I'm glad there was no Mandolorian spy. That just really would not fit their entire code.

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I'm glad there was no Mandolorian spy. That just really would not fit their entire code.

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It would have shattered some of the steadfast belief in their code, for some. Maybe for Din. It could have created opportunities to explore new ideas.

Ultimately, it doesn't bother me too much, though.

I think it's important to reiterate that there were, in fact, spies in the Spies episode, but they just weren't who some wanted them to be.

So what exactly about this episode was supposed "to make me wish I hadnt asked for more?"

I would characterize it more as "expectation" than "want."

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LB12Diamond said:

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I'm glad there was no Mandolorian spy. That just really would not fit their entire code.

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It would have shattered some of the steadfast belief in their code, for some. Maybe for Din. It could have created opportunities to explore new ideas.

Ultimately, it doesn't bother me too much, though.

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The destruction of the Darksaber is probably the beginning of the shift away from the old ways. They implied that The Armorer was previously Death Watch and Djarin said it means nothing to him or his people (basically covert) opening the door for people to leave some of the old ways in the past IMO.

Overall, I don't think they could have added that to the story and completed everything in about 30 minutes. Everything happened so fast in this episode. This is probably something they could setup in a future story/spinoff but I think they tied up everything they needed to. Looking back on it in this morning, I really wish they had just aired this as a 7 episode season with this and the previous episode airing together.

I thought I read somewhere season 4 has been written and filming would start Oct 2023?

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- Also, how do they do not tease another threat of any kind? No post credit scene or anything?

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They did, in the previous episode. Thrawn is our new big bad across all Mandoverse shows.

So what's up with the dark saber being able to be crushed like that? That was the one thing I didn't like. If he was really that strong he would have taken her out pretty fast.

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I agree with a lot of what TCTTS said in his initial post for this episode even though I actually enjoyed it a lot. Especially where Din has to now go on solo adventures so Grogu can earn his beskar, or whatever. Like, seriously, mf-er, did you not see him save the day like 3 times?

I have to say, a lot of shows/movies do this, but I kind of hate when a bad guy is too strong to be defeated straight up and you need to crash a ship into the planet to kill him in an explosion of fire. A villain like Thanos, sure...make him really hard to beat. A 2nd tier Imperial wannabe? Just f-cking kill him.

A few things I was surprised didn't happen, but ultimately aren't a huge deal to me. No spies, no mythosaur...bummer, but oh well.


Again, I enjoyed it all for the most part. Probably give it a solid B or B- for my taste. If it were me, I'd have cut the trip to Tatooine and the Jack Black planet, and paid off the Mythosaur somehow.

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The more I think on it, yeah, the more I - "liked" is strong word, let's go with "mildly enjoyed" - the episode itself, at least in a vacuum. On a macro level, given the mind numbing mandate of the show, it *was* a nice little culmination of events, at least allowing for a clean restart of sorts going forward. Also, as someone who continually wants these characters to move past some of their dumber traditions, I do at least appreciate them finally getting rid of the Dark Saber and advancing past such a silly rule in favor of unity.

I guess it just feels weird to me, that two weeks after Celebration, where all kinds of multi-show synergy was promoted, and a culminating movie was announced, they decided to set everything back to zero for the second time in this show's run. Again, I get it, it's just so cynical, and such cowardly corporate bullsh*t.

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redline248 said:

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I agree with a lot of what TCTTS said in his initial post for this episode even though I actually enjoyed it a lot. Especially where Din has to now go on solo adventures so Grogu can earn his beskar, or whatever. Like, seriously, mf-er, did you not see him save the day like 3 times?

I have to say, a lot of shows/movies do this, but I kind of hate when a bad guy is too strong to be defeated straight up and you need to crash a ship into the planet to kill him in an explosion of fire. A villain like Thanos, sure...make him really hard to beat. A 2nd tier Imperial wannabe? Just f-cking kill him.

A few things I was surprised didn't happen, but ultimately aren't a huge deal to me. No spies, no mythosaur...bummer, but oh well.


Again, I enjoyed it all for the most part. Probably give it a solid B or B- for my taste. If it were me, I'd have cut the trip to Tatooine and the Jack Black planet, and paid off the Mythosaur somehow.

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The more I think on it, yeah, the more I - "liked" is strong word, let's go with "mildly enjoyed" - the episode itself, at least in a vacuum. On a macro level, given the mind numbing mandate of the show, it *was* a nice little culmination of events, at least allowing for a clean restart of sorts going forward. Also, as someone who continually wants these characters to move past some of their dumber traditions, I do at least appreciate them finally getting rid of the Dark Saber and advancing past such a silly rule in favor of unity.

