rhutton125 said:
This sure seems like a lot of projecting. None of that has even happened yet, or didn't happen at all (they side stepped Ms Marvel having Mr Fantastic's powers - but you'd know that if you watched the show).
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The problem with Phase 4 is they are just gender-swapping established male characters. They aren't putting a twist on an old story, they are just putting a woman without any moral/character defect in the place of the legacy character.
Isn't She-Hulk a twist on an old story in that she has different struggles and traits than Hulk did? And I sure didn't get the impression that she had no defects and was perfect and would be replacing Hulk. I think she's just going to have to figure out how to be She-Hulk for herself. No amount of time in a lab or doing yoga is going to teach her whatever she's going to need to know across the next 8 episodes (I assume).
None of that has happened yet....yea that's the problem. They started propping up Ms Marvel to take control after Captain Marvel flopped. People seem to forget the 180 Disney had to do with Brie Larson. They were setting her up as the next leader of the avengers but the film didn't resonate with audiences. Then they cut her exposure in endgame to less than 8mins of screen time.
Now with Ms Marvel they are trying to make her the new leader of the team. You see the push to have khan as a primary character in young avengers, new avengers, a team, ffs even the recent animated spidey and friends for 3yos. This character, while not new to Marvel, has been really pushed in the last 10 years into the narrative. You see her and America Chavez in a lot of team ups and best friend shtt.
As for her rip-off of Mr fantastic, I read somewhere that in Pakistan they basically just have the character walking around with big fists because Pakistan won't accept her origin story on screen. Which was what? She found some artifact of her dead grandmother's while playing dress up? Compelling stuff.
Supposedly Ms Marvel is doing worse with audiences than Disney will admit and they might go another direction. So my argument of her leading the team may never come true, if she gets the Captain Marvel treatment. But I think Disney really wants to market her character because they make her quirky and fourth-wall breaking. Khan is just an American teen who uses her stretchy arms to take ridiculous selfies with her super friends. She's a uniter. And is meant to have a light and fluffy tone (which is the tone of the MCU).
I can't remember if it was young avengers or new avengers but one got the GLAAD (lbgtq) award for lesbian and queen representation or some such. Disney already charted the course to introduce these characters, but be on the look out if they make the "shipping" actually occur. Recall Disney lost billions from their conference call earlier this summer where execs were gleefully admitting they insert LBGTQ themes into everything they can. Whether you agree with "the message" or not, Disney took a hit. If they go down that path and push it overtly it would be a major financial mistake.But here's the problem with all these teen/tween female supes. You ready? How many times does Disney/Marvel tell the "im unsure of myself, but I don't need to prove myself to anyone" story. They did it once in Captain Marvel and I will bet we see it once in she Hulk, at least with Hawkeye she recognized she wasn't sht compared to an actual avenger and she had to become better. Many of these female supes are written as without blemish, or at worst the blemish is she lack self-confidence. /snooze "I was always great, I just didn't realize it." Cringe.
Even with she Hulk. Bruce spent years hiding from the MIC and coming to terms with his inner demon. Green Ruffalo is a bad Hulk, yeah I said it, you can't do anything with that character. But now she Hulk walks in and has no internal or external conflict with being a Hulk. What she has to deal with catcalling and tinder creeps? Quell dommage.
