Good acting all around. Even the horse.

So in the end it wasn't the cars/license plates, it wasn't the garage, it wasn't the safehouses, or any particular murder or other crime, it wasn't being caught with any top secret info or messages, it wasn't pastor Tim, it wasn't work issues, or travel records, it wasn't even Stan snooping around their house.

It was the Russian Orthodox priests, specifically the one who married them and acted as their go between for a while. He was too dumb to realize if they were talking to other priests they were likely watching them all.

Funny that all of that which they played so carefully for years and years was undone by one slipup.

I mean they were likely onto them soon enough anyway but thats the thing that cracked it wide open.

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Oleg and Stan in the cell was so subtly great. One of my favorite scenes in that show.

The 'stache and glasses weren't enough, Phil. You're busted.

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This really was my favorite scene last night, although many were so good... but their relationship and the way Oleg leans over and whispers. It was so kind of intimate and only could have happened with their level of trust and understanding built over the years. Stan gets him and he gets Stan but they have to play their roles.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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So in the end it wasn't the cars/license plates, it wasn't the garage, it wasn't the safehouses, or any particular murder or other crime, it wasn't being caught with any top secret info or messages, it wasn't pastor Tim, it wasn't work issues, or travel records, it wasn't even Stan snooping around their house.

It was the Russian Orthodox priests, specifically the one who married them and acted as their go between for a while. He was too dumb to realize if they were talking to other priests they were likely watching them all.

Funny that all of that which they played so carefully for years and years was undone by one slipup.

I mean they were likely onto them soon enough anyway but thats the thing that cracked it wide open.

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Exactly - the whole "hey, how are you doing? have a seat. how is the wife? oh, by the way...FBI...." thing made me chuckle. And then it pissed me off because it was Phil having to escape.

lunchbox said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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So in the end it wasn't the cars/license plates, it wasn't the garage, it wasn't the safehouses, or any particular murder or other crime, it wasn't being caught with any top secret info or messages, it wasn't pastor Tim, it wasn't work issues, or travel records, it wasn't even Stan snooping around their house.

It was the Russian Orthodox priests, specifically the one who married them and acted as their go between for a while. He was too dumb to realize if they were talking to other priests they were likely watching them all.

Funny that all of that which they played so carefully for years and years was undone by one slipup.

I mean they were likely onto them soon enough anyway but thats the thing that cracked it wide open.

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Exactly - the whole "hey, how are you doing? have a seat. how is the wife? oh, by the way...FBI...." thing made me chuckle. And then it pissed me off because it was Phil having to escape.

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Especially since Philip was only there really because Elizabeth had her own mess to clean up (killing another agent who was sent to kill the person she would not kill....etc.) and sent him to meet the priest in her place.

Philip tried to get out but keeps getting dragged back in. Just like The Godfather. Damn family businesses.

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Big Cat `93 said:

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Oleg and Stan in the cell was so subtly great. One of my favorite scenes in that show.

The 'stache and glasses weren't enough, Phil. You're busted.

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This really was my favorite scene last night, although many were so good... but their relationship and the way Oleg leans over and whispers. It was so kind of intimate and only could have happened with their level of trust and understanding built over the years. Stan gets him and he gets Stan but they have to play their roles.

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Also Stan s realization that it does matter why Oleg is doing what he is doing was key. Stan went in there with the idea of just getting the illegals but I think he left realizing that the whole future of the world might just depend on Gorbachev succeeding and Oleg is part of that.

That is why I made my comment about it is possible Philip and Elizabeth survive this whole thing.

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agreed it is now possible..... although i think Stan could agree to some deal letting Oleg go but not the Jennings. But he might have to for some reason or they might play him such that they get out. But he knows the things they've done in the past and that won't be excused (at least not easily or voluntarily i think) just because right now they are acting in the best interest of peace. We'll see. Oleg is a spy but as far as Stan knows he has not killed anyone - more of just a diplomatic thing. He wants the illegals and knows they have killed dozens of people at least some of them innocents actually. But it does open the door to that possibility I think. I still think someone will be sacrificing themselves though.

The eventual confrontation between the Jennings and Stan is going to be both stressful and so much fun to watch.

Stan's old partner is dead because of Elizabeth. She ain't getting outta this alive.....if she does, it's because Stan died trying.....

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Stan's old partner is dead because of Elizabeth. She ain't getting outta this alive.....if she does, it's because Stan died trying.....

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which is why i think both die.....one immediately (probably Stan getting E) and then the other by someone else's hand (probably Philip or Renee coming in to get Stan). At least that way he dies knowing he got his partners killer (and doesn't have to live with being the agent that lived across the street from spies).

Even though Philip was the one seen and nearly caught I still think he gets away back to mother Russia with his son and/or Martha.

Not sure about the kids. But I don't see them going to Russia.

I can also see Elizabeth dying, and Philip and Paige getting shipped back to the USSR, while Stan makes it out alive and adopts an ignorant and fully patriotic American, Henry.

