Jack storyline is bad. No, not because of the bi story, but because 1) it has separated her from the team and she has almost no interaction with anyone outside of Rebecca and even that has been limited 2) what is the point? She has had no character growth - all that has happened is she is again jumping from relationship to relationship. We have seen her doing no PR work, so what is the point of her character? 3) She's been given what feels like more screen time than like any other character and for what purpose?

- Ted: Has Ted also not grown as a character? We spent all last season with Dr. Sharon and Ted finally opening up and getting help. Now he finds out about his ex wife might be getting engaged and instead of talking to Dr. Sharon he goes right to psycho I need to hire a PI? That doesn't seem like growth.

- Nate: Whereas Jamie's character arc and redemption has been fantastic, they are pushing Nate's too fast and he really hasn't changed or had anything happen to make him redeemed. He's still a jerk but now with a girlfriend that is super into him? Again - there was a lot of screen time dedicated to Nate and Jade that didn't add much. The part with Ted/Beard/Henry was good but that just showed him thanking Rupert for making sure they don't come back

- Positives: Beard's talk with Henry, all of them singing Hey Jude (this felt like a very Ted Lasso moment), Higgins running to the diamond dogs meeting, Roy's contribution, adding Trent to the diamond dogs, Rebecca helping Keeley, Jaime's growth and apology (two s's!),

There's still a few episodes left, so they might smooth it out and stick the landing, but this episode didn't fill me with hope. It feels like they are running out of time and still have a lot of things to tie up.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2023/05/ted-lasso-season-three-decline/673943/

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As it's racked up viewers and accolades, a charming workplace sitcom has transformed into a bloated prestige drama.

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Pretty accurate assessment. It's turned from one story with characters interacting with each other to multiple stories focused on individuals and stretchs the ability to intertwine it all together.

Average Joe said:

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I think it would have been much better to just have Roy and Keeley struggle and work past them both being busy with the club and the PR firm.

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I was really hoping they'd focus more on Keeley dealing with the challenges of being the boss, learning from Rebecca, and moving her toward something bigger...like being a leader at one of the other football teams. While they've done some of that, I think they've chosen more to create massive drama with her personal life, which to me cheapens her character and makes her seem weaker. There's still the opportunity to give her a better arc, but I think it's become drama for the sake of drama and takes away from what makes the show great.

Rebecca was also great dissing on Paris.

I hope that they do not make Collin's outing into some huge negative gay-bashing scene because it wouldn't be realistic in 2023. Teams have gay guys come out all the time. It's old hat now. I hope it is the Captain gathering his team and collectively embracing Collin's orientation because he is family and that's all that matters.

I wonder what the rights to Hey Jude cost them...