I guess it just feels weird to me, that two weeks after Celebration, where all kinds of multi-show synergy was promoted, and a culminating movie was announced, they decided to set everything back to zero for the second time in this show's run. Again, I get it, it's just so cynical, and such cowardly corporate bullsh*t.

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Between celebration and the lack of unity from this morning/today for the show, I got the impression that there was something else supposed to release with this. However, I wonder if they delayed it (a post credit scene or trailer) until after tomorrow because Picard's finale comes out within the next 24 hours. Feels like some marketing gamesmanship going on IMO.

I appreciate that they've cleared and tied up stuff from previous seasons and given us a pretty clear resolution on Djarin's story with Grogu until now. They laid some groundwork for Grogu learning the ropes with Djarin doing bounty hunting in the finale but I think that's a slow burn and we won't see much of that on screen IMO. I feel like at this point where we go is largely left up to where Ahsoka's first season ends and takes us.

Oh, I have to say that relegating Grogu to bounty hunter work massively underutilizes his ability.

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I think Din and Grogu being mercenaries for the New Republic is a set up for connection down the line, given that many of the characters in Asoka are connected to or serving in the New Republic, but there is clearly a line they won't cross in the outer rim, etc.

I'm actually glad they have stuck to their guns in Star Wars and not done a post-credits scene. Leave that gimmick to Marvel and just do your own thing.

The season two finale featured a post credit scene that set up/announced The Book of Boba Fett. For that reason alone, many were expecting something similar here, if only to further tease Thrawn or whoever else.

This season was definitely a mess. I think the show will benefit greatly from just being adventures of the week for the most part and stop trying to do some big connected storytelling. Then use the characters in other shows or a film.

Also, at the end, I had this thought: What if The Mandalorian of the title isn't Din...but ends up being Grogu at the end? The show is his journey from charge --> foundling --> apprentice --> Mandalorian. He will be the first force wielding Mandalorian in centuries. Just a thought...

At the rate Grogu ages, I don't think I could the 100 seasons it would take to get there.

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Armor made him stronger? I don't get that. It's was just armor. It's not like he was a cyborg.

Season 1 had the post credits scene too....

Well, I appreciate the departure then haha

Well, we really have no idea how much time has passed or how his species ages, other than obviously slow in the first 50 years and they live LONG lives. So there is room to play there.

When he walked yes. Didn't notice it when he moved his arms as well as how it the armor on his arms looked. Anyway. No biggie

I rewatched it and it made sounds a couple for his arm movements. Not all the time like the legs. And the scene where he crushed it and there was no sound. And nothing on the arm armor that looked mechanized.

Overall, the season was a B- for me.

I enjoyed this episode more than most of the filler episodes, this season. I am especially happy it seems others read too much into the Armorer. If she had turned out to be a spy, it would have been the most ridiculous twist.

Getting to see Grogu finally really lean in to using the Force was awesome. This is Star Wars. I want the Force and I want Jedi, even in a Mandalorian show.

I'm not really wanted to see a return to episodic seasons with a Mission of the Week featuring Mando and Grogu. I think the most intriguing thing they have here is the rebuilding of Mandalore and where Grogu fits in this new world. Are we looking at the first Mandalorian Force user of a Jedi's caliber since the once that created the Darksaber? If so, that seems kind of important, especially in this new world we know we are getting without the a true dedication to the Jedi Order (despite how much I hate that crap from Rise of Skywalker).

At the end of the day, I've accepted this show for what it is. I just don't think we are going to get great writing or dialogue. I watch to get my little taste of something cool in each episode, and consider it a win if I didn't get bored.

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Real treat seeing Katee Sackhoff in her element again. One of these days I need to rewatch BSG.

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Watching Katee Sackhoff in "Scar," "The Passage," and "Maelstrom" from BSG 2004 are some of the better acted scenes in recent scifi history I can think of. She clearly has the range to play impactful scenes. At this point, I'm just wondering when we will have scenes with Edward James Olmos and Jamie Bamber in the show.

Everyone talks about how old Grogu is, and how he ages… but what gets me is y'all are thinking in earth years like he is a human.

I constantly think of Interstellar when the my go to the water exo planet and every second on the planet, the black guy in the ship ages a year, so when they come back he's like an old man… so how things ages jumping from planet to planet, going across the galaxy and back… and just time in general in the Star Wars world is confusing as heck!

It's still incredibly dumb. I realize this is a fantasy franchise at heart, but having people just fly around space without any kind of compression suit, and with easily removable helmets, is lazy at best.