The woman Elizabeth killed was the one that confronted Oleg about being a double agent, no?

Don't think it was her.

ETA: OK, maybe I do...see message below...

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So in the end it wasn't the cars/license plates, it wasn't the garage, it wasn't the safehouses, or any particular murder or other crime, it wasn't being caught with any top secret info or messages, it wasn't pastor Tim, it wasn't work issues, or travel records, it wasn't even Stan snooping around their house.

It was the Russian Orthodox priests, specifically the one who married them and acted as their go between for a while. He was too dumb to realize if they were talking to other priests they were likely watching them all.

Funny that all of that which they played so carefully for years and years was undone by one slipup.

I mean they were likely onto them soon enough anyway but thats the thing that cracked it wide open.

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Exactly - the whole "hey, how are you doing? have a seat. how is the wife? oh, by the way...FBI...." thing made me chuckle. And then it pissed me off because it was Phil having to escape.

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The priest undoubtedly got arrested too. Once the gig was up, it was up on them both.

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Don't think it was her.

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Really!? When the blonde wig fell off it looked like her with her hair back.

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lunchbox said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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So in the end it wasn't the cars/license plates, it wasn't the garage, it wasn't the safehouses, or any particular murder or other crime, it wasn't being caught with any top secret info or messages, it wasn't pastor Tim, it wasn't work issues, or travel records, it wasn't even Stan snooping around their house.

It was the Russian Orthodox priests, specifically the one who married them and acted as their go between for a while. He was too dumb to realize if they were talking to other priests they were likely watching them all.

Funny that all of that which they played so carefully for years and years was undone by one slipup.

I mean they were likely onto them soon enough anyway but thats the thing that cracked it wide open.

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Exactly - the whole "hey, how are you doing? have a seat. how is the wife? oh, by the way...FBI...." thing made me chuckle. And then it pissed me off because it was Phil having to escape.

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The priest undoubtedly got arrested too. Once the gig was up, it was up on them both.

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I meant Phil instead of Elizabeth having to escape.

And they did mention later in the FBI offices that the priest would be there in about 10 minutes...meaning yes, he was caught,

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The woman Elizabeth killed was the one that confronted Oleg about being a double agent, no?

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Yes, it was her.

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lunchbox said:

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Don't think it was her.

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Really!? When the blonde wig fell off it looked like her with her hair back.

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I didn't think so...I also don't think they would send out an official (Tatiana...had to look it up) from the Center to do that kind of dirty work. The Americans know that Tatiana is in the country and works at the Center. Putting her at risk puts everything they are planning at risk.

Plus, have we ever seen her doing any wet work? I only remember her being involved with spying on tech.

Had to be her. Otherwise, there was no reason to keep showing her in the "previously on" the past few weeks. The Centre is under the gun with the FBI getting onto their illegals, the Jennings are out, etc. I could see her as the desperate backup option.

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Had to be her. Otherwise, there was no reason to keep showing her in the "previously on" the past few weeks. The Centre is under the gun with US onto their illegals, the Jennings are out, etc. I could see her as the desperate backup option.

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I figured it was because the last time we saw her, she told her boss to tell the homeland that Oleg was a traitor...I keep waiting on him to find out his family has been arrested or something.

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lunchbox said:

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Don't think it was her.

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Really!? When the blonde wig fell off it looked like her with her hair back.

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I didn't think so...I also don't think they would send out an official (Tatiana...had to look it up) from the Center to do that kind of dirty work. The Americans know that Tatiana is in the country and works at the Center. Putting her at risk puts everything they are planning at risk.

Plus, have we ever seen her doing any wet work? I only remember her being involved with spying on tech.

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They could have been desperate. They undoubtedly have not told many Soviets in America about their anti-Gorby plot. The more you tell the more likely the plot gets outed. So it could have been that they didn't have any other illegals in the area that they could trust to do it. And they would tell her things about how she'd be on the fast track and whatnot if she pulled it off.

OK, I guess I am almost convinced now (the triangle of freckles next to her nose...) that it was the same person but it still doesn't make sense to me why she would be use to do that kind of work. It would be like having a US Deputy Ambassador go kill someone.

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lunchbox said:

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lunchbox said:

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Don't think it was her.

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Really!? When the blonde wig fell off it looked like her with her hair back.

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I didn't think so...I also don't think they would send out an official (Tatiana...had to look it up) from the Center to do that kind of dirty work. The Americans know that Tatiana is in the country and works at the Center. Putting her at risk puts everything they are planning at risk.

Plus, have we ever seen her doing any wet work? I only remember her being involved with spying on tech.

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They could have been desperate. They undoubtedly have not told many Soviets in America about their anti-Gorby plot. The more you tell the more likely the plot gets outed. So it could have been that they didn't have any other illegals in the area that they could trust to do it. And they would tell her things about how she'd be on the fast track and whatnot if she pulled it off.

