***** The Irishman *****

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Goodfellas is great. This is better.
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It came full circle to see Joe Pesci's character talk about the character he also played in JFK.
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Biggest weakness in the film was Pacino. Preferred Nicholson's Hoffa over Pacino's by a mile.
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Pacino has become a cartoon character and I thought he was cartoonish in the Irishman. Loved the movie overall but I thought his acting was one if the weaker elements for me.
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As a character, I thought the Hoffa character was the only interesting one in the film - all others pretty one dimensional and rote. At least Hoffa, as portrayed, had some interesting internal conflicts. I thought his scenes with Pro were some of the more interesting in the film.
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Loved Pacino's character. Agreed that the scenes with Pro were awesome!
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Complete Idiot said:

It was an interesting story, it was well crafted, it was well acted - but I felt it was missing something compared to those past Scorsese mafia movies. Might have suffered from build up, not only contemporary reviews but those prior movies and the careers of Scorsese and the cast. I enjoyed it but don't feel like I'd want to rewatch as I have Goodfellas or Casino.

I do recommend it, it's good - just has so much to live up to.


Agree completely.

For me at least, it's definitely a notch below the other Scorsese work mentioned here. I've watched Casino many many times and will watch again. I can't imagine sitting down and watching the Irishman a second time.
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With the A list cast, & talent- Pesci steals every scene. He deserves every award coming to him.

I agree with the other assessments. It is not Marty's best work, & I personally couldn't get over DeNiro playing someone who's Irish. Changing his eyes became a little distracting. In Casino he didn't bother to change his NY accent over to a Chicago one, when Pesci did. But you overlook minor details when the movie is so damn good. The film is still solid, & from a historical perspective, a very interesting one.

I put this movie on par with Once Upon A Time in America.
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I thought it was WAY too long and it didn't hold my interest

I liked it but I just lost interest and couldn't finish it.
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I've been afraid to say what I thought of it, but I've been relieved to see some comments here and from real friends on facebook reflecting my thoughts.
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I was most impressed with Silvio Dante's vocal range.
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Pesci was great. Dinero was Dinero as the Irishman. Played it the same as every other role he's ever been in. Pacino was similar. Good story, good watch. I still think these two guys are overrated actors.
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I don't agree that DeNiro plays the same character in all these movies. Both him and Pesci's characters in Goodfellas are downright scary people. In this, they're soft, reflective and loyal. Someone else describing Pesci's role in "The Irishman" as basically his cameo in "A Bronx Tale" extended over 3.5 hours is so spot-on.

I really like that this is a character study mostly on those who find themselves in the mob world. It was telling that Scorsese chose to introduce so many characters by telling you when and how they died. At the end, only one remains- Frank, who's left all alone. The main takeaway for me was that no matter how loyal you were, or if you were a rat- there's no happy ending at all for you
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I was just totally underwhelmed by this movie. Party I guess because I felt it was too meandering and party because the "history" they present as fact in this movie is likely complete fiction.

It wasn't a bad movie but not one of Scorcese's best.
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I for one loved this movie, but I also totally understand why some people didn't. Everyone that I have told about it I have also warned them to know what they are getting into. This isn't Goodfellas or Casino. This is a slow burn movie built around dialogue and great acting. Most people have told me they enjoyed it, but they were thankful that I told them what to expect or they might not have liked it as much.
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Good, not great. The acting was outstanding but this movie didn't need to be 3.5 hours long. This felt like it went to Netflix specifically so they could have it be any length they wanted. No way another other production company puts this in theaters without editing out an hour, which could have been done. It just felt like it was two films to me that were smashed together. There was the film that concentrated on Deniro/Pesci and the film that concentrated on Deniro/Pacino. It just didn't feel cohesive to me.

Agree with other sentiments, Pesci steals every scene, so good.

It's not in the ballpark with Goodfellas or Casino for me, plenty of Scorsese films are extremely rewatchable, this one isn't.
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Casino was three hours long and that came out in 1995. The Hateful Eight was over three hours long. I feel like if you're a director of a certain distinction, you can make your movie as long as you want, regardless of distribution platform.
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Great movie.....better than Good Fellas and or Casino or even The Departed????? probably not, IMO, but in time when most movies made are junk, especially mob/mafia movies, it quenches the thirst and then some.

