No Pressure said:

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This thing has no plot. There is one "twist" anyone with a half brain saw coming from the beginning.

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It's a tone poem.

Pacino is the only guy that showed emotion the whole movie. Just not very good, 3.5 hrs and nothing really happened.

CostanzaWallet said:

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Is this movie worth the 3.5 hours or should I just watch Goodfellas again?

Also how can an autuer make the same movie three times and each one be so critically acclaimed?

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I think its definitely worth watching, and I'd say I feel its good but not great.

Extremely underwhelmed. I thought Pesci was the best. Way too long and just not that interesting. Doesn't hold a candle to the better mob movies whether it be from Scorsese or others.

It's not that it was bad, it just wasn't good. Glad I broke it up into 4 parts.

There are a TON of biased opinions going on.

I love mob movies and I love this cast in mob movies. Scorcese, Pesci, De Niro, Pacino, etc. are why people are saying this was a hit. There's nothing wrong with liking a bad movie. This was bad but I liked it. Why? Because I love mob movies and I like these guys in mob movies. The story was good too, but then again all storylines of the mob are interesting to me. But man the age of these characters shows. Young Pesci and De Niro looked too old & Old Pesci and De Niro looked too old. The fight scene where he beats up the guy outside the store was terrible. I'm not sure I've watched a scene so cringe worthy.

And this was Board Walk Empire characters acting the same they did in that series. Where's the new blood of actors? I felt like they tried too hard with the casting. I think everyone was in it but Ray Liotta.

Who were the original characters? What were they like? I didn't get a sense who Frank Sheeran was. It felt like Robert De Niro playing a mob any hitman.

I dunno. It was a bad movie but I still liked it. ....Cuz I like mob movies.

The movie you starred in is still my favorite of the year.

Irishman wouldn't crack top 10

Rick Dalton said:

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The Irishman has been named Best Film of the Year by the National Board of Review! Last year's winner, Green Book, went on to win the Oscar for Best Picture (still not happy about that one).

http://www.nationalboardofreview.org/2019/12/national-board-of-review-announces-2019-award-winners/

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And Justin Bieber won a Grammy. Dog**** is dog**** no matter how you spin it.

You guys are too sensitive. Enjoy your "movie of the year".

I've been avoiding this thread out of spoiler fear. But Google suggested an article titled something like "Admit it, there Irishman is terrible"

Should I avoid it?

aTmAg said:

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I've been avoiding this thread out of spoiler fear. But Google suggested an article titled something like "Admit it, there Irishman is terrible"

Should I avoid it?

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I didn't like it. I don't regret watching it, but I won't ever watch any part of it again where as most other Scorsese mob movies or movies with these actors I would.

It was about as meh as a movie can be.

Finally watched it tonight. The age thing was a bit distracting as others have said, but overall I really liked it. Scorsese does mob movies well and while I still like Goodfellas and Casino more I thought this was solid.

I'm not talking about people giving real insight on what they thought was lacking or why it didn't register with them. But the last few pages here have become "it was overrated because it's Scorsese" or " there was no story/plot" or "I'm glad someone else didn't like it so now I can say that too", which does not make for good discussion.

*edit to say "good" discussion

dave94 said:

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I'm not talking about people giving real insight on what they thought was lacking or why it didn't register with them. But the last few pages here have become "it was overrated because it's Scorsese" or " there was no story/plot" or "I'm glad someone else didn't like it so now I can say that too", which does not make for good discussion.

*edit to say "good" discussion

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Unfortunately that's how it tends to go. We get some pretty good discussions, get invaded by people looking to troll for a few pages, and then back to good discussions. I wish everyone would actually watch the movie before reading any reviews or articles, go in without any external bias.

ac04 said:

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aTmAg said:

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I've been avoiding this thread out of spoiler fear. But Google suggested an article titled something like "Admit it, there Irishman is terrible"

Should I avoid it?

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maybe just watch it and form your own opinion?

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I don't have time to watch every movie/show that I'm somewhat interested in to form my own opinion. I'd rather get a heads up before I waste my time on something mediocre.

dave94 said:

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I'm not talking about people giving real insight on what they thought was lacking or why it didn't register with them. But the last few pages here have become "it was overrated because it's Scorsese" or " there was no story/plot" or "I'm glad someone else didn't like it so now I can say that too", which does not make for good discussion.

*edit to say "good" discussion

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Get over yourself and stop taking it personally when somebody doesn't like a movie as much as you do.

There are just as many 'wow... what a masterpiece!' that add as much if not less to the discussion in this thread.

It will never be as good as Goodfellas because it will not benefit from being replayed on TBS and just randomly stumbling into it.

I thought it was pretty good, not best ever by any means. Pesci and Graham were awesome, Pacino was great IMO - he didn't overact as much as usual and from all accounts, portrayed Hoffa like the stubborn hot-head that he was. DeNiro -- meh. Didn't seem like much of a challenging character -- just be the calming presence, stare contemplatively, glare occasionally. This movie definitely needed to be made about 15 years ago to make his younger self believable.

Scorsese did a brilliant job with the scenes and setting -- the clothes, cars, furniture, music, etc. The award ceremony scene (the cuts to Hoffa, Peggy and Frank's faces while watching the conversations), all interactions between Hoffa and Pro, and some of the smaller throwaway scenes were standouts -- the choosing of guns for the Gallo hit, the discussion of the fish in the car.

I watched it over two nights. Don't know if I'll watch it again. Unlike Goodfellas, Casino, "One" and "Two", which are automatic stops while flipping channels.