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See my post above...I'm pretty much convinced now, but they could have used Claudia instead...or the skinny black guy that has tailed people before (not the guy from Chicago). There WERE other options.

What does everyone think the Jennings' escape plan is? They are now on the run from the FBI and the Center. Elizabeth got their Go Bag together quickly. She meets up with Phillip. They drive to get Paige, she comes easily. They drive to get Henry, he fights them and perhaps doesn't get in the car. They drive to Canada ASAP? Fly to Germany or Greece from there?

That's too realistic, for the sake of TV something has to bring them back to D.C. before they can flee the country. We need that Phillip/Stan confrontation. Maybe they figure out that their message never got to Moscow? Henry wasn't at school? They don't have fake passports for the kids?

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What does everyone think the Jennings' escape plan is? They are now on the run from the FBI and the Center. Elizabeth got their Go Bag together quickly. She meets up with Phillip. They drive to get Paige, she comes easily. They drive to get Henry, he fights them and perhaps doesn't get in the car. They drive to Canada ASAP? Fly to Germany or Greece from there?

That's too realistic, for the sake of TV something has to bring them back to D.C. before they can flee the country. We need that Phillip/Stan confrontation. Maybe they figure out that their message never got to Moscow? Henry wasn't at school? They don't have fake passports for the kids?

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Based off of Elizabeth's comment before that Henry was Philip's department....Philip goes to extract Henry and Elizabeth goes to find Paige. It is possible that the series ends without everyone making it to the rendezvous point. That phone call could be the last words P&E speak to each other.

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lunchbox said:

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Don't think it was her.

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Really!? When the blonde wig fell off it looked like her with her hair back.

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I didn't think so...I also don't think they would send out an official (Tatiana...had to look it up) from the Center to do that kind of dirty work. The Americans know that Tatiana is in the country and works at the Center. Putting her at risk puts everything they are planning at risk.

Plus, have we ever seen her doing any wet work? I only remember her being involved with spying on tech.

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They could have been desperate. They undoubtedly have not told many Soviets in America about their anti-Gorby plot. The more you tell the more likely the plot gets outed. So it could have been that they didn't have any other illegals in the area that they could trust to do it. And they would tell her things about how she'd be on the fast track and whatnot if she pulled it off.

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See my post above...I'm pretty much convinced now, but they could have used Claudia instead...or the skinny black guy that has tailed people before (not the guy from Chicago). There WERE other options.

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Claudia is a fat slob. You need somebody nimble. They got to get out of there quick.

I don't know the skinny black guy you speak of, but you can't just grab anybody. In real intel, you don't typically have people like the Jennings who do and are good at everything. You have specialists who do specific things. Some for surveillance, others planting bugs, others that tail people, etc. I would assume that would be the same thing for assassins (I'd think.. no knowledge of that).

FYI - at least one reviewer confirms that it was Tatiana...

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/americans-review-season-6-episode-9-jennings-elizabeth-spoilers-1201967967/

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It's worth noting a long-time member of the cast did face an untimely (and unexpected) demise this week: Tatiana Vyazemtseva (played by the excellent Vera Cherny) falls victim to Elizabeth's bullet as one agent betrayed her mission while the other followed it to her death. Tatiana was a complicated, oft-jilted, and uncompromising character, but frankly it's surprising she survived as long as she did. She pissed off quite a few people.

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http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/the-americans-recap-season-6-episode-9.html

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That assassin that Elizabeth shoots to protect Nesterenko is Tatiana, who was last seen threatening Oleg in the fifth episode. I had to watch the scene a couple of times to confirm, so ICYMI.

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Using Center #2 makes sense. They had no time to get someone else up to speed. The conference was happening now. Gorbie is out of the USSR now. Killing the negotiator had to happen NOW. And their best operator has gone rogue.

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Using Center #2 makes sense. They had no time to get someone else up to speed. The conference was happening now. Gorbie is out of the USSR now. Killing the negotiator had to happen NOW. And their best operator has gone rogue.

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Once she is identified, her death could end up being a distraction that moves the FBI's attention from P&E and onto the Center just briefly enough for them to get out of there.

Except Stan will be quick to note that she doesn't have gorgeous hair.

I was thinking the same thing. She would be the pretty woman that Stan is looking for and that is one of the reasons they gave us the closeup of her. Could be just enough distraction for an escape.

My only prediction for next week is Stan kills Philip. And frankly, I'll be disappointed if he doesn't.

There is no distracting. The FBI would get the whole bureau on this if they needed. Phillip will probably never go back to the house again. Once Elizabeth leaves, she won't either. They will likely get Paige, maybe blow off Henry, and haul ass.

Ol Jock 99 said:

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My only prediction for next week is Stan kills Philip. And frankly, I'll be disappointed if he doesn't.

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I can't see how that happens. As soon as Stan see's the pictures, there will be a manhunt. If they capture the Jennings, it probably wouldn't be Stan himself doing the capturing. The Jennings would be separated and each surrounded by so many people that there would be no realistic chance.