Sidenote.....was in Vegas 2 weeks ago and went to the Mob Museum. If you like factual history about prohibition, teamsters/racketeering, the building of Vegas, etc., then check it out. Really cool spot.......
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Not to say anyone has the "right" opinion, but did anyone else feel like something was off on Pescis performance. He was still good, but something in the delivery and timing felt wrong to me, and it's hard to explain why.
I've seen a bunch of people say it was great, but I don't see it. Same goes for really all of the elderly cast. It would be interesting to think what younger actors they could have cast that could pull this movie off.


As a side note, Netflix recommend "Kill the Irishman" to me after this so I checked it out. If you were feeling like The Irishman was just kinda ok or even bad, watch this move and you will realize that The Irishman is actually very good.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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This was such a good Pesci performance to me.

Total opposite of his characters in Goodfellas/Casino.
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Belton Ag said:

I was just totally underwhelmed by this movie. Party I guess because I felt it was too meandering and party because the "history" they present as fact in this movie is likely complete fiction.

It wasn't a bad movie but not one of Scorcese's best.
This is how I felt.

I kept hearing/seeing reviews that this is 'one of Scoreses best films ever!' Almost felt like someone else tried to copy the 'scorsese formula'

Not a bad movie. Just nothing really special about it.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

This was such a good Pesci performance to me.

Total opposite of his characters in Goodfellas/Casino.
Now that I definitely agree with. Very reserved and intense. It very well could just be something about his delivery just didnt track with me. Thats why I was interested to see if anyone else had the same experience.
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Pesci was great.

But that wasn't a movie. It was a plodding mini series. It's good enough but not in the top half of Marty's work imo. The subject matter and characters are what makes it feel better than it is imo.
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Full disclosure... I think Scorsese is an ok film maker and but wildly overrated and this movie is a perfect example of why.

This was not a good movie. Time will give this the Gangs of NY treatment. Gangs of NY wasn't a good movie and people know it wasn't a good movie... but they blame it on something that wasn't really the problem with that movie... in Gangs of NY case, that was Cameron Diaz. This movie seems to already be gravitating towards the fake history as the problem with it that in time people will say made it not great.

In reality, like most Scorsese movies, this movie has some good moments but is completely disrespectful of the viewer's time. Want to know how I know it was a bad movie? The easy answer is that it was 3:10 long... but in reality, the reason it was bad is that it was redundant and no thought was put into what's necessary in the movie and what wasn't. It could have still been a character study and been like an hour shorter and not sacrificed a thing. No... the reason I know it was a bad movie is that I watched it in 4 sittings and didn't feel bothered, confused or that I missed a thing for doing it that way.
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I'm one hour into it and I am enjoying it for the most part.

Great acting from everyone, but I'm waiting for the plot to arrive. It feels like I'm watching Scorsese and Co. filming an A&E documentary on these people.

For example, Goodfellas had the Lufthansa heist as a major event that shaped the rest of the film. Is something like that coming?
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This is a movie that I feel the sum isn't as good as the parts. The acting is great, the writing is great and the directing is great, but the movie was just decent. The last movie I felt this way about was The Revenant. I can watch any 30 minute segment and really enjoy it, but taking in the whole movie was a chore.
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Tectonic plates move faster than this movie. If it was 90 minutes it would have been an average flick. At 4 hours it's a complete waste of time.
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Is this movie worth the 3.5 hours or should I just watch Goodfellas again?

Also how can an autuer make the same movie three times and each one be so critically acclaimed?
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CostanzaWallet said:

Is this movie worth the 3.5 hours or should I just watch Goodfellas again?

Also how can an autuer make the same movie three times and each one be so critically acclaimed?


If you like nostalgia for the actors and that sort of movie, you'll enjoy it. But no... it isn't a great movie.

I spent the 3+ hours watching the movie so it isn't that I didn't enjoy the movie... it just isn't a great movie.
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Bruce Almighty said:

This is a movie that I feel the sum isn't as good as the parts. The acting is great, the writing is great and the directing is great, but the movie was just decent. The last movie I felt this way about was The Revenant. I can watch any 30 minute segment and really enjoy it, but taking in the whole movie was a chore.
I feel similarly. I'm enjoying it, but also losing interest every 30 minutes or so and coming back to it later.
Brian Earl Spilner
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But no... it isn't a great movie.
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CostanzaWallet said:

Is this movie worth the 3.5 hours or should I just watch Goodfellas again?

Also how can an autuer make the same movie three times and each one be so critically acclaimed?
This is very different from Goodfellas
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This thing has no plot. There is one "twist" anyone with a half brain saw coming from the beginning.
 
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